firearms

[HarleyXJGuy]

NOOOO!!!! NOT THE BEER!!!!
 


When the watermelon appeared, was I the only one going: "Megan?!..."

Don't worry mate, it's American "light", not really beer at all.

Oh, just like spanish beer...

You know why it is like making love in a canoe?...

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'cause its smurfing close to water...

 

Lol.

[Outback in Idaho]

OATH AMMO 12 GAUGE TANGO SHOTGUN ROUND TSR ~     

[captain spaulding]

Ouch!

[HarleyXJGuy]

That would leave a mark.

[raistlin65]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

[Aloha]

I don't own a single gun yet I love his channel and iraqveteran8888. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

"I don't own a single gun..."

Oh the humanity!

[Aloha]

"I don't own a single gun..."

Oh the humanity!

I do live in California and refuse to be told what, how many, and so on. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

"I don't own a single gun..."

Oh the humanity!

I do live in California and refuse to be told what, how many, and so on.

You should move.

[Aloha]

"I don't own a single gun..."

Oh the humanity!

I do live in California and refuse to be told what, how many, and so on.

You should move.

Plans are in place  .

[HarleyXJGuy]

"I don't own a single gun..."

Oh the humanity!

I do live in California and refuse to be told what, how many, and so on.

You should move.

Plans are in place  .

Me also. I am moving home to Michigan now that I am retired.

If you come by that way let me know and we can do some shooting. I might have one or two guns around here somewhere.

[ColoSwiss]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

I just test fired a Walther PPQ 9mm at a range. Accurate but uncomfortable to hold, unpleasant to shoot, and had several other issues. Good luck with yours.

[Aloha]

 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

I just test fired a Walther PPQ 9mm at a range. Accurate but uncomfortable to hold, unpleasant to shoot, and had several other issues. Good luck with yours.

Also not a fan of the PPQ ergos.

I would suggest giving a CZ P 07 or the like a test before buying something. Excellent firearms in every respect imo.

[ColoSwiss]

Also shot a Sig-Sauer 320 the same afternoon. The exact opposite of the Walther. Comfortable in the hand, pleasant to shoot, reliable; but one of the most inaccurate pistols I've shoot in years. I may have to give the CZ P-07 a second try.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Also shot a Sig-Sauer 320 the same afternoon. The exact opposite of the Walther. Comfortable in the hand, pleasant to shoot, reliable; but one of the most inaccurate pistols I've shoot in years. I may have to give the CZ P-07 a second try.

Wish you lived closer to me. I would let you try my Cajun Gun Works modded P 07 although I am afraid it would ruin you for other pistols.

[ColoSwiss]

Also shot a Sig-Sauer 320 the same afternoon. The exact opposite of the Walther. Comfortable in the hand, pleasant to shoot, reliable; but one of the most inaccurate pistols I've shoot in years. I may have to give the CZ P-07 a second try.

Wish you lived closer to me. I would let you try my Cajun Gun Works modded P 07 although I am afraid it would ruin you for other pistols.

Shot a P-07 at a range up in Ft Collins a couple of times. Dead on. So bought one. It shot low and left, and substantially larger groups. Irritating.

Your P-07 may equal my CZ 75 Shadow and HK USP, but I doubt it would surpass them.

[raistlin65]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

I just test fired a Walther PPQ 9mm at a range. Accurate but uncomfortable to hold, unpleasant to shoot, and had several other issues. Good luck with yours.

I don't think I'll have a problem as I've had a chance to dry fire the 45. Felt great in the hand and loved the trigger feel.

Also, the PPQ 45 has a bit longer grip than the 9mm. Might be it would suit you better, too.

[SAK Guy]

Wow, first I've heard of these available commercially.

[Gareth]

Interesting that they've gone back to/stuck with a relatively low capacity pistol.  The Walther PPQ 45 in the above video holds 12 (if my ears counted right).  I understand that there are, of course, other factors that come into play, but you'd have thought one or two more rounds might have been nice.

[SAK Guy]

Interesting that they've gone back to/stuck with a relatively low capacity pistol.  The Walther PPQ 45 in the above video holds 12 (if my ears counted right).  I understand that there are, of course, other factors that come into play, but you'd have thought one or two more rounds might have been nice.

Besides it being a traditional design, it's role as a secondary weapon might explain it's 8 round capacity,  Marines are rifleman first. If a sidearm has a primary weapon role, in law enforcement for an example, one can see the desire for larger capacity pistols. I used to have a buddy in the DEA and for his 92 Beretta, he carried 2 extra 15 rd mags and an extra 20 rounder for when things really got hairy. That's 66 rounds. 
Additionally, a single stack design helps keep an already heavy pistol's weight to a minimum. Something to consider if you carry one every day, all day long.

Another thing about it being single stack is the the grip remains relatively thin and oddly, the USMC was supplied with 2- extra 7rd mags.....nearly everyone uses 8 rounders. 1911 designs are easy to shoot well, they point naturally and are heavy enough to tame the sharp recoil but maybe I'm biased by my 41 year history with them.   

[SAK Guy]

Discovered that in a pinch, the big Vic 130mm Yachtsman sheath also make great 1911 double mag pouch.



And reaffirming my curmudgeon status....notice that those 8 rounders are only loaded with 7 rds.   

[jerseydevil]

Discovered that in a pinch, the big Vic 130mm Yachtsman sheath also make great 1911 double mag pouch.

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And reaffirming my curmudgeon status....notice that those 8 rounders are only loaded with 7 rds.   

Traditionally the 7-round mags are actually eight round ones. The pistol is loaded with an eight-round clip, and the pistol charged. That makes it 7+1.  The 1911 wasn't traditionally carried by troops with one in the chamber......

[raistlin65]

Interesting that they've gone back to/stuck with a relatively low capacity pistol.  The Walther PPQ 45 in the above video holds 12 (if my ears counted right).  I understand that there are, of course, other factors that come into play, but you'd have thought one or two more rounds might have been nice.

Besides it being a traditional design, it's role as a secondary weapon might explain it's 8 round capacity,  Marines are rifleman first. If a sidearm has a primary weapon role, in law enforcement for an example, one can see the desire for larger capacity pistols. I used to have a buddy in the DEA and for his 92 Beretta, he carried 2 extra 15 rd mags and an extra 20 rounder for when things really got hairy. That's 66 rounds. 
Additionally, a single stack design helps keep an already heavy pistol's weight to a minimum. Something to consider if you carry one every day, all day long.

Another thing about it being single stack is the the grip remains relatively thin and oddly, the USMC was supplied with 2- extra 7rd mags.....nearly everyone uses 8 rounders. 1911 designs are easy to shoot well, they point naturally and are heavy enough to tame the sharp recoil but maybe I'm biased by my 41 year history with them.   

+1

I think you are right on with all of your observations, but I bet this is probably the main one. Going with more rounds would suggest a double stack magazine design which moves a good bit away from the classic 1911 feel, IMO. Look at the 1911 market, and it's obvious that there are all kinds of popular upgrades (sights, grips, triggers, different slide serrations, etc.) over the original govt 1911 design that sell,  but double stack higher capacity doesn't seem to be a popular one given how few models are out there.

[SAK Guy]

Discovered that in a pinch, the big Vic 130mm Yachtsman sheath also make great 1911 double mag pouch.

(Image removed from quote.)

And reaffirming my curmudgeon status....notice that those 8 rounders are only loaded with 7 rds.   

Traditionally the 7-round mags are actually eight round ones. The pistol is loaded with an eight-round clip, and the pistol charged. That makes it 7+1.  The 1911 wasn't traditionally carried by troops with one in the chamber......

All the orig Colt mags are 7 rounders, the 8 rounder is something from the last 15-20 years.

See the difference from an orig 80's Colt and a post 2000 Kimber?

One less hole in the Colt and It only holds 7 rds.

edit: Double checked the 8 rounder date, 1986 (30 years ago). Chip McCormick Shooting Stars which is my mag of choice these days. That Kimber in the pic is made by Chip McCormick as well.

[jerseydevil]

Huh, my bad. I thought the Colt was always issued with an 8-round clip. Thanks for the correction!

[captain spaulding]

Huh, my bad. I thought the Colt was always issued with an 8-round clip. Thanks for the correction!

Its a magazine not a clip. 

Never thought I would see the day I had to  you for this. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Huh, my bad. I thought the Colt was always issued with an 8-round clip. Thanks for the correction!

Its a magazine not a clip. 

Never thought I would see the day I had to  you for this. 

Me either. It is a sad day.

[jerseydevil]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

[HarleyXJGuy]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.