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What a Rescue Knife should be
« on: February 17, 2012, 12:54:40 AM »
While this one is far from perfect, the Seber Ratcheting Rescue Knife is a lot more substantial than most of the so called Rescue Tools on the market. 



This thing is a tank, and it weighs almost as much as one anyway.  But, if you've ever had the joy of dressing up like a fireman, you know that with the jackets, pants, boots, helmets and oxygen tanks they wear, a few extra ounces is not a big deal.  Besides, a certain amount of heft to a tool reminds them they haven't dropped the knife, so in this case it's a good thing.



The neat thing about this tool is the ratcheting mechanism.  The switch you see on the bolster has three positions- open, lock and close.  When the switch is pointed towards the blade end the blade opens up with a clicking noise as the teeth inside let the blade open freely.  At any point the blade can be stopped and locked in that position by moving the switch into the center position.  With the switch in the middle position the blade won't open or close any further.



This can come in handy when trying to cut hose or slice clothing off an injured person.  To allow the blade to close, just move the switch all the way back toward the pommel.



Admittedly a tanto point is probably not best for cutting away clothing, but they do have other blade styles but I liked the cool tactical camouflage blade, so I got this one!  :D



This knife also features a small strap cutting blade near the butt end meaning you can avoid stabbing the injured person while helping them even if you got the tanto like I did.  :D



There's also a pretty hefty glass breaking tip on the butt, and given the heft of this knife I would imagine it could shatter just about any glass.



Sadly my neighbors sleep too lightly to test the glass breaker properly, so I'll just have to say that it should work given the heft and the typical shatterability of the average sheet of glass.  :D



Summing up, unlike some rescue tools this one is hefty, solid and not overly fiddly, and therefore would actually be useful to a first responder type.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 04:58:03 PM »
Neat Knife!

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 05:42:24 PM »
What I'm really wondering about is how well the strap cutter works. I have an Eickhorn rescue knife with a similar design and the cutter is pretty much useless.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 08:04:37 PM »
I don't know..My "Rescue Knife" is my Vic Rescuetool it has a dedicated blade, I have never really messed with a knife with a cutter like that

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 07:34:04 AM »
Hey I have one of those......... Well not really. Looks similar though. That is if you take into account that mine is a piece of junk knockoff.  :D



They do look similar though. The glass breaker is in a different spot and mine does not have the 3 position switch on it.


Any idea what I could use to tighten the blade? I remember when I got it years ago I bent a fork to fit the four holes. It actually worked but not very well. I might take mine completely apart and clean it up.  :think:










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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 06:50:51 PM »
Yeah I think the dedicated blades are a much better solution. For a tool that's primarily a knife I think I like Benchmade's solution with the Triage a lot better. This knife at least looks like it puts the cutter at a decent angle, on my knife it's almost directly perpendicular to the opening and that makes it work very poorly.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 12:02:07 PM »
I think the pointy tip is a throwback on a rescue knife, my opinion at least! That's why i like so much the Gerber Hinderer Rescue with its fat blunt tip which cn be used to pry if needed! :salute:

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 07:58:20 PM »
got to chuckle at a knife called a Hinderer that's supposed to help :D
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 11:39:44 AM »
got to chuckle at a knife called a Hinderer that's supposed to help :D
lol  :rofl: i just used watched for the meaning, i didn't know what it meant!  :D

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 11:55:28 AM »
got to chuckle at a knife called a Hinderer that's supposed to help :D
lol  :rofl: i just watched for the meaning, i didn't know what it meant!  :D

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 05:43:24 PM »
In my 30 years in the fire service I have never; 1) cut anyone out of a seatbelt, 2) needed a window punch or 3) used a knife to remove clothing. It's been my experience that we bring a lot of specialized tools to every scene and use them with great vigor. If I need to remove clothing, I use a pair of trauma shears. If I need to cut a seatbelt (or anything else) I use my knife. If I need to punch out a window...well, I've never been faced with that scenario as there are usually many other broken windows to choose from. I believe these types of knives are a marketing gimmick, just like the Rambo knives of the 80's...and about as useful.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »
In my 30 years in the fire service I have never; 1) cut anyone out of a seatbelt, 2) needed a window punch or 3) used a knife to remove clothing. It's been my experience that we bring a lot of specialized tools to every scene and use them with great vigor. If I need to remove clothing, I use a pair of trauma shears. If I need to cut a seatbelt (or anything else) I use my knife. If I need to punch out a window...well, I've never been faced with that scenario as there are usually many other broken windows to choose from. I believe these types of knives are a marketing gimmick, just like the Rambo knives of the 80's...and about as useful.

In my opinion, these tools are meant for the person inside the vehicle, no matter how they are advertized

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 09:40:49 PM »
In my 30 years in the fire service I have never; 1) cut anyone out of a seatbelt, 2) needed a window punch or 3) used a knife to remove clothing. It's been my experience that we bring a lot of specialized tools to every scene and use them with great vigor. If I need to remove clothing, I use a pair of trauma shears. If I need to cut a seatbelt (or anything else) I use my knife. If I need to punch out a window...well, I've never been faced with that scenario as there are usually many other broken windows to choose from. I believe these types of knives are a marketing gimmick, just like the Rambo knives of the 80's...and about as useful.

In my opinion, these tools are meant for the person inside the vehicle, no matter how they are advertized


This...


Might also be targeted at off-duty first responders? I mean, normally you have all the tools, but off duty finding an accident, I'm sure you're gonna  want to help...

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2013, 11:04:49 PM »
How often are you trying to break in to a car that isn't already broken? Isn't it either going to be in a decent enough state that you can open the door or in a mangled enough state that the windows are smashed?
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 03:39:35 PM »
How often are you trying to break in to a car that isn't already broken? Isn't it either going to be in a decent enough state that you can open the door or in a mangled enough state that the windows are smashed?

Once is enough. We came across a car upside down in the ditch one night. One side of the car was against the side of the ditch and the other had thick bushes. The windshield was glazed but all glass was intact. We ended up breaking the back window with a baton so the paramedics could go in to pull him out of the car.
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 03:40:16 PM »
Did you buy the knife locally Grant?
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2013, 05:57:17 PM »
I actually purchased this knife directly from Seber at the SHOT Show a few years back.  I don't think I have ever seen them for sale anywhere, but then there aren't a lot of really good dedicated knife dealers in Canada.

Most of these things I buy through online dealers that I know, eBay, other members here or at shows like SHOT.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 02:22:54 PM »
I just got myself a Leatherman Z-Rex, I personally like the design and feel of the Z-Rex, however yours looks more compact and can be carried in your pocket. Have you tested the Seat belt cutter yet?

Here in Western Australia knives including folders are not allowed unless you can explain the reason (other than self defense) how and why you use. So for me the Z-Rex meets my needs...

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 04:53:31 PM »
Now many Years ago one night as I drove my Truck I did stop at an accident I witnessed and did have to cut a seatbelt, but I used my Benchmade Ambush..I did not now about Rescue Blades at that time..However I was very careful with the tip and edge.. I wish Cold Steel would offer my Spartan or small Rajah III with a Breaker on the end

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2014, 10:06:41 AM »
Well said that Seber Ratcheting Rescue Knife are best of all other rescue knives in the market. But I have this "Magnum Rescue Knife" and I am quite with it. It is a good cutting tool as seat belt cutter and liner lock. This is quite easy to carry with a special feature of folding.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2014, 11:36:48 AM »
@dipti, is the Magnum Rescue Knife OHO or 2HO? Gotta say, the Magnum and the Seber bears alot of resemblance to the one I'm about to buy, although mine is 2HO without lock.
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2014, 12:50:36 PM »
I just got myself a Leatherman Z-Rex, I personally like the design and feel of the Z-Rex, however yours looks more compact and can be carried in your pocket. Have you tested the Seat belt cutter yet?

Here in Western Australia knives including folders are not allowed unless you can explain the reason (other than self defense) how and why you use. So for me the Z-Rex meets my needs...


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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2014, 08:00:52 AM »
The best "rescue knife" is the knife you carry all the time. Cutting seat belts or roof panels with my Spartan or Rajah 2 is easy. To break glass, I would use my SOG multi-tool. Removing clothes from a body with any open blade is dangerous! Emergency shears should be used for this. Strap cutters can snag on seams, causing further damage to the wounded area. 

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2014, 01:53:13 AM »
I agree..I have a Vic Rescuetool, which I believe would do a fine job, but after carrying it for an extended period I realized to have the Dedicated Rescuetool I gave up a lot of Utility..

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2014, 07:03:11 AM »
what a rescue tool should be;

i am a medical rescue professional, a rescue tool must have a serrated blade, a flat screwdriver (prying tool) and may have pliers, a sharp reamer and a keyring-carabiner to attach to your belt. also it can be used with gloves, nedical or thick protective gloves.
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2014, 11:34:20 AM »
I can't argue with any of the above, especially coming from an actual rescue worker.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2014, 06:06:31 AM »
According to me, Rescue knives should be helpful in survival situations where you find yourself in some dangerous circumstances.

If I need to pick some good EDC tools.
Then I would take my love leatherman multi tool wave and a flash light. Other are just a waste !!!
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2014, 11:54:23 AM »
That definition sounds more like a survival type knife.  Rescue knives are generally considered the type used by first responder types to accident scene and the like.

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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2015, 11:29:55 PM »
as
That definition sounds more like a survival type knife.  Rescue knives are generally considered the type used by first responder types to accident scene and the like.

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i agree, survival knives and rescue knives are very different subjects, first is for saving your life, second is for rescuing others..
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Re: What a Rescue Knife should be
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2015, 07:53:41 AM »
This folding knife looks a bit tactical and I think that its perfect to show to your friends.
That's a cool folder to have.
Thanks for sharing

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