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Spanish knife law's?

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Spanish knife law's?
on: November 04, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
A friend from work is thinking of heading to Spain for Christmas, and want's to know if a sak or similar is legal edc over there :think:

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Re: Spanish knife law's?
Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
as I understand it, the laws are quite loose. they aren't as strict as the UK at all.
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Re: Spanish knife law's?
Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 10:40:06 PM
It's good to get a healthy response from the entire Spanish contingent here at Multitool.org... 100% turnout!  What more could you want?  :D

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Re: Spanish knife law's?
Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 07:25:48 AM
I'm just glad the whole Spanish contingent agree :D

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Re: Spanish knife law's?
Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 11:18:31 AM
It seems to depend. In the city, it may be frowned upon.

There does appear to be some limits. The link below seems to relate to historic weapons, but some of it is valid for new ones as well, the google translation is pretty bad, but you get the idea. The breakdown seems to be as long as it's under 11cm blade, and not automatic it seems ok?

There is a .doc at the bottom of this page that has the full law listing (74 pages...)

http://www.spainswords.com/reglamentacion.html
(Google Translated)
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Regarding your email, by consulting various aspects of the old weapons for collectors, among others, we inform you as follows:

ON ANTIQUE WEAPONS:

Arms Regulation (RA) approved by Royal Decree 137/1993 of 29 January, on items that affect white weapons in relevant part, provides:

CLASSIFICATION:

Article 3 .-
5 th class:
1 .- weapons and generally sharp or sharp blade not prohibited.

Article 106:
The manufacture, importation and marketing of weapons of the 5 th category (weapons) will be operated by the Civil Guard to prevent the prohibited. To this end, manufacturers, importers and dealers should inform the Civil Guard types and characteristics of the weapons manufactured or imported, and the operations performed annually. Civil Guard may inspect, as often as it sees fit, the different rooms where they conduct business that are part of the process of manufacture, import or marketing. The acquisition and possession of weapons of category 5 th one is free to seniors.

Article 5.3 of RA on the interest you have:
The use by individuals with knives, machetes and other weapons that are part of arms duly approved by competent authorities or bodies. Its sale will require the presentation and annotation of the document certifying the position or status of persons entitled to the use of such weapons.
It also prohibits the marketing, advertising, sale, possession and use of automatic knives with a blade not exceeding 11 inches, measured from the rim or top of the handle to the end.

Not be considered included in the foregoing prohibitions, manufacture and marketing intervention of the Guardia Civil, in the manner prescribed in Articles 12.2 (prior notification to the Directorate General of Civil Guard on opening, modification or relocation of factories) and 106 (weapons) of this Regulation, the sale and possession in the home solely for purposes of ornament and collectibles, the automatic knife with a blade not exceeding 11 centimeters.

Article 146 (TENURE AND USE)
1. It is forbidden to carry, display and use outside the home, workplace, if any, or for sports, any kind of handguns and knives, especially those with pointed blade and arms in general of categories 5, 6 th and 7 th. Is the prudent approach of the authorities and their agents to determine whether the carrier has weapons or not need to carry them, as occasion, time or circumstances especially when it comes to weapons Licensed B, for security reasons.
2. Shall in general be estimated illegal the wearing or use weapons those attending public institutions and places of assembly, assembly, recreation or entertainment, and in any case they had been convicted of crimes or misdemeanors against persons or property or misuse of weapons or sanction for violation of this regulation.

Article 149
1. Bear arms can only be regulated by urban roads and public places, and dismantled or in boxes or bags, during the journey from the places where they usually are stored or deposited to the places where activities are carried out properly authorized use.
2. Weapons may only be used in the estates, galleries or ranges and in fields or areas suitable for the exercise of hunting, fishing or other sporting activities.

Regarding the topic at hand, the Permanent Inter-ministerial Committee on Firearms and Explosives (CIPAE) issued the following reports:

On 13/07/1993:
"That except in the case of military weapons or prohibited by any other reason, consider a brand knives as weapons ... permitted and subject to the provisions of Articles 106 and 146 of the Regulation of Arms and can not be considered banned in Spain by the fact that regulations in a military or foreign organization. "

19/04/1994:
1 .- "That the weapons that are more than 11 centimeters of leaf blades and are not, could not be prohibited. However, both to acquire for their use and possession, be taken into account in this regard prevented by Articles 146 and 149.1 and 2 of the current Arms Regulations.
2 .- imitations of weapons used in military or police weapons are prohibited to individuals. As regards other weapons can not establish a general rule, should be documented and considered each individual case that arises. "

Under the provisions of the legislation presented, which affects the subject matter, the Central Inspectorate for Explosives, Weapons and Civil Guard believes that:

The wording of the legislation that affects exposed and the subject matter, and reports issued by CIPA, the acquisition and possession of weapons covered by the category 5 ª .1 of Article 3 of Regulation of Arms is free to seniors, provided they do not seek weapons of war or who were prohibited for any other reason, because the prohibition extends to the private use of knives, machetes and other weapons that are part of arms duly approved by authorities or bodies. It is forbidden to carry, display and use away from home, work or sports activities for the weapons.

 

If the weapon is designed for decoration and collection, could also be included as a weapon in Category 5 ª .1 of Article 3 of the Arms Regulations. While not essential characteristics are known to have considered for proper classification, as it might be that were endowed with some kind of automation for its opening, the blade length, whether or not to double-edged, etc., Which may incur as provided for banned weapons.

Article 3 of the Regulation of Firearms (RA), ancient weapons, classifies the following categories:

6. First class:
1. Antique firearms or historical reproductions thereof and the like, preserved in museums authorized by the Ministry of Defence, if they are dependent on any of the three hosts, and the Ministry of Interior, in other cases.
2. The firearms whose model or year of manufacture prior to January 1, 1870, and reproductions or replicas of them, unless they can shoot ammunition for military weapons or prohibited weapons.
Seniority shall be determined by the Ministry of Defence, which approved the prototypes or copies of the original notice to the Directorate General of the Guardia Civil.
3. The other firearms that are kept for historical or artistic nature, fulfilling the laid down in Articles 107 and 108 (deactivation) of this Regulation.
4. In general, muzzleloader.

WEAPONS HISTORICAL AND ARTISTIC:

Article. 107: RA (in the affected part) .- The use and possession of firearms in categories 6. Nd and 7. Rd, 4, is adapted to the following requirements:

a). Not require the muzzleloader license or other antique firearms, historical or artistic works which are recorded in the logbook referred to below and which are preserved in museums or dealers who are holders of collectors or purpose agencies cultural, historical or artistic in weapons, recognized as such by the Ministry of Interior. The awards will be made in proceedings conducted at the request of those concerned by the Directorate General of Civil Guard, for the accreditation of their identity and, in the case of legal persons, their legal constitution of the suitability of the property and for dealers for the storage of weapons, and the adoption of security measures for safekeeping, which shall be deemed sufficient by the Directorate General. The corresponding for Arms may at any time the presence of weapons and the effectiveness of security measures.

b). Natural persons and legal muzzleloader collectors or other antique firearms, historical or artistic reproductions thereof and the like, or not susceptible to fire, and weapons system "Flobert 'may possess legally if they have enrolled in a Paper-Registration Statement endorsement by the respective arms, which recorded the ups and downs. The use of weapons registered in the Register. For the movement and transport will require special guidance to be issued in each case, the intervention arms, in view of the details contained in the book, stating the specific destination.

"Article 4.2 of the RA approved by Royal Decree 137/1993 of 29 January, states:

Shall not be deemed prohibited the possession of the weapons listed in this article by museums, collectors or agencies referred to in Article 107, the requirements and conditions determined therein. "

Therefore, the Central Firearms Intervention and Explosives Directorate General of Civil Guard, does not appreciate objection to the prohibited weapons envisaged in Article 4 may be possessed if they are properly registered in a logbook with the requirements and conditions provided in Article 107 of RA

With regard to trade, import and export of weapons of the 5 th category, falls within the general scheme of goods, so that will need the legal and regulatory requirements that apply.

The weapons could be subject to consultation of weapons classified under a category 5 th Article 3 of RA, so it is considered that there is no obstacle to the acquisition and possession, being free to seniors, as has the Art º. 106 of RA

However, be taken into account the lengths of leaves and where these are double-edged, in order to be able to consider such as daggers, or if the handles hiding other weapons, a hypothesis that would lead to classify them as prohibited weapons to Art. 4.1.f) of RA

In regard to the "weapons" used for sporting purposes, such as fencing foils or the like, tell him:

These are tools used in sports that applied to certain parts of the human body can cause different effects, even to neutralize the opponent (if the Kubota).

Those not classified as a weapon, as are the majority, except for katanas, neither more danger to his tenure than any other object of similar characteristics, its danger lies in the use against people and perfectly trained individuals.

Intervention by the foregoing Central Firearms and Explosives believes that these instruments can not be considered as prohibited weapons, since it is not expressly mentioned in Articles 4 and 5 of the Regulation of Firearms, possession therefore would not be linked to the legal text.

The possible infringement, which could make the possession of that object would have to be found in Article 26.g) of the Organic Law 1 / 92 of 21 February on the Protection of Public Safety (Display of dangerous objects physical integrity of persons with the aim of causing intimidation), if the assumptions are met in the same feature.

On these tools, we should underline mentioned in Article 149 of RA, in terms that can only be used in sports facilities and exclusively entitled to do this purpose.

From the foregoing, it follows (specifying their questions) that does not need to have a ger-registration stating the old weapons that have as an ornament or collecting, as it referred to antique firearms collector makes no mention to them but to those mentioned in Article 107. If you only have in your home with these effects, ornament or collectibles, and is of age, his tenure could be considered perfectly legal.

Due to the large number of articles of RA that are applicable to queries raised and the complexity of them, as well as in connection with the assessment that is required to specify the requirements that you meet the specific characteristics of weapons and use or purpose to be made of them, we suggest you to go to the Arms and Explosives intervention of the Guardia Civil that corresponds to their place of residence, as well as being the place through which to channel all the paperwork necessary administrative activities to do with weapons, we can advise on all and any doubts that may arise.

This paper is for informational purposes only, not put an end to the proceedings and is not an act described in Article 107 of Law 30/1992 of 26 November on the Legal Regime of Public Administrations and Common Administrative Procedure as against the same can not be appealed

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Re: Spanish knife law's?
Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Just what I was after :tu:

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