Pocket Powerplier any good?

[Sjoqvist]

Hi,
I'm looking for a lightweight MT with a decent set of pliers (the other tools don't matter alot since I tend to modify my MTs anyways )

Maybe the SOG PPP is a good choice? How is the quality compared to a Leatherman?

Also, if anyone have ideas for another lightweight plier-based MT, please tell me
Something with a slightly bigger set of pliers than a LM Juice under 5oz would be great, but I don't know if a tool like that exists

[Zed]

Ive not had a ppp but the paratool is a fantastic MT, ive pretty much always had LM's but this is my main carry these days, fits the pocket nicely as say a pst does, a lttle fiddly at first but once you have opened it a few times there is no problem, plus as all sogs MT you can replace and add tools as ive done, i added the V-cutter and wood saw, very nice tool 



size comparison next to a vic explorer,

[Grant Lamontagne]

Quality wise I think the SOG plier heads are much better than Leatherman, but that makes sense as they have to be since the compound leverage applies more pressure (theoretically) on the head than any other multitool so they have to be built stronger.  It's also what sets SOG tools apart in the industry, so they probably go above and beyond to make them beefier.

The inner tools don't usually have the same fit and finish as most Leathermans, but again that is by design.  Since SOG tools are designed with modification in mind, the tolerances are lower to allow user to take them apart and re-assemble them easier.

The Pocket Power Plier suffers from a couple of flaws- first off the compound leverage may or may not be useful to you depending on your needs and the size of your hands.  You don't get anything for free, and to benefit from the compound leverage the handles need to travel twice as far, which means basically to grab the same size nut the handles on a SOG need to be further apart than with other multitools, which is bad for folks like me with fairly small hands.

Also, the compound leverage allows you to put greater pressure on the pliers, but the downside to that is the exposed sheet metal edges really dig into your hand, making you want to put less pressure on them.  The larger PowerLock series has handle covers to keep you from hurting your hands, but the Pocket Power Plier does not.

Overall it's a good tool and I like it a lot, but the handle issues can be significant if you are a heavy plier user.

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

Quality wise I think the SOG plier heads are much better than Leatherman, but that makes sense as they have to be since the compound leverage applies more pressure (theoretically) on the head than any other multitool so they have to be built stronger.  It's also what sets SOG tools apart in the industry, so they probably go above and beyond to make them beefier.

The inner tools don't usually have the same fit and finish as most Leathermans, but again that is by design.  Since SOG tools are designed with modification in mind, the tolerances are lower to allow user to take them apart and re-assemble them easier.

The Pocket Power Plier suffers from a couple of flaws- first off the compound leverage may or may not be useful to you depending on your needs and the size of your hands.  You don't get anything for free, and to benefit from the compound leverage the handles need to travel twice as far, which means basically to grab the same size nut the handles on a SOG need to be further apart than with other multitools, which is bad for folks like me with fairly small hands.

Also, the compound leverage allows you to put greater pressure on the pliers, but the downside to that is the exposed sheet metal edges really dig into your hand, making you want to put less pressure on them.  The larger PowerLock series has handle covers to keep you from hurting your hands, but the Pocket Power Plier does not.

Overall it's a good tool and I like it a lot, but the handle issues can be significant if you are a heavy plier user.

Def

I think Grant's pretty much nailed it here, but I will add a couple of thoughts. I carried a PPP for quite a while and found it a very "me friendly" tool. I too have small hands, but don't tend to have to grip anything large with pliers so gripping force rather than jaw opening tends to be priority. The compound leverage I feel more than overcomes the discomfort from the metal edges, and also the splayed handles on larger jobs. Both those reduce the amount of force you can put on the handles, but the compond leverage means less force is needed.

The inner tools I found to be good enough. Sure there's better on other tools, but SOG tools do work and will do what you need them to. Bottom line - is the PPP any good? Too right - BUT the Paladin PT-510 is BETTER.

It's still a SOG along the same lines, but with a better shaped plier head IMHO, and also has gear covers which removes the PPP's other downside of those gears sticking in your palms when using drivers/awl etc. My PT-510 has been enhanced with the inclusion of scissors and a diamond file from a Leatherman PST II, and I now call it the PPPP (Perfect Pocket Power Plier) 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Too.... much.... P...

 

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

Too.... much.... P...

 

Def

 

People normally say I'm full of too much of the other stuff 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Vinegar?   

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

No, that's Tony's department 

 

[Sjoqvist]

Thanks for the fast replies , I really like you guys

From what I understand, the PT-510 weighs 210g (7.4oz) (correct me if I'm wrong) and I feel like that is way to much to carry around in my pocket all day long. The PPP's weight (5.5oz) is in my eyes almost too heavy

If the Juice was slightly bigger and had a slightly bigger set of pliers, I would go for that, but meeh, they are tiny

[AimlessWanderer]

If you alter the tool load out in the handles the weight alters 
SOG haven't managed to defy gravity yet 

I think the base weight for the two items (included toolset aside) are quite comparable 

[Sjoqvist]

That is very true I have that feeling again...the one that hurts your wallet

[AHB]

That is very true I have that feeling again...the one that hurts your wallet

Not necessarily.. Pm inbound.. 

[dks]

Also bear in mind that as you go from a pocket to a standard SOG piers tool, you do get bigger pliers, but the size of the inside tools remains the same. So do not expect, e.g., a larger blade on a larger tool.

[badwolf]

Vinegar?   

Def

VHTF not quite them same anyway, the PPP would be worth trying and the Paladin would give you the comfy option

[Farmman]

I gained for Al upgrading to paladin and also his generosity. I now carry his ppp in my rotation. A great tool and also no where near as expensive as a leatherman.

[Jors]

I ordered the SOG S44-N Pocket PowerPlier, together with the SOG CC51-CP CrossCut Multi-Tool, Satin today. It was something I wanted to do for quite some time. I am going to add some more tools in the empty space in the handles. I made the decision after inspecting one personally. I was also influenced by the owner's opinion. He also has a Charge TTI. He uses the SOG as EDC and add the Charge TTI when he deployes for active duty as a Disaster Risk Management officer. I am in the Police Service and I always carry the Surge and Micra. I just wanted the tools. Maybe I am just itching (Oh yes!).