Anyone know what these are?

Grant Lamontagne · **on:** March 30, 2012, 07:11:17 PM

If you know say you know but don't give the answer. Let everyone have a guess!

Def

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Medic82 · **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:15:38 PM

Why that's the prototype for a flux capacitator

Heinz Doofenshmirtz · **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:29:24 PM

I'm pretty sure I know what they are, but not certain.

16VGTIDave · **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:32:37 PM

I'm also pretty sure I know what they are. Though I've never seen them from that angle before.

Dave

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jerseydevil · **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:34:05 PM

Quote from: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on March 30, 2012, 07:29:24 PM

I'm pretty sure I know what they are, but not certain.

+1. I'm almost positive I know, and if I'm right I even know where the prototype is on display.

Syph007 · **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:37:13 PM

No idea. Hard to judge scale from the pic, whats the approx width of those things from rusty round thing to rusty round thing?

Edit: Just noticed there is a person in the background, better idea now.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:49:00 PM

If it helps, I know what they are....

Here's a hint- if you have me as a friend on Facebook you probably at least know what they are related to!

Def

stressmaster5000 · **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2012, 07:56:13 PM

Well, I don't do Facebook anymore but I Still consider you as a friend or buddy here on MT.O

My guess is they look like some kind of drive carriage portions of an electric train or tram of some sort. I recognize the wheels as such but I am not certain if the large "motor" looking things in between them are electric motors or maybe some kind of hydraulic braking system.

Only a guess.....

BTW, a Swiss Company made some ~~electric~~ diesel train cars for my local county tram system.
http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/south-denton-headlines/20120114-dcta-unveils-new-rail-cars.ece

enki_ck · **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:04:53 PM

I like this picture.

Threeme2189 · **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:14:23 PM

I'[m guessing they're some kind of train engine, or something similar.
Where did they ship from?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #10 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:25:43 PM

Since the cat's out of the bag, they are bogeys or wheel assemblies for locomotives. They loaded the bogeys and locomotives separately because apparently Brazil (their destination) has a different gauge track than we have here.

You haven't lived until you've seen a train with no wheels fly through the air in preparation for an ocean crossing!

Def

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #11 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:29:44 PM

I don't think I'd want to be under those when they pass by.

jerseydevil · **Reply #12 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:34:32 PM

Interesting, didn't know that Brazil used a different gauge. I'm assuming they use a narrower gauge than us?

BTW, the prototype I was referring to before is Thomas Edison's electric locomotive bogey, the first in North America. You can see it clear as day from Main St. in West Orange, NJ outside of the Edison Lab complex, right next to a replica of the first movie studio, the Black Maria. Some very nice pubs and restaurants right there if anyone ever decides to make the trip.........

Heinz Doofenshmirtz · **Reply #13 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:16:16 PM

Electric train axle-truck was my guess too. It is weird though that Brazil has a different gauge. I'm guessing it's going to be narrower than our gauge to deal with the mountains they have there or the tighter confines of city streets.

In California we have quite a rich railroad history, so I know a fair amount about railroading stuff. I've been to the California State Rail Museum in Sacramento several times as I only live about an hour's drive away. In fact, I can walk to it from my house, albeit indirectly. I live 5 blocks from an Amtrak hub, and the rail museum is about the same distance from the Amtrak station in Sac. Makes a great day trip on weekends for the kids.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=668

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:30:30 PM

Quote from: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on March 30, 2012, 11:16:16 PM

Electric train axle-truck was my guess too. It is weird though that Brazil has a different gauge. I'm guessing it's going to be narrower than our gauge to deal with the mountains they have there or the tighter confines of city streets.

In California we have quite a rich railroad history, so I know a fair amount about railroading stuff. I've been to the California State Rail Museum in Sacramento several times as I only live about an hour's drive away. In fact, I can walk to it from my house, albeit indirectly. I live 5 blocks from an Amtrak hub, and the rail museum is about the same distance from the Amtrak station in Sac. Makes a great day trip on weekends for the kids.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=668

That's pretty interesting. Most of what I know about railroads in California is from Dr SHeldon Cooper!

Quote from: jerseydevil on March 30, 2012, 08:34:32 PM

Interesting, didn't know that Brazil used a different gauge. I'm assuming they use a narrower gauge than us? BTW, the prototype I was referring to before is Thomas Edison's electric locomotive bogey, the first in North America. You can see it clear as day from Main St. in West Orange, NJ outside of the Edison Lab complex, right next to a replica of the first movie studio, the Black Maria. Some very nice pubs and restaurants right there if anyone ever decides to make the trip.........

A Joisey meetup? That sounds interesting.... I'll get my spray on tan ready!

The different gauge in Brazil is only a guess, since these locomotives arrived on different bogeys entirely and had to be disassembled and set on giant blocks while these bogeys arrived separately. Now that I've had the opportunity to look them up it seems there are 4 different rail types:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Brazil

In case anyone is wondering, the ones I sent are the green/yellow/grey ones at the top.

Def

ryan1835 · **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2012, 10:29:22 PM

well i guessed right then!

Heinz Doofenshmirtz · **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2012, 06:01:10 AM

Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 30, 2012, 11:30:30 PM

That's pretty interesting. Most of what I know about railroads in California is from Dr SHeldon Cooper!

I have really wanted to start watching that show... but, we killed our cable a couple summers ago because it just wasn't worth it for the constantly increasing cost. We get all of our TV through Netflix, Hulu, and iTunes now.

People have told me I'm a lot like him... not sure if that's a compliment or an insult!

Carlos · **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2012, 11:50:22 PM

My father did some international train trips, at his time, so I become aware of these different gauges systems. Portugal and Spain have the so called Iberian Gauge which is broader than the standard gauge, used in US, Canada, most of Europe, and so on. When trains enter in France, they have to switch (break-of-gauge).

Mercury · **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2012, 04:52:13 PM

Awesome thread Grant!

I know I'm late to the party but I did know what they were...

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