Why do the Vic Cybertools Cost So Much?

[Shambopyro]

Usually victorinox knives of the same tool layer count and size cost around the same price, whereas the cybertool line costs double or more than knives of the same tool layer count. Like the super tinker costs about $30, and a cybertool 29 costs about $60. What gives? Is a little bit driver that much more expensive to make?

[ICanFixThat]

I'm sure there are several factors, the bits are likely the biggest manufacturing cost difference since they come from a 3rd-party.

I will say though, I got a super deal on a Super Tinker once... now i'm in the poor house with a pile of SAKs...   of course a couple small Alox knives were partially responsible for me even looking at the ST in the first place.

[jrp316]

Because they're worth it.   

[Chako]

  

[Fattsgalore]

All the blades (tools) are hammered out of a sheet of steel. Which is the norm, but I don't believe this to be the case with the bit driver.

I'm not sure if it's even the same steel. Mine has oxidation and the oxidation on the blade and bit driver are't consistent. But then again I'm not really sure.

The bits alone will run you about $15 for a replacement set.

Higher manufacturing cost, multiple pieces, other factors which I probably don't know about... = more money.

[detron]

 

Chako,  looks like you are missing a bit

[NutSAK]

Usually victorinox knives of the same tool layer count and size cost around the same price, whereas the cybertool line costs double or more than knives of the same tool layer count. Like the super tinker costs about $30, and a cybertool 29 costs about $60.

While that is the case with the Super Tinker vs. the CT29, that is not the case when you compare the larger models.  A Swisschamp and a CT41 are not that far apart in price.

[Caranthanus]

 

Well, there's no doubt, this "is" the swiss army formation 

[kirk13]

 

Looks like an armoured column getting ready to invade!

[GigaHz]

This picture was before I started downsizing. I think the driver is handmade. I had 3 of them side by side on a brass rod in the open position and all 3 were open at different angles. I can't believe they were all bent. I thought they were stamped out, but now i don't know. Unless there is 3 different types? Like the 2 types of bit holders.

[colt 1911]

This picture was before I started downsizing. I think the driver is handmade. I had 3 of them side by side on a brass rod in the open position and all 3 were open at different angles. I can't believe they were all bent. I thought they were stamped out, but now i don't know. Unless there is 3 different types? Like the 2 types of bit holders.

Man I thought I was bad with two.


Swiss Army knives .

[sir_mike]

Wow that is or was a nice collection!   

This picture was before I started downsizing. I think the driver is handmade. I had 3 of them side by side on a brass rod in the open position and all 3 were open at different angles. I can't believe they were all bent. I thought they were stamped out, but now i don't know. Unless there is 3 different types? Like the 2 types of bit holders.

[tosh]

This picture was before I started downsizing. I think the driver is handmade. I had 3 of them side by side on a brass rod in the open position and all 3 were open at different angles. I can't believe they were all bent. I thought they were stamped out, but now i don't know. Unless there is 3 different types? Like the 2 types of bit holders.

WTF...

"You know you've got a multitool problem if........"

I don't really need to spell it out do I??

[microbe]

 Nice pic But at $60 a pop, that's a rather expensive collection!

[Reinier]

Awesome pic GigaHz!
I think they recently changed to a different kind of allow for the bit driver. It now has a more gray color.

[Marius]

Awesome

[kkokkolis]

 

Looks like an armoured column getting ready to invade!

That's artillery for sure. M110 Self Propelled 8" Howitzer battery, that's it.

[splico]

This picture was before I started downsizing. I think the driver is handmade. I had 3 of them side by side on a brass rod in the open position and all 3 were open at different angles. I can't believe they were all bent. I thought they were stamped out, but now i don't know. Unless there is 3 different types? Like the 2 types of bit holders.

Man I thought I was bad with two.


Swiss Army knives .

 

[enki_ck]

Awsome pic, GigaHz. And a few of those are mods too. It's a shame Vic doesn't offer more SAKs in differnt configurations with the bit driver. The 5th from the right, 2nd row from the top is my favorite. Your first mod right?

Awesome pic GigaHz!
I think they recently changed to a different kind of allow for the bit driver. It now has a more gray color.

Yeah, this summer I believe during the Dash4it shopping craze. GigaHz noticed it first. The newer is lighter in color.

[Huntsman]

Usually victorinox knives of the same tool layer count and size cost around the same price, whereas the cybertool line costs double or more than knives of the same tool layer count. Like the super tinker costs about $30, and a cybertool 29 costs about $60. What gives? Is a little bit driver that much more expensive to make?

Guys
I have nowhere near the experience of some of you - But one further thought on this....
I do remember reading that the smaller Vics are all assembled 100% automatically.
Obviously QA (and sharpening??) is by hand.

However the larger Vics (SwissChamp + bigger??) are hand assembled.
My guess is that the CTs with the bit holder etc have to be hand made.
Labour in Ibach is very (very) expensive
Also as mentioned above there is a different manufacturing process for the tool itself.
So ..... (More expensive parts) + (Way higher labour)  =  Much higher price??

Then when you add in the CT 'coolfactor' and 'Coz they're worth it' !! 

PS. @ Gigahz - That collection is nuts !!
It's bigger than my whole collection and I thought I 'had a multitool problem'.
Is that just your CTs? And do you have a pile of others too?
Not sure I even want to know the answer!!

[Reinier]

Yeah, this summer I believe during the Dash4it shopping craze. GigaHz noticed it first. The newer is lighter in color.

I thought I did (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=21658.msg798572#msg798572)
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I am, that's who!

[GigaHz]

Yeah, this summer I believe during the Dash4it shopping craze. GigaHz noticed it first. The newer is lighter in color.

I thought I did (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=21658.msg798572#msg798572)
But who's counting...
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I am, that's who!

Yup Reinier was first. I just took the pictures.

[Reinier]

Which means my Swiss Points count is once again above zero

[enki_ck]

Yeah, this summer I believe during the Dash4it shopping craze. GigaHz noticed it first. The newer is lighter in color.

I thought I did (http://forum.multitool.or...21658.msg798572#msg798572)
But who's counting...
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I am, that's who!

 


Sorry, my good sir, I hope you'll be able to forgive me at some point.

 

Well GigaHz posted the first pics in response to your question and I'm more of a visual guy, if that's a good enough excuse.  

I remember the pictures best.

[Reinier]

Well I'm always too lazy to take pics

[enki_ck]

Well I'm always too lazy to take pics

I think you posted quite a few if I can recognize them by the backdrop.

But yes, more pics is always better.

[Chako]

That is correct detron. I lost it myself...and could never find it in the grass.

[Luna Knife]

If it is still there at the flea market this weekend, I am planning on getting a Blue translucent Cybertool for $15.  It had a pen too

[Chako]

You left it there the first time?     

[ICanFixThat]

WOW!   I thought I was rather fond of Cybertools.