In the post apocolyptic world

[jock1]

He's not actually a wolf, I just call him the "house wolf" because he looks very lupine and is always underfoot!

He is, as good as we can guess because he's a rescue dog, a full blooded Siberian Husky from a working dog line rather than show dog or breeding line.  He's bigger than the breed standard (about two inches at the withers, and about four inches longer nose to tail and about ten pounds heavier) and he actually does have a third outer coat made of longer fur.  I thought he might be part Alaskan Malamute because of his extra size and weight, but I'm reasonably certain that if that was the case, he'd be significantly bigger than he is.

He's wild like a husky though- always up for play, running or a hunt.  At nine years old he's in better shape than most three or four year old dogs and even my vet has a hard time believing he's that old!  He also howls and woo's, which are typical husky traits.  One of these days I'll post some video of him on YouTube for everyone.

And, when you are ready, don't pay alot of money for a dog like this.  Huskies are one of the breeds most often found in animal shelters, and are also one of the highest euthanized in those facilities as well.  They take alot of work and aren't the kind of dog you can take to a park and play fetch with.  They will play with other dogs, but given the chance they will dig under fences, tangle and chew leads and in all cases, they will run like hell and you'll never catch them.

And heaven help you if you have other pets in the house that aren't dogs.  Huskies observe only two categories in nature- dogs and food.  Fish aren't safe, cats aren't safe, birds aren't safe, Hamsters are great snacks... You'd be amazed what a properly motivated Siberian can get into....

Great dogs, but be prepared to change your whole life to accommodate one!  It's worth it, but be warned!

Def

How do they mothers in law?

[Rodion]

Eventually larger and larger groups would coalesce and in time evolve into governments not unlike what we have now.

Richard 

That would imply the current state of affairs is either natural, or efficient. Fact is, the only reason us maggots get anything at all from the upper class' table is cheap and virtually unlimited energy. If, for some reason, this resource dissappeared, we would all see very quickly what the optimal social structure looks like.

[Tarrodemierda]

i have four dogs now and i wish,if something like this apocalypse thread"offers",happens,i could have those furry buddies with me.theres two american stafford terriers,one pitbull/am staff terr.mix and one mixed breed.

[WhichDawg]

I'll be the guy/place with the "still" selling to all of you, trading for all your best stuff and women!

[Tarrodemierda]

the worlds oldest way of making income sure would be popular again i bet

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

the worlds oldest way of making income sure would be popular again i bet

Shame I'm so ugly, guess I'll have to put my prices down

[WhichDawg]

no that's the second oldest M! (they had to get em drunk first!)

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

no that's the second oldest M! (they had to get em drunk first!)

Sorry, my mistake

[Tarrodemierda]

yeah i didnt thought of that too.sorry

there would be grat markets for pimpin,bodyguarding,"protection",mercenaries and stuff indeed.the old world of trades.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

yeah i didnt thought of that too.sorry

there would be grat markets for pimpin,bodyguarding,"protection",mercenaries and stuff indeed.the old world of trades.

I see myself as a Van Dame type charicter from Cyborg (great film)



Come on I've got the Kukri for the job

[Dtrain]

Only bad thing that i can see about us humans gathering together and rebuilding society is that we would end up screwing it up all over again.

Dtrain

[Tarrodemierda]

dtrain u said it,just like i tried to say in my first(?)post.
mankind will never learn a S--t,we´ll repeat all kindsa ecological mistakes,battle for irrerelevant reasons and kill people in name of some god and hidden greed,and kill everything nature,animals and fellow men all over again till the day the world collapses.without humans this world can survive,im afraid.ever since we discovered oil,tight borders,money,cars,electricity,coal etc the world has gone so wrong in increasing speed.few hundred years ago this was a lot better place for a man and nature with its creatures...mostly.even here it started to go wrong when my ancestors came here and drove away own natives and started to chop off woods,hunt animals till they disappeared for ever,started to spil oil and toxic waste in beaches and water,made the ground with water,soil and so on.

in some hundred years there will be parts of world that are like from mad max.with its good and bad sides.but mostly the bad ones i think.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I sorry to say Mikko but your probably right, the technology, for the most part exist to live in relative harmony with nature, but govenments and protectionist industry leaders are ensuring that the world is heading on a constant downward spiral , all the green technology is being bought out and shelfed until the very last drop of oil is extracted from the ground , by which time the delicate eco balance will be irrevocable damaged

The divide between rich and poor, even in so called first world nations is simply vast these days, even a cheap 2 bedroom house in a real armpit area costs £130.000 where I live, and the minimum wage is £5.50 and hour, you do the maths

I predict a greater level of unrest developing over then next few years, and even more restrictive laws to combat them.

It seems we live in interesting times...

[WhichDawg]

your all probably right, but I still think Micky would make a good PimpDaddy!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

your all probably right, but I still think Micky would make a good PimpDaddy!
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Damn straight sucker

[Tarrodemierda]

"
Alienated, isolated defiling a culture profane
Decay and repression interact the arrogant of power,
It remains masked we're arrogant breed
The spawn of the sum of mankind's greed
I'd give anything to be free
Free from the chains of your righteous dream
Oh yeah
Human values marginalized in a throw-away
Society in failure to feel all the worms
They will be revealed
We're arrogant breed
The spawn of the sum of mankind's greed
I'd give anything to be free
Free from the chains of hypocrisy
Oh yeah "


"Our daily lives, a time bomb frustration
In a system we're too
F----d up to destroy
As we circle downwards,
Fast forward our destruction,
All evolution will imploded
Dead-end lives
Our apathy gives power to the system
Its jaws locked in a constant stranglehold
You try to break he chains,
You know it's f----n'useless as the seed
Is planted deep within our souls
Dead-end lives
We cannot change the system without
Changing, drastically, our lives break
The chains within your mind
F--k them and their
Dead-end lives
Our daily lives,
A time bomb of frustration in a system
We must set out to destroy
As we circle downwards,
Fast towards our destruction
Our revolution
Will explode
Dead-end lives"


im in bit of a doubt even for those bio-gas cars,since making the gas by growing ceratin trees,will do harm to other forest etc,and its wild life cause they do these large commercial"forests" that suck up all the water from other green bio structurs and so on.i wish that if a some nuke war,or any warld war III,some drastic biological change,new ice age is about to happen,and any of men survive,that they would be much more viser and settle for a LOT less.i appreciate my grandparents who made it thru the war and they learned during it,and after,till this day,that is good if u have food,warm and shelter,thats enough for them.they dont need sadistic fur clothes,fast vehicles,boob jobs,golden teeth,sky scrapers or any other selfish stuff.ofcourse its  good to collect some useful stuff that makes the daily basis life easier but if u just compete with your neighbour about size of your suv or your show-wifes breasts,its so dumb that u should be put in brainwash

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Couldn't agree with you more mate, materialism is really harming our ability to cope in the lean times a head

[Tarrodemierda]

i hear ya.

here its so sad to see these kids in about age of 10 to 12,that beat other kids from not so rich families,and the only reason to beat and torture them physically and mentally is that the poor ones dont have pair of jeans of certain brand icon,or the cell phone(kids in that age have cells here yes....od...) are older models.the worst scene is whentake as their target some kid with some herited misfunction od deformation,those mean brats call em"retarded f--ks" and all.that is so evil.and what becomes from these selfish greedy kids with no empathy capabilities at all,when they get older.theyll be the ones asking for more and more and more and only thing they see is their own little tan-sprayed bottocks.


and if those will be the spine of mankinds future,id rather see the ice age than a world wih that kind of people

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Very good point, our own youth leaves a hell of a lot to be desired (God I sound old!) but then my generation's not much better, but then we're the Nirvana generation, so we all knew life was gona be crap

[Sea Monster]

There's espresso in the future, right? 

[BIG-TARGET]

Very good point, our own youth leaves a hell of a lot to be desired (God I sound old!) but then my generation's not much better, but then we're the Nirvana generation, so we all knew life was gona be crap

You want old???  I just bought a CD,,,,"the best of the J. Giels Band"


My  blood runs cold,
My memory has just been sold!
My angel is a centerfold..........

[WhichDawg]

"you love her, and she loves him, and he loves somebody else, you just can't win...love stinks....hell yes..."

[BIG-TARGET]

Couldn't agree with you more mate, materialism is really harming our ability to cope in the lean times a head

But that is the whole idea,,, YOU GOT IT!!

[Grant Lamontagne]

your all probably right, but I still think Micky would make a good PimpDaddy!
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Damn straight sucker

You need to carry a Surge to help keep your pimp hand strong!

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

My hands are kept strong by busting rivals

[Grant Lamontagne]

If you carried a Surge, you wouldn't have rivals!

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

If you carried a Surge, you wouldn't have rivals!

Def

Nah the girls would all think I compensating and I'd never get them to work for me

[Dtrain]

Thats right evryone knows real Playas carry SwissTools.

Dtrain

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Thats right evryone knows real Playas carry SwissTools.

Dtrain

This player does

[ringzero]

this was and is intresting topic to me,shame that it seems dead.

Try reading these two SF classics:
"No Blade of Grass" by John Christopher
"Lucifer's Hammer" by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle

In the first book a mutant blight destroys all grass, wheat, barley, rice, etc. across the whole world, leaving only a few staples such as potatoes that humans can subsist on.

In the second book a giant comet impact destroys modern civilization across the world.

Both books follow ordinary people as they flee from dangerous, lawless cities into the countryside.

Both books have characters seeking a place that is both defensible and sufficiently productive to sustain them in the long term.

Both books show how rapidly modern society would descend into lawless, anarchic depravity.

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