firearms

[jerseydevil]

A new year requires some silliness.



Yep, that Fat Man Nuke looks good there for some reason. 

the Canadians have nukes!

[shark_za]

Seeing as we are talking Model 19s here is one of mine.

Who can say what is different about it?




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[captain spaulding]

No rear sight or its notched into the frame.

[shark_za]

Yeah; model 19-P made for the Peruvian police with fixed sights.
I also have a normal 4 inch one and a 2.5 inch.


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[Chako]

The more I see of these SA/DA revolvers, the more I want one for my collection. That is a beautiful model 19 you have there.

[SAK Guy]

A new year requires some silliness.



Yep, that Fat Man Nuke looks good there for some reason. 

the Canadians have nukes!

 

[David]

Mystery solved. Now we know where the missing tactical nukes went to at the fall of the Soviet Union. Chakos ammo cabinet.          

[SAK Guy]

Mystery solved. Now we know where the missing tactical nukes went to at the fall of the Soviet Union. Chakos ammo cabinet.          

 

[Chako]

 

Well at least my Fallout 4 compendium is very safe locked up in there. 

[Gareth]

I've owned an S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum for many years.  Such a beautiful piece.......

Mine was stolen many years ago. Someday I plan to have another.

As to barrel length Chako I am of the mind 4 inches balances well but is not to heavy. Recoil with .38 out of say a GP 100 is next to nothing so there is no need for more recoil dampening weight.

158 grain wadcutters out of a .38 will be subsonic and Super quiet out of a suppressor. Just saying.

I  know I've talking from the wrong side of the pond, but do you chaps know S&W have re-released the model 66? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_827561_-1_757751_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

4 1/4" barrel would suit Dan as well.

[Alan K.]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

[Chako]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

[ColoSwiss]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

You know you're going to get them both!   

[HarleyXJGuy]

Yeah; model 19-P made for the Peruvian police with fixed sights.
I also have a normal 4 inch one and a 2.5 inch.


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How much are you asking for the 2.5 inch one?

[HarleyXJGuy]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

You know you're going to get them both!   

Always the correct MTO answer.

[David]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

You know you're going to get them both!   

Yes, but the big question is which one first? Maybe we should have a poll?     

[HarleyXJGuy]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

You know you're going to get them both!   

Yes, but the big question is which one first? Maybe we should have a poll?     

Pfft Chako is making mad coin he can afford to buy them both at the same time.

[David]

Just found this out...a Ruger Redhawk that will take moonclips to shoot 45 ACP, and will also shoot 45 Colt.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/10/22/review-ruger-redhawk-45-acp45-colt-revolver/

So many options...not sure which way I want to go now. I do have 2 boxes of 357 magnum, but on the other hand, I have many boxes of 45 ACP and Colt for my 1911A1 and Single Action Army. 

You know you're going to get them both!   

Yes, but the big question is which one first? Maybe we should have a poll?     

Pfft Chako is making mad coin he can afford to buy them both at the same time.

      

[Aloha]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  . 

[BASguy]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  .

I own several .357's of different flavors with multiple versions of Ruger and S&W.  My most used however, is a model 65 Taurus.  I've put literally thousands of rounds through this wheel gun and it's been flawless.  I think most of the negative commentary toward Taurus comes as 2nd hand.  Every manufacturer is going to have issues of some sort, but anyone who thinks these aren't good reliable hand guns simply doesn't know what they are talking about.


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[HarleyXJGuy]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  .

I own several .357's of different flavors with multiple versions of Ruger and S&W.  My most used however, is a model 65 Taurus.  I've put literally thousands of rounds through this wheel gun and it's been flawless.  I think most of the negative commentary toward Taurus comes as 2nd hand.  Every manufacturer is going to have issues of some sort, but anyone who thinks these aren't good reliable hand guns simply doesn't know what they are talking about.


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I agree Taurus is not complete junk for the most part and most of the bashing is proably second hand.

That said I have had nothing but problems with a .22 Magnum revolver I got for my wife and many years ago a close friend had issues with one of the Taurus Model 92 9mms. Granted at some point I heard they got the PT 92 sorted out.

Still there is no way to convince me any revolver is on the same level as say a GP 100 or Super Redhawk when it comes to reliability and sheer Fort Knox build strength.

[BASguy]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  .

I own several .357's of different flavors with multiple versions of Ruger and S&W.  My most used however, is a model 65 Taurus.  I've put literally thousands of rounds through this wheel gun and it's been flawless.  I think most of the negative commentary toward Taurus comes as 2nd hand.  Every manufacturer is going to have issues of some sort, but anyone who thinks these aren't good reliable hand guns simply doesn't know what they are talking about.


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I agree Taurus is not complete junk for the most part and most of the bashing is proably second hand.

That said I have had nothing but problems with a .22 Magnum revolver I got for my wife and many years ago a close friend had issues with one of the Taurus Model 92 9mms. Granted at some point I heard they got the PT 92 sorted out.

Still there is no way to convince me any revolver is on the same level as say a GP 100 or Super Redhawk when it comes to reliability and sheer Fort Knox build strength.

I wouldn't know how to convince anyone, but I own a GP100 and can attest to the fact it has absolutely nothing on the 65 as far as I'm concerned. 
I don't own a Taurus semi.....I only have a couple of semi's in the stable as I just don't care for them.  I'm a wheel gun guy, so they just don't interest me.  As such I can't comment on their quality.


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[HarleyXJGuy]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  .

I own several .357's of different flavors with multiple versions of Ruger and S&W.  My most used however, is a model 65 Taurus.  I've put literally thousands of rounds through this wheel gun and it's been flawless.  I think most of the negative commentary toward Taurus comes as 2nd hand.  Every manufacturer is going to have issues of some sort, but anyone who thinks these aren't good reliable hand guns simply doesn't know what they are talking about.


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I agree Taurus is not complete junk for the most part and most of the bashing is proably second hand.

That said I have had nothing but problems with a .22 Magnum revolver I got for my wife and many years ago a close friend had issues with one of the Taurus Model 92 9mms. Granted at some point I heard they got the PT 92 sorted out.

Still there is no way to convince me any revolver is on the same level as say a GP 100 or Super Redhawk when it comes to reliability and sheer Fort Knox build strength.

I wouldn't know how to convince anyone, but I own a GP100 and can attest to the fact it has absolutely nothing on the 65 as far as I'm concerned. 
I don't own a Taurus semi.....I only have a couple of semi's in the stable as I just don't care for them.  I'm a wheel gun guy, so they just don't interest me.  As such I can't comment on their quality.


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Yeah convincing people on the internet is a waste of time. Don't you know everyone on the internet knows everything?

Glad that 65 is working out for you.

[BASguy]

My favorite .357 at the moment is a S&W M28. A friend of mine is a big Ruger .357 buckaroo. I get to shot them and can attest to the fact they are good solid wheel guns.   

This is a subject near to my heart as I grew up with a father who would mot use any pistol that did not have a cylinder and I love me some IPSC and IDPA.

Just say no to the Taurus. While they are not as bad as some people make them out to be they just dont stand up.to action pistol round counts. Better for occasional plinking if you get a nice price break maybe.

Most stages for revolver will be set up around 6 round strings with a mandatory reload anyway.

Moonclips will cut your reload time in half or more once you get good with them. They have the added bonus of being nowhere near as practice intensive as speed loaders are. There are a number of good gunsmiths who can cut any revolver for moon clips for you regardless of the caliber. So no need to.run 9mm or .45 ACP.

Ruger is indeed built like Fort Knox but there fit and finish is also top notch. I am of the opinion that most of the fit and finish bashing comes from the Smith and Wesson folks.

I'd say you hit the nail square on the head there Mr Harley.     

Agreed! There's nothing like shooting the N-frame .357 magnums.  Picture of me from 2004..

I don't know much about guns but damn that looks like a handful you got there.  Awesome pic too  .

I own several .357's of different flavors with multiple versions of Ruger and S&W.  My most used however, is a model 65 Taurus.  I've put literally thousands of rounds through this wheel gun and it's been flawless.  I think most of the negative commentary toward Taurus comes as 2nd hand.  Every manufacturer is going to have issues of some sort, but anyone who thinks these aren't good reliable hand guns simply doesn't know what they are talking about.


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

I agree Taurus is not complete junk for the most part and most of the bashing is proably second hand.

That said I have had nothing but problems with a .22 Magnum revolver I got for my wife and many years ago a close friend had issues with one of the Taurus Model 92 9mms. Granted at some point I heard they got the PT 92 sorted out.

Still there is no way to convince me any revolver is on the same level as say a GP 100 or Super Redhawk when it comes to reliability and sheer Fort Knox build strength.

I wouldn't know how to convince anyone, but I own a GP100 and can attest to the fact it has absolutely nothing on the 65 as far as I'm concerned. 
I don't own a Taurus semi.....I only have a couple of semi's in the stable as I just don't care for them.  I'm a wheel gun guy, so they just don't interest me.  As such I can't comment on their quality.


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Yeah convincing people on the internet is a waste of time. Don't you know everyone on the internet knows everything?

Glad that 65 is working out for you.

Thanks, agreed.  At least you can get a chuckle out of people talking out their backside.


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[Chako]

Well I just bought one. A used S&W 586 Silhouette with 6" barrel. I can't show you photos as the gun shop will have it in its possession until they can get the proper paperwork to hand it over.

I spent a while hand holding and dry firing everything they had in terms of revolvers in 357 magnum caliber. From what I could see Taurus was definitely the cheaper product in terms of trigger feel and general feel...but that didn't bother me much as the prices were cheaper for them overall. The 357 Tracker that I tried had a terrible trigger though. They had a used and a new copy, and both exhibited a very long DA trigger which was harder then anything else I tried today. I didn't like the rubber ribbed short grip found on this model...so It was a quick discard from the list.

I then tried a used S&W 586 that they just got in. Funny that. I have been looking at their guns for a year and a half now, and that is the first used S&W revolver I have ever seen them have. There was a nice 357 Magnum Dan Wesson that I missed a few months ago. I asked one of the owners, and she told me it was a rarity for one to come up used at their shop. Anyhow, I tried it and the trigger was very nice in both SA/DA.

I then asked them about those Rugers. Apparently that list I posted off of their website was not updated much. They only had the one Ruger GP100 with a 4" barrel. It felt very nice and the trigger was a lot better than the Taurus Trackers that I had tried. However, it was only in a 4" barrel. I was looking for something with a 6" barrel. I did go back to the Ruger twice more to compare it with the others. It was most definitely a nice firearm.

They had a few other S&W wheelguns, and they all felt superb in trigger action and fit of hand. They had a 686 plus with nice wooden grips, but they wanted 1000 bucks for it. This gun did feature 7 rounds, but when I asked for speed loaders, they didn't have any in stock. Ok...a little more than I wanted to pay...fair enough.

Next up was a Taurus 608. This is an 8 shot revolver. I liked the feel of this grip wise, and the extra 2 shots was sweet. In fact, I liked the look of that overly largish cylinder. However, when I asked if they sold speed loaders for this, they had a hard time finding anything. Eventually after much digging, they found only one company, and they didn't deal with them at all. They could get them in, but the price would be a little higher and who knows when that might come in at that. Hmmm....

I kept going back to that used 586. When it came down to it, it was between the Taurus 608 and that S&W 586. What pushed me towards the 586 were several things. That 586 had the best trigger feel of anything I tried today, including the other S&W revolvers. The shop did tell me there was a trigger job done on the gun. I believe it as it was smooth as butter. The DA trigger was just awesome. Prior to trying other revolvers, I didn't know what that meant. Now I know. The Taurus 608's trigger wasn't that bad either, but it wasn't on par with the Ruger. The S&Ws beat that Ruger just a little. This used S&W was in a different league altogether.

Also, the availability of speed loaders was an issue in my region for the Taurus 608. I really wanted that Taurus due to the extra 2 shots. However, they had plenty of used speed loaders that will fit the 586...and that sold me. In fact, I got such a good deal on the speed loaders, I gather not many are shooting revolvers in my area.

The owner came down with a used box and told me I could have everything in it for 100 bucks...case/lid and all included in the photo...sold.


Now all I need are 3 speed loader belt carriers, and a holster. Also bought two boxes of 38 special ammo to get started.

Hand holding revolvers really is the only way to decide. I have read a ton of stuff online, but nothing prepares you to decide until you actually hand hold them. I found the S&W revolvers did in fact have a slightly better trigger feel to them from the factory. The Ruger isn't far behind based on the single copy I was able to look at. Taurus was all over the map. The Taurus Trackers sucked if you compared them to anything else. The Taurus 608 was better as was another Taurus they had. Both didn't compare to the other two however. So some of the stuff I read online was indeed truthful based on what I saw at the gun shop. Much of it is also hot air I am sure.

Either way, I can't wait to get this in my paws and take some photos. This one comes with an odd 4 position adjustable front sight as well as an adjustable rear sight.

[ColoSwiss]

Sounds like you got a very nice piece.   

[Chako]

Now is the hardest part...waiting.

[s1xty7]

I didn't even know there was a firearms thread around until SAK Guy pointed it out.



This was taken for the Swiss Army Knife with other toys thread but here is my as yet unfired AR-15 and brand new from this weekend Ruger SP-101 in 22lr.  This is my first revolver and I considered 38 special/357 but I already have a few 9mm semis for that kind of use (Springfield XDm and Kel-Tec P-11).  I wanted a revolver the kids could shoot too when they get a little older and it will go well with my 10/22 Takedown.  Probably going to do some trigger work to lighten it and shim the hammer and trigger to smooth it a little.

As for the AR-15, it's an Anderson Manufacturing lower with a variety of parts (STAG LPK, JP springs, adjustable trigger stop, BCM tube and buffer, etc). The upper is from Ironworks Tactical based off on a 16" 1:8 melonited AR15Performance .223 wylde barrel (Scout profile) with NiB bolt and carrier, Troy Alpha rail (soon to be cerakoted MagPul foliage green), and AXTS Raptor charging handle.  I'll top that with a Primary Arms 1-6x scope and Magpul Pro BUIS.  This was the first AR I've built and I'm hoping to get some decent accuracy at distance with it.

Ever since having kids, it's been hard to find as much time to go shooting as before.  That seems to hold true for all my hobbies though.

[SAK Guy]

Awesome AR (and Ruger) too!!!

I have a S&W kit gun that similar to your Ruger but it's in 22 mag

[s1xty7]

I have a S&W kit gun that similar to your Ruger but it's in 22 mag

Thanks for the compliments!

The S&W revolvers are nice.  I almost picked up the 617 for 22lr, but at nearly $250 more than I got the Ruger for and the extra weight and size, I thought the Ruger would be a better fit for everyone who will be shooting it and save a sizable amount too.

What model is that kit gun?  Based on some quick searching, it looks like a 650.  She's a beauty!