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Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
on: March 26, 2009, 08:50:39 PM
Does anyone know if there are any SOG stockists in the UK? Preferably in or around London? Trying to get hold of a PowerAssist but not having much luck!! Thanks.


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Re: Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 08:53:15 PM
Heinnies have them http://www.heinnie.com/jjx5y31335134/Pocket-Tools/SOG/c-1-94-224/ . Being a UK store they aren't as cheap as the banner members from the US though, but being AO it would probably make sense to buy it in the UK.  Especially with customs being like they are ATM.

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Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 09:04:25 PM
Cool, i'll give them a try! Thanks!


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Re: Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 10:02:37 PM
Welcome to the forum Toze :tu: hope you find the SOG your looking for :cheers:


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Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 10:02:46 PM
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Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 10:19:44 PM
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Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 10:37:08 PM
Many thanks gentlemen, nice to be part of the gang!


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Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 03:31:23 PM
Heinnies have them http://www.heinnie.com/jjx5y31335134/Pocket-Tools/SOG/c-1-94-224/ . Being a UK store they aren't as cheap as the banner members from the US though, but being AO it would probably make sense to buy it in the UK.  Especially with customs being like they are ATM.

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I have been thinking of this for awhile and I'm getting a little worried now! but not overly so! it takes a lot to do that,

however here's the thing:I have a power assist on it's way from Tasmania(fingers crossed haha!) but I would have thought if it's available in the UK which it is as I write this,why would it be any different ordering from outside the UK. :think:

Surely! the shops like Heinnie  and shop4lessUK.com would have to import them,so my point is customs would most likely look at their consignments  and if there were any prohibited items then they would not be able to advertise or sell power assists. :think: 

Just thinking out loud guys  :D
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Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
If UK laws are any similar to ours, reps are allowed to import such items on a special permit. It goes in tandem with the fact that you can't carry them in public (without a good reason etc.) but you can own them nevertheless.


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Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 03:47:38 PM
If UK laws are any similar to ours, reps are allowed to import such items on a special permit. It goes in tandem with the fact that you can't carry them in public (without a good reason etc.) but you can own them nevertheless.
Yes! same here but there are no special permits here for anyone wanting to own prohibited items,I think that's what I was trying to say if it's not prohibited by Law then it should be ok to import a power assist.

I know OTF and so called flick knives are prohibited and not even heinnie could help if you wanted one.
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Re: Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
Not that I want to add fuel to the fire, but remember that any packages that Customs decides to look at is scrutinized at the whim of the agent looking at it.  It's not a pass/fail type system, but an interpretive one.

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Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 04:08:12 PM
The permit here is for importing and selling, not owning. I guess it's a measure to limit importing of prohibited items to certain individuals/companies so that they can be better controlled by the authorities. That, in turn, allows these individuals/companies to resell them at whatever price they deem good for them, as the competition is non-existent... ::)


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Re: Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 06:40:08 PM
Not that I want to add fuel to the fire, but remember that any packages that Customs decides to look at is scrutinized at the whim of the agent looking at it.  It's not a pass/fail type system, but an interpretive one.

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And that's exactly the problem.

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Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 08:56:50 PM
Ok and really to put my mind at rest I did some digging the facts are:

 if an item is seized in customs it has to be for a good reason (and correct interpretation of the knife laws) and not just because they feel like it "ah that looks dodgy lets seize it" in other words it has to be a prohibited item of which I discovered the sog power assist is not.

in fact only full auto knives are not semi auto's,there is one other thing if a item is seized there is an appeal procedure within thirty days.

A typical letter of seizure http://www.blades-uk.com/images/links/customs.jpg

I know this is useless info for many but! guys you had me thinking!
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Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 10:03:51 PM
What you have said is true, but there is still interpetation of the law that can mean that your new blade gets confiscated.  For example, some Spydies (and other knives) that are legal to buy here in the UK have been seized as they can be opened by inertia and are then classified as a gravity knife which are on the ban list.

Because the law can be so grey in some places, you can still end up being caught out and out of pocket.
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Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 10:19:20 PM
What you have said is true, but there is still interpetation of the law that can mean that your new blade gets confiscated.  For example, some Spydies (and other knives) that are legal to buy here in the UK have been seized as they can be opened by inertia and are then classified as a gravity knife which are on the ban list.

Because the law can be so grey in some places, you can still end up being caught out and out of pocket.
So very true what you have said hence why I also added there is a recourse for those seizures IMHO I would just let the court decide if it came to that but they're not having my sog without a fight  :twak:,fingers still crossed   :ahhh


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Re: Anyone know any SOG stockists in the UK?
Reply #16 on: April 29, 2009, 11:47:19 AM
What you have said is true, but there is still interpetation of the law that can mean that your new blade gets confiscated.  For example, some Spydies (and other knives) that are legal to buy here in the UK have been seized as they can be opened by inertia and are then classified as a gravity knife which are on the ban list.

Because the law can be so grey in some places, you can still end up being caught out and out of pocket.

And sadly quite a few people have been including members of this forum :(

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Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 12:08:18 PM
What you have said is true, but there is still interpetation of the law that can mean that your new blade gets confiscated.  For example, some Spydies (and other knives) that are legal to buy here in the UK have been seized as they can be opened by inertia and are then classified as a gravity knife which are on the ban list.

Because the law can be so grey in some places, you can still end up being caught out and out of pocket.

And sadly quite a few people have been including members of this forum :(

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Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 12:10:49 PM
Well I know of someone who had a Spydie UKPK conviscated, and that's bloody legal edc :-\

It just doesn't pay to get anything even remotely suspect abroad these days. Far better to just pay a little extra (especially while the exchange rate is terrible) and get it in the UK :)
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Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 12:18:29 PM
Well I know of someone who had a Spydie UKPK conviscated, and that's bloody legal edc :-\

It just doesn't pay to get anything even remotely suspect abroad these days. Far better to just pay a little extra (especially while the exchange rate is terrible) and get it in the UK :)

I think they got that one back in the end as the blade doesn't lock and therefore couldn't classify as a gravity knife.  Plenty of other Spydies have been taken though.  :(

I'm with Mike, pay the extra and buy from the UK for this kind of thing when possible.  It sucks, but it's the safer option.
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Reply #20 on: April 29, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
Well I know of someone who had a Spydie UKPK conviscated, and that's bloody legal edc :-\

It just doesn't pay to get anything even remotely suspect abroad these days. Far better to just pay a little extra (especially while the exchange rate is terrible) and get it in the UK :)

I think they got that one back in the end as the blade doesn't lock and therefore couldn't classify as a gravity knife.  Plenty of other Spydies have been taken though.  :(

I'm with Mike, pay the extra and buy from the UK for this kind of thing when possible.  It sucks, but it's the safer option.
And you don't then stand to lose a load of wedge, and end up on the customs watch list then either :)
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Reply #21 on: April 29, 2009, 12:39:03 PM
Well I know of someone who had a Spydie UKPK conviscated, and that's bloody legal edc :-\

It just doesn't pay to get anything even remotely suspect abroad these days. Far better to just pay a little extra (especially while the exchange rate is terrible) and get it in the UK :)
Wow! I had a spyderco P/KAL"which is clearly a defence knife" inspected by customs just last year and I received ok  :think:

Well that confirms it for me the prohibited item laws clearly do not work and are a complete joke IMO

I will take the advice given here in future but! I do hope the person in question appealed that "unacceptable" decision  :tu:


BTW thanks guys! for the replies I may have continued getting my knives and tools from the USA as I always have,but I will where possible get them now within the UK
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Reply #22 on: April 29, 2009, 12:41:01 PM
He did get it back, but there are several people in the UK out of pocket because of seizures of knives commonly on sale actually in the UK >:(
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Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 01:55:46 AM
BTW thanks guys! for the replies I may have continued getting my knives and tools from the USA as I always have,but I will where possible get them now within the UK

Hmmmmm. What the guys have said is clearly right, but on some things I actually think it's worth the risk. It's like the risk of things getting lost in the post, a sort of occupational hazard for collectors of these things.

It's a bit different now, but 12 months ago, anything imported from the US was basically half the UK price, but the crap exchange rate makes the gamble a bit less worthwhile now I suppose.
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Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 10:47:53 AM
The crap exchange rate has stopped me buying quite a few bits and bobs recently.  Combine that with the fact that I'm finding customs are hitting me for almost anything coming in over $25USD and its not good.  Like I've mentioned before its not really the tax I object to but when you're buying something at $30USD then having to pay £8 ($12USD) just to collect it that takes the shine of a new purchase :(

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Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 12:13:27 PM
The crap exchange rate has stopped me buying quite a few bits and bobs recently.  Combine that with the fact that I'm finding customs are hitting me for almost anything coming in over $25USD and its not good.  Like I've mentioned before its not really the tax I object to but when you're buying something at $30USD then having to pay £8 ($12USD) just to collect it that takes the shine of a new purchase :(

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Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 12:15:42 PM
Gift limit is £18 :(  £7 for non-gift unless they've upped it since March <crosses fingers>  :cry:

I've certainly been got for my fee on a $30USD gift this year  >:(

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Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 09:24:33 PM
Gift limit is £18 :(  £7 for non-gift unless they've upped it since March <crosses fingers>  :cry:

I've certainly been got for my fee on a $30USD gift this year  >:(

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And, this is a guideline, not a guarantee. Customs have the option of charging you for a £1 item if they choose, gift or not. The values they publish are discretionary and can clearly be seen to change depending on the economic climate. Right now, our wonderful government seem to have f****d the economy up good and proper, so be prepared to be screwed on customs tariffs, tax, duty and very soon, fresh air tax.
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Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 09:35:45 PM
Gift limit is £18 :(  £7 for non-gift unless they've upped it since March <crosses fingers>  :cry:

I've certainly been got for my fee on a $30USD gift this year  >:(

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And, this is a guideline, not a guarantee. Customs have the option of charging you for a £1 item if they choose, gift or not. The values they publish are discretionary and can clearly be seen to change depending on the economic climate. Right now, our wonderful government seem to have f****d the economy up good and proper, so be prepared to be screwed on customs tariffs, tax, duty and very soon, fresh air tax.
This is true nothing escapes our "TAXES" just for a laugh and to make it a little less "OMG" oppressive I received just back in Nov a package on the package was the customs "PAY NOW OR ELSE" label £12 well! that was it I never paid and my Postman never asked,some light at the end of the tunnel.I'll say.


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Reply #29 on: May 05, 2009, 07:59:15 PM
Just to report "guess" what arrived today! untouched by customs meat hooks  :cheers:

Pictures and a report tomorrow   >:D


 

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