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New 1897 replica coming
on: May 04, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
Just had an email from Victorinox announcing a new replica 1897 coming on 10 June….. wonder what it’ll cost? Probably too much for me! :rofl: Here’s the details so far https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Replica%C2%A01897/cms/replica-1897
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #1 on: May 05, 2022, 12:11:17 AM
Quote from: Rizio Il Ghiro on May 04, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
Just had an email from Victorinox announcing a new replica 1897 coming on 10 June….. wonder what it’ll cost? Probably too much for me! :rofl: Here’s the details so far https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Replica%C2%A01897/cms/replica-1897

I'll join you on the poor peoples step  ::)
They don't like it up 'em!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #2 on: May 05, 2022, 01:00:06 AM
God I wish it wasnt a limited edition :cry:

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #3 on: May 05, 2022, 01:20:40 AM
Looking very forward to what price point they will want.  Exciting though to see a replica item, since a genuine item would be too difficult to find.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #4 on: May 05, 2022, 01:35:22 AM
Interesting move from them, seems to follow Leatherman with their Limited PST release a few years ago. My take on it: Make the nice expensive limited edition models with lovely box and numbers, but also release a "normal" version sans numbers and fancy box for us who would want to use it. Updated metals and assembling techniques should be nice.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #5 on: May 05, 2022, 02:15:27 AM
I have a 1942/M1908, which is close enough for me. And, despite being nearly worn out (especially the blade), I can't complain for $15.

I'm curious on the price too. If it's $100 or less, I'm game for one, as so far, I've had no luck finding an original officer's knife. My oldest Wenger is a small single-blade from the Tahara era, my oldest Elsener a 1942, and my oldest 91mm from '57-61.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #6 on: May 05, 2022, 03:06:16 AM
:ahhh :ahhh :popcorn:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #7 on: May 05, 2022, 03:06:56 AM
Quote from: Rizio Il Ghiro on May 04, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
Just had an email from Victorinox announcing a new replica 1897 coming on 10 June….. wonder what it’ll cost? Probably too much for me! :rofl: Here’s the details so far https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Replica%C2%A01897/cms/replica-1897

Thanks for the heads up; color me interested!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #8 on: May 05, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
The 125th Anniversary Heritage limited edition of the Soldiers' knife seems to have been for sale at about $500.... but is on eBay for $1300, so I presume this one will be in the same ballpark.

 A real shame, as I'd also have been interested in a non-limited replica.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #9 on: May 05, 2022, 10:22:03 AM
I ordered mine over a year ago :D
A friend saw the prototype
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #10 on: May 05, 2022, 03:38:28 PM
Quote from: Tasky on May 05, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
The 125th Anniversary Heritage limited edition of the Soldiers' knife seems to have been for sale at about $500.... but is on eBay for $1300, so I presume this one will be in the same ballpark.
A real shame, as I'd also have been interested in a non-limited replica.
:iagree:   :iagree:

Although for some reason I seem to fancy this one more than the Soldier replica

Can't wait to see the pics or hear from someone (Mr E ???)  when he receives his!!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #11 on: May 06, 2022, 08:14:01 PM
Thats the original.

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Reply #12 on: May 06, 2022, 10:26:11 PM
Aawwwww……. Thanks for sharing that, Ulli!  :drool:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #13 on: May 07, 2022, 12:27:15 AM
:iagree: that’s a real beauty :tu:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #14 on: May 07, 2022, 09:30:06 AM
Okay, colour me interested  :oops:

Hopefully they go for profit through quantity not scarcity...
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #15 on: May 07, 2022, 10:50:32 AM
I heard it's going to be $750 in the U.S. I don't know if it's carbon or stainless steel. I would rather have a real period piece but not really interested in that era of knife

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Reply #16 on: May 07, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: Swisster on May 07, 2022, 10:50:32 AM
I heard it's going to be $750 in the U.S. I don't know if it's carbon or stainless steel. I would rather have a real period piece but not really interested in that era of knife

Welp, that prices it out of most people's reasonable reach, with that kind of pricing it has to be a small run.

idk why they don't just make it a regular run with a small premium over the modern models. They already have to work out the tooling to make them anyway  :dunno:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #17 on: May 07, 2022, 11:51:59 AM
:iagree: out of my price range
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #18 on: May 07, 2022, 01:29:59 PM
Very interesting but at $750 I'll pass.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #19 on: May 07, 2022, 03:51:43 PM
If it is indeed $750 that would be outrageous, but what's a SAK addict to do? 

The last few LE's have been a disappointment to me, but this knife looks really cool and seems truly inspired.  I'll probably cave and pick one up. 
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #20 on: May 12, 2022, 12:05:22 PM
It is expected to be around 500Euro. Possibly a bit more.

The dealers will have these models displayed in a special glass cabinet, so it is considered quite an important release, definitely more significant that the yearly Damascus models.

Now,
The previous Heritage model went through a weird phase where it was after, a year, selling on Amazon.us for less than it cost to buy new (306 USD in 2013), as it appears that in some countries there was a lot of unsold stock left.

The prices did go up after a few years but considering the number of years it has been out of production and the fact that it was a very significant limited release the current, about double accounting for inflation really, prices are not that impressive, from a collectible point of view.

Possibly the release of this model my push up the old heritage model prices too.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #21 on: May 12, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
They are Swiss. They are masters of Veblen goods, such as their premium watches, that are less accurate than the cheapest Casio.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #22 on: May 13, 2022, 01:35:00 AM
Quote from: kkokkolis on May 12, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
They are Swiss. They are masters of Veblen goods, such as their premium watches, that are less accurate than the cheapest Casio.
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Is that really true? That is crazy

Talking of crazy - That price is ridiculous - How can it possibly be justified - Although if they have to set up a whole new tooling line (or two) in the factory - I gues that would be pretty exp.!!

Also keen to know the markup (50%?)  - Something that alwys p1sses me off - especially for the online retailers who can have much overhead!!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #23 on: May 13, 2022, 01:39:23 AM
Quote from: ulli on May 06, 2022, 08:14:01 PM
Thats the original.

Whoa - Six turn corkscrew - I thought we only had four and five!!!

That is a beauty Ulli - What year is it from please?  - I know you'll know    :pok:   :D   - Or at least have a range    :tu:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #24 on: May 13, 2022, 01:43:47 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on May 13, 2022, 01:35:00 AM
Is that really true? That is crazy


The population as a whole moved to quartz movements because they were both cheaper, and more more accurate. It's not uncommon, or even regarded as a bad thing, for mechanical watches to lose or gain 8 seconds+ a day. Getting high accuracy out of a mechanical is expensive and in a very real sense, when you get up there they start caring more about the jewelry factor more than the accuracy of the time piece.

Personally, when I can afford nicer watches I'm just going to get Japanese market Citizens and Casios, super nice looking but still accurate and full of features  :dunno:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #25 on: May 13, 2022, 04:38:46 AM
Ah - Thanks GF - I see now - The electronic/quartz vs traditional mechanical movements

Agreed - All the features are great on the electronic - If no so beautiful looking !!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #26 on: May 13, 2022, 07:43:46 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on May 13, 2022, 04:38:46 AM
Ah - Thanks GF - I see now - The electronic/quartz vs traditional mechanical movements

Agreed - All the features are great on the electronic - If no so beautiful looking !!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #27 on: May 14, 2022, 03:05:21 AM
Neat!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #28 on: May 14, 2022, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: GearedForwards on May 13, 2022, 01:43:47 AM
The population as a whole moved to quartz movements because they were both cheaper, and more more accurate. It's not uncommon, or even regarded as a bad thing, for mechanical watches to lose or gain 8 seconds+ a day. Getting high accuracy out of a mechanical is expensive and in a very real sense, when you get up there they start caring more about the jewelry factor more than the accuracy of the time piece.

Personally, when I can afford nicer watches I'm just going to get Japanese market Citizens and Casios, super nice looking but still accurate and full of features  :dunno:

 :iagree: I love my Citizens. I have 3 (but can't find one  :bnghd:  :rant:)
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #29 on: May 14, 2022, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: kkokkolis on May 12, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
They are Swiss. They are masters of Veblen goods, such as their premium watches, that are less accurate than the cheapest Casio.

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I'll NEVER knock Casio watches. I got one in the mid 1980's, and it finally stopped working 4 years ago. Not bad for a 19.95 cheap digital.
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