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Opinions on Kershaw Cyro

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us Offline Ashley

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Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
on: July 28, 2012, 06:22:00 AM
Anyone on here own one yet? Also Def did you happen to handle one at Shot? Since I got my CRK I can't seem to buy anything with CHINA on it. I know I know how silly. I have a few Kershaw china knives and they are decent knives but that word bugs the hell outta me. So any thoughts or opinions. Seems all the reviews I've watched on youtube people like it BUT it has some flaw of sorts.

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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 07:19:24 AM
I bought two so far.  It's a great little knife.  It is short but the handle fits my hand week for the short blade and the thickness gives it a bit of heft.  I think it's definitely worth owning.  I gave my two to my sister and her husband and intend to order another for myself and a few more as gifts. 

I am really looking forward to the cryo II though.  The extra half inch makes a big difference. 


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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 10:33:16 AM
Amici,
I have to admit that I am really getting into Kershaw Knives. As to date, I have a Cyclone, Chive, a Centofante/Onion compilation, and my favorite, a Blur with a tanto combo edge.

As for their Chicom pieces, the Crown I is pretty much a great bang for very little bucks, check one out at you local Wallymart here in the states. That or Ebay for a terrific deal on a neat little folder.

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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 06:09:49 AM
Kershaw's design philosophy leaves me cold... I just don't get their ergos or appearance.  I bought a Crown last summer, and while perhaps not the best sample of their products, even apart from issues like fit and finish, I found it to be complete junk.  Thumb-stud placement, handle ergos, all of it just rubbed me the wrong way.  The Cryo doesn't change my mind on this, but I haven't handled one yet, and my opinion on Kershaws is... um... slightly biased...   :whistle:
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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 08:47:03 PM
Well, since the Cryo wasn't designed by Kershaw, you shouldn't have a problem with because of that.


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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 09:53:42 PM
I posted this on another forum, but here are a few thoughts on it (and the Spyderco Techno):

With each of these fine knives hitting the market at about the same time, and given the size similarity and great price disparity, I thought it might be fun to take a quick look at these two knives.

Off the bat, I recognize that this is an apples and oranges thing, at least in terms of materials and cost.  But when it comes to ergonomics and utility, its a fair fight.  I also do not give the Ankerson treatment to my knives by cutting rope and killing cardboard, and honestly blade steel doesn't matter that much to me for urban EDC.  So for edge retention and so forth you may have to look elsewhere.

What have we got here?  On one hand, the Cryo comes in at around $30 - $32 more or less.  Its a Kershaw A/O knife with steel scales and Chinese 8Cr13MoV steel.  The Hinderer flavor is highly touted with this knife, and you see it in the blade and scale profiles, as well as the Hinderer lockbar stabilizer.  The spring-loaded flipper works splendidly and lock up is sold with no play.   It sports a 4-way clip, with the tip down configuration provide complete deep carry.  When the clip is flipped around for tip up carry, about 0.5" of the knife protrudes from the pocket. Subjectively, it has a feel in the hand of relative quality, though the slick steel scales remind you that this is a $30 knife.  But given its pillar construction, good looks and attention to detail (design and manufacturing), I would be surprised if anyone will say that you aren't getting your dollars' worth out the Cryo.  It instantly joins the ranks of high value knives, including the Buck 110, Spyderco Tenacious series, RAT-1 folder and others.


Techno, top, with Cryo.

Overall lengths:  Techno 6", Cryo 6.5".
Blade lengths:  Techno 2.55", Cryo 2.75".

As for the Techno, its at the opposite end of the spendy scale.  Arriving in your mailbox at around $190 more or less, this is not a knife for the masses.  At about the same size of the Cryo, the Techno wears titanium scales in a "tumbled, natural color" according to one vendor, and a full flat grind CTS-XHP blade.  Spyderco describes CTS-XHP "as having the steel properties and hardness of D2 carbon tool steel but with the added advantage of chromium to classify it as a powdered stainless steel."  What grabs the attention both online and in hand though is the stoutness and thickness of both the knife and the blade relative to its length.  Blade thickness is 0.177".  Whereas the Cryo's calling card is bang for the buck, the Techno gets you with its design (Polish knifemaker Marcin Slysz), superb material and manufacturing, and its overall stout countenance.   Other touches on the Techno include a 2-way wire slip for deep carry, and notably the blue backspacer with raised jimping.  Those 7 raised blocks on the backspacer rise just about the profile of the titanium scales.  About the only thing I would change on the Techno, other than its entry fee, is that the wire clip bends when pressure is applied with 3 fingers when the blade is opened.  This is not flaw per se, and I am a fan of deep clips generally and wire clips specifically, but that little bit of movement may detract from what is otherwise a tank-like experience.  Chris Reeve knives are often characterized as vault like in their lockup and operation, and the Spydie Techno is no different in this regard.  Additionally, one might think that the stout Techno would outweigh its thinner, less spendy counterpart.  But at 3.6 oz., the titanium Techno comes in about half an ounce under the steel Cryo's 4.2 oz.  I find the weight of each knife to be a non issue, as the relatively lightness of the Techno belies its beefy construction, and the slight heft of the Cryo feels of quality.

The Techno comes here from Taiwan, and the Cryo from China.  For some buyers this matters, and others not so much.  Both blades were super sharp with even grinds, and well centered.








I would not characterize these knives as sexy, but you would get no argument from me if you did.

In terms of pure ergonomics, and all other factors aside (not that one can really do that), I subjectively give the nod in ergos to the Cryo.  The flipper deployment is certainly faster and easier, and I can get 4 fingers on the Cryo's scales whereas the Powernoodle Pinkie remains dangling with the Techno.  The corollary to this, though, is that you may wish to take your time and enjoy the Techno's refinement, so speed takes a back seat.  After all, enjoying the knife is the reason you bought the Techno in the first place.

Is the Techno "worth" 6-7x the price of the Cryo?  If utility is the sole measure of "worth", I would say absolutely not.  I have long advocated the notion that a $440 (shipped) Umzumnaan, for example, and which I own, does not vivisect a cardboard box 9 times better than does a Delica.  In fact, quite the opposite is true.  In my view, spendy knives do not earn their keep by being better than the pack when it comes to utility.  What the spendy knives - including the Techno - do excel at is pride of ownership, the pleasure of having a piece of knife in your pocket that has "better" design, materials and manufacturing than the knives of everyone you encounter during the day, and the good vibes that those factors impart on your life.

So pick your poison.  $35 or so on the credit card to get a Cryo in the mailbox, or $190 for the Techno.  Each "earns" the price of admission, albeit in different ways and for different reasons.


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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #6 on: August 04, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
Well, neither of them are my kind of knife, but that was a cracking write up Noodle  :tu:


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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 10:11:43 PM
Well, neither of them are my kind of knife, but that was a cracking write up Noodle  :tu:
+1!   :cheers:
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Re: Opinions on Kershaw Cyro
Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
Great reviews.  Just reinforced my desire to get a Cryo when they're available in Canada for a non-abusive price.

Still can't get over the goofy blue backspacer on the Techno, though.


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Reply #9 on: August 06, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Dang noodle nice review. Thanks for posting it. I really appreciate it.

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