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ca Offline Chako

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Re: firearms
Reply #2010 on: December 29, 2015, 12:50:25 AM
I was taking a photo...which is difficult as I usually have 2 helpers around...and they are pros at photo bombing I tell ya.



See what I mean?

Anyways, I bought two boxes of this...



Which means I am close to the time of buying a more modern revolver. Not sure if the local gun shop is open tomorrow, but I will take a look and see what is available. Now I have a little added incentive.  :D
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Re: firearms
Reply #2011 on: December 29, 2015, 01:25:50 AM
Hang on, is that you buying ammo for a pistol you don't own yet?  Or maybe you do by now. :D
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Re: firearms
Reply #2012 on: December 29, 2015, 01:52:30 AM
Don't have yet...but should soon have.
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Re: firearms
Reply #2013 on: December 29, 2015, 02:08:12 AM
Quote from: Gareth on December 29, 2015, 01:25:50 AM
Hang on, is that you buying ammo for a pistol you don't own yet?  Or maybe you do by now. :D

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Re: firearms
Reply #2014 on: December 29, 2015, 02:47:21 AM
Chako is not so unusual in his pursuit. Whether you are a collector or an accumulator, fill in the blank if this applies to you.

Over the years I have purchased firearms just because ________ .

A) I had a box of ammo with nothing to shoot it out of
B) I had a holster for it
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F) it was a good price
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I) all of the above.

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Re: firearms
Reply #2015 on: December 29, 2015, 02:58:36 AM
I have a plan..not a problem.  :gimme:
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Re: firearms
Reply #2016 on: December 29, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 29, 2015, 02:58:36 AM
I have a plan..not a problem.  :gimme:

Dan,that's slightly more worrying!
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Re: firearms
Reply #2017 on: December 29, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: Alan K. on December 29, 2015, 02:47:21 AM
Chako is not so unusual in his pursuit. Whether you are a collector or an accumulator, fill in the blank if this applies to you.

Over the years I have purchased firearms just because ________ .

A) I had a box of ammo with nothing to shoot it out of
B) I had a holster for it
C) I had a sling for it
D) I had a scope for it
E) I had a bayonet, ammo pouch, or other military issue accessories for it
F) it was a good price
G) I needed it for a picture
H) ending the sentence at "just because" was enough, without filling in the blank.
I) all of the above.

In my own case the answer is definitely I) all of the above.

I use to answer I for sure but I am all better now. Have not bought a firearm in a long while.

Ammo and reloading stuff on the other hand.
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Reply #2018 on: December 29, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
I have one more to buy and then I am done. I hope lol.

Well that will have to wait till Saturday as the local gun shop has taken a vacation till then. Give me more time to research.  :D
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Re: firearms
Reply #2019 on: December 29, 2015, 08:32:49 PM
Got a semi-auto rifle in .22 lr home today for testing. Gonna go to the fire range on thursday morning.

The gun is a chechoslovakian Brno Zbrojovka; made in 1972. Each part is made of steel and no alu-press like on other guns. Nice and heavy rifle with a great looking walnut stock. This thing was owned by a hunter who died. He did not shoot that gun very much.

Looking forward on the ammo testing :D

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Reply #2020 on: December 29, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: Humppa on December 29, 2015, 08:32:49 PM
Got a semi-auto rifle in .22 lr home today for testing. Gonna go to the fire range on thursday morning.

The gun is a chechoslovakian Brno Zbrojovka; made in 1972. Each part is made of steel and no alu-press like on other guns. Nice and heavy rifle with a great looking walnut stock. This thing was owned by a hunter who died. He did not shoot that gun very much.

Looking forward on the ammo testing :D

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Re: firearms
Reply #2021 on: December 29, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 29, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
I have one more to buy and then I am done. I hope lol.

Well that will have to wait till Saturday as the local gun shop has taken a vacation till then. Give me more time to research.  :D

Smith and Wesson Model 19. So good.
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Reply #2022 on: December 29, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: kirk13 on December 29, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: Humppa on December 29, 2015, 08:32:49 PM
Got a semi-auto rifle in .22 lr home today for testing. Gonna go to the fire range on thursday morning.

The gun is a chechoslovakian Brno Zbrojovka; made in 1972. Each part is made of steel and no alu-press like on other guns. Nice and heavy rifle with a great looking walnut stock. This thing was owned by a hunter who died. He did not shoot that gun very much.

Looking forward on the ammo testing :D

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This.

Also Brnos are great rifles.

Want to sell it.  :pok:
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Reply #2023 on: December 29, 2015, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on December 29, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 29, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
I have one more to buy and then I am done. I hope lol.

Well that will have to wait till Saturday as the local gun shop has taken a vacation till then. Give me more time to research.  :D

Smith and Wesson Model 19. So good.

Smith & Wesson Model 686 - even better. Somewhat beefier frame, stainless.

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Reply #2024 on: December 30, 2015, 02:18:47 AM
I was going to say, I didn't get any guns this year, but I still have a couple of days. :whistle:

Then I remembered that I did make a straight up trade a few months ago.  Traded an old shotgun for an even older .22lr revolver.  If a new gun comes into your possession it still counts, even if no money changed hands. :facepalm:
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Re: firearms
Reply #2025 on: December 30, 2015, 03:23:08 AM
Quote from: ColoSwiss on December 29, 2015, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on December 29, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 29, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
I have one more to buy and then I am done. I hope lol.

Well that will have to wait till Saturday as the local gun shop has taken a vacation till then. Give me more time to research.  :D

Smith and Wesson Model 19. So good.

Smith & Wesson Model 686 - even better. Somewhat beefier frame, stainless.

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Beautiful blued over boring stainless all day everyday. Just takes a little more work to keep it nice.

Talk to me about that sweet CZ though.
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Reply #2026 on: December 30, 2015, 05:16:41 AM
The L-frame (like the 686) was developed  for the .357 after the K-frame Model 19s had problems with prolonged use. Don't think S&W make the 19 anymore.

The CZ is a Model 75 SP-01 Shadow target pistol, from CZ's custom shop. Bought used. The original trigger was so light I had a gunsmith 'heavy' it up a bit.

(That blemish low down is a figment of your imagination, or a flyer from another shooter, or…)
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Re: firearms
Reply #2027 on: December 30, 2015, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 29, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
I have one more to buy and then I am done. I hope lol.

Well that will have to wait till Saturday as the local gun shop has taken a vacation till then. Give me more time to research.  :D

The S&W Model 66 has always caught me eye.

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Reply #2028 on: December 30, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
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The L-frame (like the 686) was developed  for the .357 after the K-frame Model 19s had problems with prolonged use. Don't think S&W make the 19 anymore.

The CZ is a Model 75 SP-01 Shadow target pistol, from CZ's custom shop. Bought used. The original trigger was so light I had a gunsmith 'heavy' it up a bit.

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I know the Model 19 dwell. Bought one new in the early 90s. They do not make the 19 anymore which makes me a sad panda.

Light trigger on the Shadow huh? Probably best you just sell it to me cheap. I have a CZ P07 which I love.
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Reply #2029 on: December 30, 2015, 07:40:49 PM
I had a M19 4" years ago aand sold it. It was of the guns I wished i still had it was a sweet piece.
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Reply #2030 on: December 31, 2015, 04:17:50 PM
Well so far, the research is proving interesting.

From what I can tell from the general online drift...

1. Smith & Wesson are pricier, but benefit from excellent fit and wonderful triggers.
2. Ruger is built like a tank, but fit and finish is lower, and the trigger not as good as the S&W.
3. Taurus comes a distinct third. Half appear to like them, the other half hate them due to poor fit and finish. Quite a few folks talking about their wheel guns jamming after some use due to poor workmanship. On the other hand, plenty of folks have found theirs dependable.

A little about what I want from a revolver.

1. I plan on using it for IPSC competitions. For this, I will need to buy a holster, multiple speed loaders, etc.
2. I have read that moonclips are great for shooting rimless ammunition. They have the added benefit of leaving your ammo attached together on the field of fire for easy pickup later...provided they are not stepped on of course. With that said, speed loaders are bulkier but are used for more traditional revolver ammunition. I have never used either.
3. I would be looking for something with a longer barrel. In Canada, to make it legal, the gun must have a 4 1/4" long barrel. Anything shorter and it is moved to the prohib section, meaning no can do. I am looking for something with a 5 or 6" barrel to give me a longer aiming plane. Whatever I do get, it should be easy to remove from a holster.

Here are the local gun shop prices as taken online.

Ruger GP-100 Revolver .357 Dbl Action   779.99
Ruger GP-141 357 Magnum 4.2' Blued         599.99
Ruger GP100 Double Action Revolver 357 Mag 4.2' Barrel 6 Round       899.99
Ruger GP100 Revolver .357 Mag 6' Blued Double Action Hogue Monogrip     749.99
Ruger GP100 Revolver 357mag Blued Double Action   769.99
Ruger GP100 Stainless Double Action Revolver Hogue Grip KGP-141   829.99
Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk 44 Mag 7.5' Limited Edition S47N-50 0815   959.99
Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk S458N 44mag 4-5/8' 0813   689.99
S&W 500 Revolver .500S&W 8.37' 5 Shot   1,399.99
S&W 586 Combat Mag 357 6' Barrel 6rds   949.99
S&W 629 Classic 44 Mag 5'      1,049.99
S&W 629-6 Compensated Hunter Custom 71/2' 44Mag 170181   1,409.99
S&W 686 357 Mag 4.25' BR 164107   899.99
S&W 686 357Mag/38Special 7' Stainless Laminate   929.99
S&W 686 Plus Dist Combat Mag .357 6'Barrel   999.99
Smith & Wesson 629 .44 Mag 107mm    1,029.99
Taurus 608 .357Mag. 6.5' 8 Rnds Adj. Sight        749.99
Taurus 627 Tracker .357Mag. 6.5' 2-627069 used       599.99
Taurus 627 Tracker Revolver 357 Mag 7 Round   699.99

Looks like the prices are fairly similar between all 3 manufacturers. So here is my question...in your opinion, which do you think is the best way to go? I was edging towards a Taurus 608 simply because it holds 8 rounds...but then I noticed a lot of negative talk about Taurus...and not sure if speed loaders might be an issue with an 8 round revolver. I was going to stay clear of S&W...but noticed they are only a hundred bucks or less from other models...at least what is sold at the local gun shop. I thought there would be more of a price difference between the S&W and Ruger...but that doesn't appear to be the case overly much. :think:
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Reply #2031 on: December 31, 2015, 05:31:11 PM
While pondering revolvers...I installed a set of two cabinet LED lights that are powered by several AA batteries. The nice thing about these, they automatically power on and off via a motion detector feature. That solved a problem of having to bring a flashlight with me every time I wanted some ammunition. I am very happy with the results.



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Reply #2032 on: December 31, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Chako on December 31, 2015, 04:17:50 PM
Well so far, the research is proving interesting.

From what I can tell from the general online drift...

1. Smith & Wesson are pricier, but benefit from excellent fit and wonderful triggers.
2. Ruger is built like a tank, but fit and finish is lower, and the trigger not as good as the S&W.
3. Taurus comes a distinct third. Half appear to like them, the other half hate them due to poor fit and finish. Quite a few folks talking about their wheel guns jamming after some use due to poor workmanship. On the other hand, plenty of folks have found theirs dependable.

A little about what I want from a revolver.

1. I plan on using it for IPSC competitions. For this, I will need to buy a holster, multiple speed loaders, etc.
2. I have read that moonclips are great for shooting rimless ammunition. They have the added benefit of leaving your ammo attached together on the field of fire for easy pickup later...provided they are not stepped on of course. With that said, speed loaders are bulkier but are used for more traditional revolver ammunition. I have never used either.
3. I would be looking for something with a longer barrel. In Canada, to make it legal, the gun must have a 4 1/4" long barrel. Anything shorter and it is moved to the prohib section, meaning no can do. I am looking for something with a 5 or 6" barrel to give me a longer aiming plane. Whatever I do get, it should be easy to remove from a holster.

Here are the local gun shop prices as taken online.

Ruger GP-100 Revolver .357 Dbl Action   779.99
Ruger GP-141 357 Magnum 4.2' Blued         599.99
Ruger GP100 Double Action Revolver 357 Mag 4.2' Barrel 6 Round       899.99
Ruger GP100 Revolver .357 Mag 6' Blued Double Action Hogue Monogrip     749.99
Ruger GP100 Revolver 357mag Blued Double Action   769.99
Ruger GP100 Stainless Double Action Revolver Hogue Grip KGP-141   829.99
Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk 44 Mag 7.5' Limited Edition S47N-50 0815   959.99
Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk S458N 44mag 4-5/8' 0813   689.99
S&W 500 Revolver .500S&W 8.37' 5 Shot   1,399.99
S&W 586 Combat Mag 357 6' Barrel 6rds   949.99
S&W 629 Classic 44 Mag 5'      1,049.99
S&W 629-6 Compensated Hunter Custom 71/2' 44Mag 170181   1,409.99
S&W 686 357 Mag 4.25' BR 164107   899.99
S&W 686 357Mag/38Special 7' Stainless Laminate   929.99
S&W 686 Plus Dist Combat Mag .357 6'Barrel   999.99
Smith & Wesson 629 .44 Mag 107mm    1,029.99
Taurus 608 .357Mag. 6.5' 8 Rnds Adj. Sight        749.99
Taurus 627 Tracker .357Mag. 6.5' 2-627069 used       599.99
Taurus 627 Tracker Revolver 357 Mag 7 Round   699.99

Looks like the prices are fairly similar between all 3 manufacturers. So here is my question...in your opinion, which do you think is the best way to go? I was edging towards a Taurus 608 simply because it holds 8 rounds...but then I noticed a lot of negative talk about Taurus...and not sure if speed loaders might be an issue with an 8 round revolver. I was going to stay clear of S&W...but noticed they are only a hundred bucks or less from other models...at least what is sold at the local gun shop. I thought there would be more of a price difference between the S&W and Ruger...but that doesn't appear to be the case overly much. :think:

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.
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Reply #2033 on: December 31, 2015, 06:02:06 PM
Thanks for the good info. The issue is that I will not be competing in a revolver only class in as much as the local gun club that I belong to are all into semi autos. So they design the course with 9 mm ten round mags mostly. I have noted that my 45 with 8 round mags was ok with an extra mag change thrown in there.

With that said, I noted only 2 others guys shooting 45 ACP, all others doing the 9 mm route. Noted nobody shooting revolvers. I asked last night while I was at the gun club and the older guys said they all shot with revolvers years ago but nobody does that anymore. I like to be different I guess.
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Reply #2034 on: January 01, 2016, 03:22:57 AM
No personal experience with Taurus. Their reputation is iffy.

The .500 and .44 are primarily hunting cartridges.

So a S&W or Ruger in .357 (will also handle .38 Special), with a 4 1/2" to 6"  barrel, and adjustable sights. I prefer the 6" for the longer sight radius and the added weight to dampen recoil. A shorter barrel will clear a holster faster. The S&W will probably have a better trigger. The Ruger can be field striped like an auto pistol for cleaning. Handle a variety of each and see which feels better in your hand.

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Reply #2035 on: January 01, 2016, 03:58:30 AM
I am thinking more along the lines of Ruger at the moment. I threw those other calibers in for price comparison. I am looking for a 357/38 special handgun.
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Reply #2036 on: January 01, 2016, 04:34:56 AM
My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   :D



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This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.



I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     :D
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Reply #2037 on: January 01, 2016, 04:39:26 AM
I've owned an S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum for many years.  Such a beautiful piece.......
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D
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Reply #2038 on: January 01, 2016, 05:49:22 AM
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I've owned an S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum for many years.  Such a beautiful piece.......

Mine was stolen many years ago. Someday I plan to have another.

As to barrel length Chako I am of the mind 4 inches balances well but is not to heavy. Recoil with .38 out of say a GP 100 is next to nothing so there is no need for more recoil dampening weight.

158 grain wadcutters out of a .38 will be subsonic and Super quiet out of a suppressor. Just saying.
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Reply #2039 on: January 01, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
A new year requires some silliness.



Yep, that Fat Man Nuke looks good there for some reason.  :rofl:
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