Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?

[Kampfer]

Because he has youtube channel, the place where most people look first before buying something

[derekmac]

Because he has youtube channel, the place where most people look first before buying something

That is very true.

Megan, fix that!!!     

[Gareth]

I'm glade to see that it seemed to be an honest review though, not just a Leatherman PR job. 

I'd be disappointed if those are the plastics we see on the final product, they really do look to be cheap and nasty.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Because he has youtube channel, the place where most people look first before buying something

That is very true.

Megan, fix that!!!     

We actually do have a Youtube Channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmt03RC_rBR7tmz3eJVUPIQ

It is on the list of things to fix up, and I am certain you will be seeing a lot more there in the future. 

Def

[sawman]

A lot of little innovations on the Signal that I am excited about. I have to say, though, I am a little concerned with the plastics pieces after watching that video. I believe that plastics are very versatile, but just judging from appearance in the video, it looks like very cheap plastic on the whistle and sharpener. I don't see a reason that the whistle couldn't be made of stainless steel - it would probably help with loudness even. I think the abrasive side of the sharpener needs to be covered in some way, as he mentioned in the video.

Finally, why does this guy get to review it and not us? This is MULTITOOL.ORG, the #1 source for multitool reviews, information, and discussion on the web - and they send their latest offering to this guy. Really, Leatherman? Really?

Well said ALL very good points

[Etherealicer]

Finally, why does this guy get to review it and not us? This is MULTITOOL.ORG, the #1 source for multitool reviews, information, and discussion on the web - and they send their latest offering to this guy. Really, Leatherman? Really?

Well, they wanted a positive review and the Signal got a lot of heat here. Beside, just going off the name "Urban Prepper", this sounds like the exact target audience.

[Aloha]

Finally, why does this guy get to review it and not us? This is MULTITOOL.ORG, the #1 source for multitool reviews, information, and discussion on the web - and they send their latest offering to this guy. Really, Leatherman? Really?

Well, they wanted a positive review and the Signal got a lot of heat here. Beside, just going off the name "Urban Prepper", this sounds like the exact target audience.

I like the urban prepper but seriously that tool should have landed in the hands of a MTO member.  I know some here have given this tool crap but I think with a few hands on the tool a well thought out review would have surfaced. 

Hope to see the MTO you tube up and running very soon. 

[Obi1shinobee]

Finally, why does this guy get to review it and not us? This is MULTITOOL.ORG, the #1 source for multitool reviews, information, and discussion on the web - and they send their latest offering to this guy. Really, Leatherman? Really?

Well, they wanted a positive review and the Signal got a lot of heat here. Beside, just going off the name "Urban Prepper", this sounds like the exact target audience.

I like the urban prepper but seriously that tool should have landed in the hands of a MTO member.  I know some here have given this tool crap but I think with a few hands on the tool a well thought out review would have surfaced. 

Hope to see the MTO you tube up and running very soon.

 YOU RIGHT ON THAT 

[Etherealicer]

So, finally got a chance to watch the video. Since its still the prototype (with the whistle looking to be broken) there is still no good way to assess how the useful the final product will be. What the video shows is that LM still has to do a lot of work until this can live up to the LM quality standards.

Hope we get to see the production ready thing soon.

[Obi1shinobee]

So, finally got a chance to watch the video. Since its still the prototype (with the whistle looking to be broken) there is still no good way to assess how the useful the final product will be. What the video shows is that LM still has to do a lot of work until this can live up to the LM quality standards.

Hope we get to see the production ready thing soon.

Leatherman gonna stay like that.. 

[Aloha]

So, finally got a chance to watch the video. Since its still the prototype (with the whistle looking to be broken) there is still no good way to assess how the useful the final product will be. What the video shows is that LM still has to do a lot of work until this can live up to the LM quality standards.

Hope we get to see the production ready thing soon.

I understand it's a protoype but still we have such knowledgeable members and several with great photo skills that could better IMO discuss this tool. 

This guy ( no offense ) isnt the type that would buy this tool anyway. URBAN prep.  Put it in the hands of a casual or real outdoorsman.  Heck what do I know LM managed to build an empire without my help, edit I have 100 LM tools so I did help some     

[Etherealicer]

So, finally got a chance to watch the video. Since its still the prototype (with the whistle looking to be broken) there is still no good way to assess how the useful the final product will be. What the video shows is that LM still has to do a lot of work until this can live up to the LM quality standards.

Hope we get to see the production ready thing soon.

I understand it's a protoype but still we have such knowledgeable members and several with great photo skills that could better IMO discuss this tool. 

This guy ( no offense ) isnt the type that would buy this tool anyway. URBAN prep.  Put it in the hands of a casual or real outdoorsman.  Heck what do I know LM managed to build an empire without my help, edit I have 100 LM tools so I did help some     

I agree, he missed on testing the sharpener and the ferro rod (2 of the 4 new tools, ok, so the hammer is not entierly new).
He did however raise some valid points and the video quality is good. I like his idea of engraving some signaling basics, like the Morse code. So, I like that he did the review giving a different perspective.
Also his audience is more likely going to buy this tool than outdoorsmen.

[Aloha]

So, finally got a chance to watch the video. Since its still the prototype (with the whistle looking to be broken) there is still no good way to assess how the useful the final product will be. What the video shows is that LM still has to do a lot of work until this can live up to the LM quality standards.

Hope we get to see the production ready thing soon.

I understand it's a protoype but still we have such knowledgeable members and several with great photo skills that could better IMO discuss this tool. 

This guy ( no offense ) isnt the type that would buy this tool anyway. URBAN prep.  Put it in the hands of a casual or real outdoorsman.  Heck what do I know LM managed to build an empire without my help, edit I have 100 LM tools so I did help some     

I agree, he missed on testing the sharpener and the ferro rod (2 of the 4 new tools, ok, so the hammer is not entierly new).
He did however raise some valid points and the video quality is good. I like his idea of engraving some signaling basics, like the Morse code. So, I like that he did the review giving a different perspective.
Also his audience is more likely going to buy this tool than outdoorsmen.

He does a great job.  I agree that the target is his audience as well.  I guess I would like to see an outdoorsman take on it.  I'd also like to see a regular MT users take.  He has a very good channel and is known for being detailed.  I like the dude and have watched a fair amount of his videos.  He does bring up a some nice points from a Urban view which is valid no question. 

I just would have loved to see it in the hands of one of own.  Grathr, Ductapetech, Syncop8er, Comis, hiraethus are some good ones to start with.  Then in the hands of average joes who get out one in a while then guys who just want a cool tool.  I know too much to ask.  One can hope tho so LM if you are reading this send that tool to one of the fellas I mentioned. 
 

[Kampfer]

i think he did a good job on signal review. detailly and being honest.

[BASguy]

Reviewing a prototype seems to highlight the current deficiencies.  That seems to be less than ideal given the ridiculously high price point this tool is sporting.  It also doesn't seem to help in the QC dept where Leatherman has taken a hit in recent years.
What I did think was good is the video really showed the size well.  This tool body is a win in my opinion.  If they release other tradesman style versions with this general frame, I could see that being a real win for them.  I'm definitely not wild about this tool, but I gotta say they are seemingly onto something here.  It will be interesting to see where it leads.


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[Aloha]

Reviewing a prototype seems to highlight the current deficiencies.  That seems to be less than ideal given the ridiculously high price point this tool is sporting.  It also doesn't seem to help in the QC dept where Leatherman has taken a hit in recent years.
What I did think was good is the video really showed the size well.  This tool body is a win in my opinion.  If they release other tradesman style versions with this general frame, I could see that being a real win for them.  I'm definitely not wild about this tool, but I gotta say they are seemingly onto something here.  It will be interesting to see where it leads.


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Could they be sending it out looking for actual honest feedback rather than a bunch of monkey raving about how cool it is to get a better direction? 

I also thought the size was good and the concept is not bad at all just some tweaks and refinements to what the tool is supposed to be not what its trying to be.     

[Higgins617]

Yeah I mean I really don't think it looks bad at all. The plastic bits are gimmicky, but I guess I understand their inclusion. They aren't an awful idea. But as much as I like the concept, there is no way in hell you're getting 120 bucks out of me for one. Not because it's not a good concept, it just doesn't offer enough to me to be enticing at that price point.

[Kampfer]

If the finished product is fatter than Wave would be a deal breaker for me.

[Obi1shinobee]

If the finished product is fatter than Wave would be a deal breaker for me.

Look like it.. 

[Kampfer]

I will buy one but if it is fatter I won't carry it

[Obi1shinobee]

i will buy when go down 50 bucks

[captain spaulding]

i will buy when go down 50 bucks

Looks like your never going to get one then. 

[Obi1shinobee]

i will buy when go down 50 bucks

Looks like your never going to get one then. 

Never say never

[BASguy]

I have a feeling that TEOTWAWKI crowd is gonna eat this thing up.


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[Obi1shinobee]

I have a feeling that TEOTWAWKI crowd is gonna eat this thing up.


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[zoidberg]

I have a feeling that TEOTWAWKI crowd is gonna eat this thing up.


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I do hope they have a good digestive system. 

[BASguy]

I have a feeling that TEOTWAWKI crowd is gonna eat this thing up.


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I do hope they have a good digestive system. 

LOL


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[Demel]

I was thinking about an edc alternative to the signal: replace saw with file from wave, inside tools are scissors, awl, and bit driver. And of course lose the plastic pieces. I would buy that

[Mr. Whippy]

OK!   

After reviewing the Signal on Leatherman's site, here are my thoughts:

1. Ditch the can opener.  In a pinch, I can use the awl.
2. Put that awesome diamond coat file in the slot freed up
3. Ditch the whistle and add more on board bit storage. OR...
        3a.  Add a detachable alligator wrench. 
4.  I'm fine with keeping the detachable sharpener. That's cool.

The overall frame of the Signal is great. I will almost certainly end up with one at some point.

[Mr. Whippy]

Oh, and just a PE option too please.