Problem with Electricians?

[glenfiddich1983]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an TF2 Engineer, alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

For building sentry guns, dispensers and teleporters of course 

[kaput]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Give me one good reason why you should not own a Electrician?

the, no lanyard ring, kinda bums me out... Is that decent 
Neither does the duo or plus.

Can I ask why some don't? Is it just a layer thing, or a styling cue?

Thanks

[sLaughterMed]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Give me one good reason why you should not own a Electrician?

the, no lanyard ring, kinda bums me out... Is that decent 
Neither does the duo or plus.

Can I ask why some don't? Is it just a layer thing, or a styling cue?

Thanks

I think it's a styling cue from the Vic Soldiers. I think Vic views the 93mm line as more "hard use" than the Cellior models, and losing the lanyard loop makes the knife more comfortable in heavier and long-term use.

Or I could just be talking out my ass. Definitely one of those.

[Poncho65]

Beautiful shot Joe58 Now you need a few Electrician Plus's to go with them

[styx]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Give me one good reason why you should not own a Electrician?

When it comes to spending, my spirit animal is a Scot. apologies to all Scots on the forum

  As as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do you not already own an electrician?

I have a Pioneer so that makes it a bit more complex in my head

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an TF2 Engineer, alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

For building sentry guns, dispensers and teleporters of course 

That actually helps

[Joe58]

Beautiful shot Joe58 Now you need a few Electrician Plus's to go with them

I just prefer the two layers. And I've no use for the saw for my mundane activities. When I venture out, the Vic MT is always along, and I've one of those folding saws that are around 8" closed maybe. Forget who makes it but it cuts smaller stuff quite well, like if I'm cutting a few branches to prop in front of me when I'm hunting or something like that. Or cutting a branch to smooth over the horses hoof prints if the posse is on my trail and I'm trying to throw them off my trail.

About the keyring - If I do end up with one, like on the Swiss +B electricians, I take it off with the Dremel. I find that in my grip, if I need to bear done a bit, that keyring nub hurts my hand. I really wish they'd have kept the old hollow rivit.

[zoidberg]

Lanyards can be useful in certain situations however for the most part I don't need them and find the attachment point uncomfortable.

[kaput]

I'm not for "lanyarding" everything. BUT, I do like to "nite-ize s-hook caribeaner-dangle" things from my pocket for easy access and organization in my pocket. I've never been a fan of having anything laying horizontal in my pockets...

But I digress. I'm ordering one tonight 

[SAK Guy]

I used to grind mine off but as I've gotten older and now the RA, my ALOX sees less heavy work and more slipping out of my hand. 

Both my orig Pioneer from '83 and the first Farmer after the fire both got de-horned. Lately I'm fine either way but the nub does dig into my hand.

[Joe58]

Lanyards can be useful in certain situations however for the most part I don't need them and find the attachment point uncomfortable.

The only time I did actually like to have a lanyard option is if I was out in the boonies, or working on a mast antenna, hated that as I don't like heights, but I could run a string thru and then over the belt to prevent dropping or loss.

It's just nice to have that option available for those who like it. But anymore now days, I personally don't need one.

I have seen it mentioned on MTO from others that it's been an issue for them that their knife has wanted to slip out of their pocket while sitting. I've not experienced this myself since I find the electrician plenty weighty enough to stay put in the bottom of my pocket. I could maybe see this happening if I were to dig it out while sitting, then poke it back into my pocket while still sitting, and the knife not having a chance to drop back to the bottom of my pocket.

I don't carry a knife in the small watch pocket as some do. That pocket is one I don't trust not to lose something out of.

[magentus]

Beautiful shot Joe58 Now you need a few Electrician Plus's to go with them

I just prefer the two layers. And I've no use for the saw for my mundane activities. When I venture out, the Vic MT is always along, and I've one of those folding saws that are around 8" closed maybe. Forget who makes it but it cuts smaller stuff quite well, like if I'm cutting a few branches to prop in front of me when I'm hunting or something like that. Or cutting a branch to smooth over the horses hoof prints if the posse is on my trail and I'm trying to throw them off my trail.

About the keyring - If I do end up with one, like on the Swiss +B electricians, I take it off with the Dremel. I find that in my grip, if I need to bear done a bit, that keyring nub hurts my hand. I really wish they'd have kept the old hollow rivit.

I really wish that too. I modded my Farmer to a hollow rivet because I found the lanyard nub too uncomfortable and I have to have a lanyard.

I can't see a good reason for Vic to not have a hollow rivet - it's the best of both worlds. Nothing to grind off, but nice and comfortable to use.

[zoidberg]

The attachment point can also be annoying when sheath carrying larger SAKs, it creates some unnecessary bulk/empty space.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Beautiful shot Joe58 Now you need a few Electrician Plus's to go with them

I just prefer the two layers. And I've no use for the saw for my mundane activities. When I venture out, the Vic MT is always along, and I've one of those folding saws that are around 8" closed maybe. Forget who makes it but it cuts smaller stuff quite well, like if I'm cutting a few branches to prop in front of me when I'm hunting or something like that. Or cutting a branch to smooth over the horses hoof prints if the posse is on my trail and I'm trying to throw them off my trail.

About the keyring - If I do end up with one, like on the Swiss +B electricians, I take it off with the Dremel. I find that in my grip, if I need to bear done a bit, that keyring nub hurts my hand. I really wish they'd have kept the old hollow rivit.

I really wish that too. I modded my Farmer to a hollow rivet because I found the lanyard nub too uncomfortable and I have to have a lanyard.

I can't see a good reason for Vic to not have a hollow rivet - it's the best of both worlds. Nothing to grind off, but nice and comfortable to use.

I bet they got rid of the hollow rivet because people were taking their knives apart and messing them up. Make ot harder to take them apart.

[Captain Howdy]

+1 on the hollow rivet. 

[magentus]

+1 on the hollow rivet. 

Sweet avatar Cap 

[Captain Howdy]

+1 on the hollow rivet. 

Sweet avatar Cap 

Thanks!! Maiden Japan, one of the best live albums in existance. 

[pfrsantos]

+1 on the hollow rivet. 

Sweet avatar Cap 

Dude avatar!

[ljnoble]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

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[styx]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

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I've actually used the can opener more for phillips screws than opening cans

[kaput]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

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I've actually used the can opener more for phillips screws than opening cans

thats the aspect I would miss out on. I'm still deciding which will be my first SAK (in a long long time), I thought I had finally figured it out and was going to order the electrician but remembered Amazon doesn't play well with PayPal.

 I need the use of a smaller flathead for removing wall plates, scoops, and other electrical outlets where that small flat head sized screws doesn't work well with the larger sizes flat head bits. Both in width and thickness.

[kaput]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

[glenfiddich1983]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

Maybe the Harvester is a good alternative for you? They are widely available. Then you will of course have the pruning blade instead of the electricians blade...

To be very honest: I very much prefer the pruning blade over the electricians blade

[zoidberg]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

Maybe the Harvester is a good alternative for you? They are widely available. Then you will of course have the pruning blade instead of the electricians blade...

To be very honest: I very much prefer the pruning blade over the electricians blade

I'll take the electrician opposite the pruning blade and ditch the main blade.      

[glenfiddich1983]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

Maybe the Harvester is a good alternative for you? They are widely available. Then you will of course have the pruning blade instead of the electricians blade...

To be very honest: I very much prefer the pruning blade over the electricians blade

I'll take the electrician opposite the pruning blade and ditch the main blade.      

If they were a little cheaper i'd probably take one of the carver models from Swiss Bianco. They have 3 blades   

[ljnoble]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

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I've actually used the can opener more for phillips screws than opening cans

Fair point, I use the alox electrician as my work Cary pocket knife normally and being a sparkie i tend to have a stack of screw driver and a impact driver close by

That is a good point though, I also tend to grind down the end of the bottle opener to about the same side as the driver on the can opener as I never really need a flat blade that big and asking as you don't take to much off still opens bottles fine.

I'll send a photo when I get home

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[Joe58]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

I posted pics of what the blade looks like after taking a polisher cloth wheel bit in my Dremel and Flitz to the +B advertising. It takes it off nicely except for the vague outline of it that seems to be under the finish. Takes it to looking like a watermark in the right angle or lighting. Most the time it's not even noticeable. Not near as annoying. Just something to consider. Someone that has a bit more skill and better tools may be able to get it removed even better. But just getting the black inked part off is a huge improvement.

Styx - In my carry, I've added the minichamp in the other pocket which does work well on those outlet covers as well as providing a couple small blades that'll get scalpel sharp. I've found a minichamp and electrician to be a good combo. So I may be cheating just a little by giving up the can opener tool with its little flathead. And the few times when I've tried with the flat head from a Soldier on a stubborn screw, the flat head will twist then that just drives me crazy after that happens. Hate that look. Mental issues. Lol.

[styx]

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

Sent from my XT1092 using Tapatalk

I've actually used the can opener more for phillips screws than opening cans

thats the aspect I would miss out on. I'm still deciding which will be my first SAK (in a long long time), I thought I had finally figured it out and was going to order the electrician but remembered Amazon doesn't play well with PayPal.

 I need the use of a smaller flathead for removing wall plates, scoops, and other electrical outlets where that small flat head sized screws doesn't work well with the larger sizes flat head bits. Both in width and thickness.

ok gentlemen and ladies, this might be the best place to ask - as an alox lover, SAK knight and pragmatist why do I need an electrician?

Should always use a electrician for any electrical work to avoid electrocution or fires

But in all seriousness, I find the electricians blade much more useful than the can opener and I can open cans with it if I need to. Also find the look of the added electrician blade much more pleasing to look at than the can opener

Sent from my XT1092 using Tapatalk

I've actually used the can opener more for phillips screws than opening cans

Fair point, I use the alox electrician as my work Cary pocket knife normally and being a sparkie i tend to have a stack of screw driver and a impact driver close by

That is a good point though, I also tend to grind down the end of the bottle opener to about the same side as the driver on the can opener as I never really need a flat blade that big and asking as you don't take to much off still opens bottles fine.

I'll send a photo when I get home

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The answer to all this could be in a companion SAK like a Classic SD or a LM Style PS (a Classic being my edc and Style PS only thing that could give it a run in the rotation)

[styx]

Also. Is there anywhere to still purchase a Electrician Plus? For a somewhat reasonable price. Besides Swiss Branco, I would consider the price, but the branding/advertising on the blade to me is a turn off and deal breaker. 

I posted pics of what the blade looks like after taking a polisher cloth wheel bit in my Dremel and Flitz to the +B advertising. It takes it off nicely except for the vague outline of it that seems to be under the finish. Takes it to looking like a watermark in the right angle or lighting. Most the time it's not even noticeable. Not near as annoying. Just something to consider. Someone that has a bit more skill and better tools may be able to get it removed even better. But just getting the black inked part off is a huge improvement.

Styx - In my carry, I've added the minichamp in the other pocket which does work well on those outlet covers as well as providing a couple small blades that'll get scalpel sharp. I've found a minichamp and electrician to be a good combo. So I may be cheating just a little by giving up the can opener tool with its little flathead. And the few times when I've tried with the flat head from a Soldier on a stubborn screw, the flat head will twist then that just drives me crazy after that happens. Hate that look. Mental issues. Lol.

You've beat me to the punch by mere seconds 

[kaput]

A question for the pros, and electrician aficionados. Question on thickness. Is the electrician to the pioneer as the electrician duo is to the farmer? (Im familiar with how thick the farmer and pioneer are but not the electricians, which I plan to buy.)

Pics would be wonderful, but a yes or no would work too 

[David Bowen]

I've been carrying an electrician some because it has the smaller sheepsfoot blade. Great for things that need greater control, great for sheeple enviroments and I love the notch for wire stripping.

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