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How builds their own computer?
on: April 14, 2011, 11:44:11 PM
I just upgraded most of my hardware and felt that it would be appropriate to share with you what I got and also taking a look inside your cabinet.

Motherboard: Asus P8P67
CPU: Intel i7-2600K
RAM: 6GB 1600MHz
Graphics card: ASUS GeForce GTS 250 Dark Knight
PSU: Mist 800w
CPU fan: Noctua NH-D14
BD/DVD drive: Lite-on IHBS112-37
HDD: Maxtor 300GB. Western Digital Caviar green 1.5 TB. Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB.

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 11:57:16 PM
Why have the 300 GB drive in there with the TB big bro's?

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 11:57:48 PM
Nice clean looking machine.

I don't build machines anymore- canned systems are pretty good and low priced these days.  At most I'll open up a canned system and make some modifications like new RAM, video card etc.

Of course there's not much left of the original desktop I have, so maybe I'd have saved a lot of time if I'd just built my own in the first place!

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on April 14, 2011, 11:57:16 PM
Why have the 300 GB drive in there with the TB big bro's?

It's a HDD that is dedicated to just the OS and don't need a huge drive for that, read somewhere a couple of years back that it was better to have a small HDD where the OS was rather than having a huge HDD where you stored all the stuff you have on one drive, the more stuff you have on the HDD where the OS the slower it gets so therefore it's better to have all the other stuff on other HDD's. Besides, if the HDD with the OS on says good night I still have all my pics, movies and other stuff on another HDD and vice versa.
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 12:58:26 AM
When I get the money to build a new comp, I'm thinking of getting a small (like 50 gig) SSD for the OS to fly on, and put everything else on a larger separate drive.

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 05:16:26 AM
you could just have a smaller partition for the OS... Depending on the disks, some larger ones rate better than older, smaller disks...

SSD for the OS would be great!
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 07:12:49 AM
Quote from: thebullfrog on April 15, 2011, 12:58:26 AM
When I get the money to build a new comp, I'm thinking of getting a small (like 50 gig) SSD for the OS to fly on, and put everything else on a larger separate drive.

Been thinking about the same thing :)
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 12:12:49 PM
I build them myself. These are my computers right now: http://tweakers.net/gallery/3140#tab:inventaris

Quote from: thebullfrog on April 15, 2011, 12:58:26 AM
When I get the money to build a new comp, I'm thinking of getting a small (like 50 gig) SSD for the OS to fly on, and put everything else on a larger separate drive.

I have a 64GB SSD in my desktop. I love it :D
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
I build my own. There are a lot of parts you can get cheap second hand. I have 4 computers in my home and all exept for the laptop were my builds. I made myself a server two years ago for 30 usd that way. Ok, I paid a little extra for the hard drives. :D It has been running 24/7 ever since. I have it in the attic so it doesn't bother me. It's a storage unit for all my files, music, films,... Ftp server, remote desktop, download station. I have a printer connected to it with a looong usb cable which I use as a network printer. It saved me a lot of times because I often forget my work at home and now have the ability to get my files from anywere in the world.
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 05:53:40 AM
I mostly build my own systems. I enjoy the research involved, the planning, and even the building. However, due to my being very busy on other projects, I let a good friend who owns a computer shop do much of the physical build. He was very surprised that I let him this time, but I still managed to do a few things simply because I had a difficult time letting someone else have most of the fun with the physical build.

Here is my inside photo...not as neat as your machine.



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-   AMD Black Edition Phenom II X6 1090T CPU.
-   Corsair 8GB memory kit XMS3 PC3-10600 (1333MHz) DDR3.
-   Asus M4A89TD Pro/USB 3 motherboard.
-   OCZ Vertex 2 50GB solid state boot drive.
-   1 Western Digital Black 2TB hard drive.
-   2 Western Digital 300GB Velociraptors.
-   Thermaltake TR2 RX 1000W power supply.
-   Asus Nvidia GTX 470 video card.
-   Windows 7 Home 64 Bit edition.
-   Scythe Mugen 2 CPU cooler.
-   Soundblaster XFi Fatality Platinum.
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 06:44:25 AM
I used to build my own, I don't any more mostly because I don't really game any more.  No point getting top of the line if I'm just using it posting on internet forums and work.

Oh, and streaming hockey

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #11 on: April 16, 2011, 06:55:32 AM
i built mine...i'm about ready to place it under the front tyre of my jeep and crush the $#@!%$ out of it.  Ive been chasing a faulty graphics error for a while. crash crash crash :rant: :rant: :rant:
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
Wife's machine died yesterday just before her show... so we hiked off to PC City and took advantage of the 25% off going out of business/bankruptcy sale... nothing special, Medion branded Intel dual core... there's probably little wrong with the old system apart from WinXP being a POS or the HD is beyond corrupted... anyways... piles of re-installing/setup to do... plus I need to figure out how to redistribute our hard-disks... as it seems we're now out of machines that have IDE controllers, and it seems like such a waste to not use 2x 500GB disks...
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
I assemble/build my own PCs as well...  Many of them are still alive and kicking after so many years, fortunately. :)

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Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: Whoey on April 16, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
Wife's machine died yesterday just before her show... so we hiked off to PC City and took advantage of the 25% off going out of business/bankruptcy sale... nothing special, Medion branded Intel dual core... there's probably little wrong with the old system apart from WinXP being a POS or the HD is beyond corrupted... anyways... piles of re-installing/setup to do... plus I need to figure out how to redistribute our hard-disks... as it seems we're now out of machines that have IDE controllers, and it seems like such a waste to not use 2x 500GB disks...

Had a problem with a couple of my parent's computers, I ended up getting a PCI IDE controller off of the 'bay for like $8.  Works perfectly if you have the room.

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Reply #15 on: April 16, 2011, 09:48:31 PM
that'd be great, I have a PCI IDE controller laying around somewhere... unfortunately no PCI slots... I was hoping for at least one for the Creative Soundblaster LIVE! with front media bay from her old setup... but it's not happening. Guess I shouldn't expect much for a budget system.
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Reply #16 on: April 16, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Well, as a last resort external IDE USB casings are stupid cheap as well.  Could use attach 'em to a standalone network controller and use them as a network storage drive or just as desktop backups.

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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 03:19:23 AM
Quote from: Whoey on April 16, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
... as it seems we're now out of machines that have IDE controllers, and it seems like such a waste to not use 2x 500GB disks...

Wouldn't something like this help you?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-1-IDE-SATA-SATA-IDE-Converter-Adapter-A45-/320633451892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73e3574
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Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 09:00:36 AM
spec says max 160gb, although I doubt that's the case I had already thought about such devices. I do have some usb2ide external cases I can use as well...
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Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
I build systems for others, but the last one I built for myself was in 2005.  I still have that one, but I use a notebook for everything these days.  The notebook does everything a desktop does and more, and I like not having to synchronize files.  I don't game as much as I used to, and if I do, I don't play games that require a lot of GPU power.  Spending $500-600 to upgrade to a new laptop every couple of years keeps me happy.

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Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: Whoey on April 17, 2011, 09:00:36 AM
spec says max 160gb, although I doubt that's the case I had already thought about such devices. I do have some usb2ide external cases I can use as well...

I didn't notice that 160gb spec but I used one of those to connect a 640gb sata HDD to an ide slot. So it should work.
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Reply #21 on: April 17, 2011, 09:29:30 PM
Been looking at a pile of solutions to the issues we have with the new PC... two big ones are:

losing 2x 500gb IDE drives, which as you mention some sort of IDE2SATA adapter or a pci express sata/ide combo card, the latter sounding more likely as not only is it good for 2x ide, but most seem to have an SATA internal and external...

The second, most annoying of the two, we did not check to see if the machine had PCI slots... and the reason we need at least one is that we have an old Creative Soundblaster LIVE! with front bay... it helps a lot for our broadcast setup giving us loads of extra connections and easy level control.

The solution is kind of ironic... my inlaws 2nd PC also is having issues, so they're snapping up the one we got, and I get to go shopping again for a new one for us... this time will make sure it at least has one PCI slot if not more... I can also use the PCI IDE controller I have in this machine, as I have a few free PCI slots and liberate a 500gb SATA from here to whatever the wife gets... phew... this is going to be a rough week... go shopping for a PC, build/launch a website for a client, and try to rebuild the wife's machine, prepare the other for the inlaws to use... and work 3x 8h shifts... (14-22) oh and I think there's more MTO related stuff for me to look at... not to mention trying to watch (on demand via ESPN Player) the Canadian teams progress in the Stanley Cup Playoffs...
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Reply #22 on: April 21, 2011, 08:12:45 PM
blarg... upgrading...

After fighting to get a PC with a PCI slot, found out that Creative no longer supports Soundblaster LIVE! with Live Bay II... at least not for win 7. On the upside, I had a Audigy 2 ZS laying around, which does have drivers, and is now happily bleeping away in the new machine... while 300gb of files copies off the external USB

Also, our ancient yet solid HP Laserjet 1000 also does not seem to have Win 7 x64 support. This irritates me even more since I literally just spent ~50eur on a new toner cartridge for it...
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Reply #23 on: April 22, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
I actually just ordered all the parts for a new build yesterday. Had to cut some corners from what I wanted, but it should be a good foundation for upgrades.
AMD Phenom II x4 black  (3.2 ghz)
Radeon HD 5850
4 gigs 1333mhz DDR3 RAM
500 gig 7200 RPM drive

Its all scheduled to be here Mon and Teus. Teus night will be a good day. Unless it goes bad and something doesn't work lol.

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Reply #24 on: April 22, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
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Also, our ancient yet solid HP Laserjet 1000 also does not seem to have Win 7 x64 support. This irritates me even more since I literally just spent ~50eur on a new toner cartridge for it...

If you upgraded to the 32-bit version of Windows 7 you can use the Vista drivers from HP to run the Laserjet.  Just download the driver package (not the full software package!) from HP, expand the file and manually install the drivers using Device Manager -> Update Driver.

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Reply #25 on: April 23, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
My Soundblaster Fatality X Fi Titanium just gave up the ghost in my new build. Working fine one day, the next, all I get is cross talk from my speakers. I have tried everything and figured out it's a hardware issue.

Now I will need to get a new soundcard after this holiday weekend. Just not so sure I wish to get another one as I have had nothing but bad luck with this lemon card.  :think:
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Reply #26 on: April 23, 2011, 05:38:49 PM
Just discovered the mobo I ordered (not here yet) only has a connection for one additional case fan. My case has 4 fans and space for a fifth... Guess I'm gonna "have" to get me a nice fancy external fan controller with shiny lights...darn  :D

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Reply #27 on: April 25, 2011, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: jekostas on April 22, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Whoey on April 21, 2011, 08:12:45 PM
Also, our ancient yet solid HP Laserjet 1000 also does not seem to have Win 7 x64 support. This irritates me even more since I literally just spent ~50eur on a new toner cartridge for it...

If you upgraded to the 32-bit version of Windows 7 you can use the Vista drivers from HP to run the Laserjet.  Just download the driver package (not the full software package!) from HP, expand the file and manually install the drivers using Device Manager -> Update Driver.

downgrading to 32bit from the 64 bit bundled would kind of be pointless as I'd have 1gb of ram that is useless/unused since a 32bit OS can only address 4GB total, and since the video card has 1gb, plus the 4gb of the system...

I saw loads of posts about getting it to work on a 32bit install... my point is, there's never been 64 bit windows drivers at all... not xp, vista or win 7, and therein lies the issue. The printer however seems to work fine on my 64bit Ubuntu install... so it's not a total loss yet...
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Also, our ancient yet solid HP Laserjet 1000 also does not seem to have Win 7 x64 support. This irritates me even more since I literally just spent ~50eur on a new toner cartridge for it...

If you upgraded to the 32-bit version of Windows 7 you can use the Vista drivers from HP to run the Laserjet.  Just download the driver package (not the full software package!) from HP, expand the file and manually install the drivers using Device Manager -> Update Driver.

downgrading to 32bit from the 64 bit bundled would kind of be pointless as I'd have 1gb of ram that is useless/unused since a 32bit OS can only address 4GB total, and since the video card has 1gb, plus the 4gb of the system...

I saw loads of posts about getting it to work on a 32bit install... my point is, there's never been 64 bit windows drivers at all... not xp, vista or win 7, and therein lies the issue. The printer however seems to work fine on my 64bit Ubuntu install... so it's not a total loss yet...

How about running a virtualbox with a 32 bit OS?

Quote from: NutSAK on April 17, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
You mention using your 300MB disk for your OS...  Larger hard drives nearly always have better data transfer rates than a small one, at least if the rotational speed and number of platters is the same between the two.  The larger hard drive will have higher areal density, so the head can read more data with each rotation, especially on the outer tracks of the disk.  Also, a small partition (in relation to disk size) in the outer tracks will provide a better average transfer rate than a larger relative partition that takes up a higher percentage of the disk.

The HDD with the OS on is 5 years old and it have served me well so far, but you are quite right about the transfer rate between the 300 GB disc and the 2 TB disc that is the newest. So the next component I am going to buy is a SSD disc
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Re: How builds their own computer?
Reply #29 on: April 26, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
seems like a lot of work just to print.
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