Give teenagers the respect they deserve hmm! I'm lost for words

[John]

I hear it all the time oh those poor souls, everyone's against them ahh!(I'm done with that BS) more like the other way around,this is the result from telling three kids to get out of some ones garden   I know most of you will say hey! not bad one broken window in four years   what you complaining about? I except that but I'm done with the cotton wool approach,time for action  






Well I'm done with them they do not warrant my respect any more   now I wouldn't trust them to walk a puppy in fact I'm in the frame of mind to say the law should adopt this: zero tolerance out of the womb and into a cell  approach ) JMO four years of stones at my window allows me a little rant now and then   apologises to the law abiding  

[AHB]

What's the name of that pretty blue flower in your garden...? 
  

[John]

What's the name of that pretty blue flower in your garden...?  
   

Oh that's a new find! called blue fox..rubbish bag! 

[edit] It's not my garden I'm on the first floor 

[John]

Actually I'm expecting them back tonight as I know they will want to finish the thing off,now the dilemma I cannot use dogs,I cannot use video it's the law around here   and I agree all CCTV should be banned if used on the public anyway haha!  

[Sazabi]

Why can't you video them and then send a copy of the video to your constabulary? o.O

[John]

Why can't you video them and then send a copy of the video to your constabulary? o.O

You cannot simply video kids(in fear of counter prosecution) here unless the police set it up first   for a broken window I doubt they'll do it  



[edit] just spoken with my local  and apparently it's more complicated than just CCTV installation  hmm I'll be interested in what they have to tell me 

[Magic Bus]

What they need is a close encounter with a Swisstool  

[WhichDawg]

I friend just had their store window broken (art gallery), by drunks and vandals.
2K bucks! I hear you brother, good hunt...er luck!

[Magic Bus]

Our large (expensive) shop window was broken by some lowlife throwing a bottle from the pub nearby   

[John]

Our large (expensive) shop window was broken by some lowlife throwing a bottle from the pub nearby   

Well I'm in the process of making leather shoes for my dog's GLASS HERE is a walk of life,that's why I recently purchased a uncle bill's sliver gripper,used it three time this week already .

[John]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm  you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them   

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Tough luck mate

Why we have to suffer in silence over here is beyond me

We pay there bloody wages at the end of the day

[AHB]

What's the name of that pretty blue flower in your garden...?  
   

Oh that's a new find! called blue fox..rubbish bag! 

[edit] It's not my garden I'm on the first floor 

Just tried to ease the tension... 
Have you thought about a bucket of water and letting the  catch the wet bandits..

[Magic Bus]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm  you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them   

That's utter cr@p mate   

[LatinoHeat]

Just wait for them with a mask on, and then kick their asses.  They won't be able to identify you, and you'll feel SOOOO much better about things.  LOL.

[John]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm   you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them    

That's utter cr@p mate  

So say's someone with haha up his ass ring now we need to ask dude? comedy man ? :think:ring this No! 03003333000    

[edit] Oh disappearing man (or ?disappearing buses, now I know why they don't turn up on time),don't take this to heart but! poooooof!   none of it is set in stone  

[John]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm   you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them    

That's utter cr@p mate  

  oh yeah!   like why would I BS I'm not a magician LOL,funny magic bus you ride in mate,good luck!

  and relax  

[sappyg]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm  you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them   

i know laws are different in other places but how can you possibly justify that law. how can anyone expect privacy on a public path.... it's public. 
anyone on the path is open to observation. the fact they are likey minors is even more reason for observation. if you have documented these this behavior with your "law enforcement" with no relief how can you sit and do nothing. honestly, who's breaking the law here? you?.... the hooligans?.... or the cops by not doing their job? do you not have a right to protect yourself and your property?

[John]

Update LOl got a reply back hmm  you cannot video a public path ugh! I'm surrounded by them   

i know laws are different in other places but how can you possibly justify that law. how can anyone expect privacy on a public path.... it's public. 
anyone on the path is open to observation. the fact they are likey minors is even more reason for observation. if you have documented these this behavior with your "law enforcement" with no relief how can you sit and do nothing. honestly, who's breaking the law here? you?.... the hooligans?.... or the cops by not doing their job? do you not have a right to protect yourself and your property?

Honestly no here we are  not allowed to protect from teenagers also you are so wrong you cannot video everyone here 

[ducktapehero]

Just wait for them with a mask on, and then kick their asses. 

+1

[duckman1975]

I know I did a lot of stupid things in my teens but not as inconsiderate as that! Teens they are barely human!

[Grant Lamontagne]

Given that my Jeep was broken into last week and my GPS and power inverter were stolen, I tend to agree with the sentiment.  However, as with anything else, it's the noticeable few that give them all a bad name.

What about sensor lights?  If nothing else, they will serve to alert you of passersby at odd hours and possibly deter anyone from doing anything, when they could easily be seen or identified.

As for videotaping in a public place, is it illegal or merely inadmissible in court?  If it's inadmissible then you can still do it, just don't expect to be able to use it for the police, but there are other ways of doing it.  Communicating with the parents and providing evidence to satisfy their claims means they may take action where the police can't.  You might also want to look into whether or not still images are covered by this- if they were, then no one would be able to take vacation pictures.....

I can't support vigilantism, at least not overtly, but there will be times when it's up to the individual to take responsibility for themselves, their homes and their neighbors.  Finding a way to do it legally may be difficult, but it can be the only way to keep your belongings intact.  Above all else though, keep yourself safe.  Property protection is no excuse for getting hurt and/or killed.

Def

[Sea Monster]

Interesting fact - local reports indicate the greater number of crimes are by the 20-30 crowd, rather than teenagers.

I guess cause we can afford more alcohol? - and some of us are carrying aggregate feet of sharpened steel, ignition sources, and enough rope to make bondage night at the Gaff look like child's play.



As for this public-recording issue?

In theory I am Pro-Privacy (except that bit about not using cameras on nude beaches, what the hell is that all about?)

but it irks me that the government doesn't have to follow the same rules I do, I can't record people in public places, but they've got cameras all around the damned city.

We've got posters everywhere asking you to make a report if you see unusual or suspicious activity.

Yeah, I do, it's all those gits CARRYING GUNS and PUTTING UP FRICKEN CAMERAS that I find highly gorram suspect.

[sardauker]

At food old Times, every farmer had a rifle charged with SALT, and when a parent had a son with a soft, burning as hell injury, he knew his son was is someone's property trying to' steal someone's work. Beating him was the rule.
Sadly, nowadays air rifles can not deliver enough salt.
I have to agree with motion lights and a bucket of somehow smelly or staining water to help identification.
 

[John]

Given that my Jeep was broken into last week and my GPS and power inverter were stolen, I tend to agree with the sentiment.  However, as with anything else, it's the noticeable few that give them all a bad name.

What about sensor lights?  If nothing else, they will serve to alert you of passersby at odd hours and possibly deter anyone from doing anything, when they could easily be seen or identified.

As for videotaping in a public place, is it illegal or merely inadmissible in court?  If it's inadmissible then you can still do it, just don't expect to be able to use it for the police, but there are other ways of doing it.  Communicating with the parents and providing evidence to satisfy their claims means they may take action where the police can't.  You might also want to look into whether or not still images are covered by this- if they were, then no one would be able to take vacation pictures.....

I can't support vigilantism, at least not overtly, but there will be times when it's up to the individual to take responsibility for themselves, their homes and their neighbors.  Finding a way to do it legally may be difficult, but it can be the only way to keep your belongings intact.  Above all else though, keep yourself safe.  Property protection is no excuse for getting hurt and/or killed.

Def

Some good points here 

AFAIK and from a telephone conversation (with police) videoing onto a public path is not allowed  I will be getting a visit from a officer in the next few days,to explain what I can and can't do hmmm! this will be interesting.

Now taking a photo is completely different I don't know why maybe it's because it's a still image 

using a light is a good idea but I'm on the first floor positioning one would be difficult as they use the public path to launch the stones,you're 100% correct protecting my windows is not worth injury or jail time.

Best thing is to get even tougher glass fitted I will speak to my local authority about this option 

[Magic Bus]

Good luck with it all John. I used to live on an estate where this sort of thing was rife and it does nothing for your quality of life 

[John]

Good luck with it all John. I used to live on an estate where this sort of thing was rife and it does nothing for your quality of life 

Thanks mate  and I apologise for being a little sarcastic earlier 


Yeah this is an estate rated the worst in my town,moving is not an option ATM and I'm not the type that runs away either,it'll work out in the end I'm sure 

[Magic Bus]

I admire your positive attitude   

[sappyg]

Yeah, I do, it's all those gits CARRYING GUNS and PUTTING UP FRICKEN CAMERAS that I find highly gorram suspect.

please define "gits" and "gorrum"?

also, who are the "gits" carrying guns?. the police? i thought the police in the UK were mostly unarmed?

[Magic Bus]

Plenty of crims carry guns here sadly