New Star Wars

[Etherealicer]

 

[Etherealicer]

So far, the best alternative ending

[Grant Lamontagne]

That was, in many ways, a much better ending!

Def

[Kev D]

Kylo's new light sabre for the next movie

[Grant Lamontagne]

I'd hate to see the state of his thumb after trying to use the scissors or pliers.   

Def

[dks]

you do not touch them, young Grant.... you use the force to move them.....   

[Etherealicer]

I'd hate to see the state of his thumb after trying to use the scissors or pliers.   

Def

And I would love to see that enormous bottle of wine that requires that CS

Btw, you underestimate how much fun it is to watch other people get hurt

[Kev D]

That saw will be really useful to, what with not having anything else to cut wood with on a lightsabre 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I'd hate to see the state of his thumb after trying to use the scissors or pliers.   

Def

And I would love to see that enormous bottle of wine that requires that CS

Btw, you underestimate how much fun it is to watch other people get hurt

Not so much when it is someone with:

a- a lightsaber
b- magical superpowers
c- a temper
d- a penchant for tantrums

Otherwise I'd agree with you, but this seems like a recipe for disaster!

Def

[sawman]

Incidentally, I have watched this movie dozens of times but have often stopped it before the slow weird ending...

[Grant Lamontagne]

Good plan.

Def

[Whoey]

http://io9.gizmodo.com/star-wars-is-adding-some-gorgeous-new-ships-for-rogue-o-1783721583

 

[Gareth]

http://io9.gizmodo.com/star-wars-is-adding-some-gorgeous-new-ships-for-rogue-o-1783721583

 

I do wonder about bringing in new designs for a period where everything is already well established.  I suppose an cargo AT-AT is fine and a special shuttle is as well, but they're going to have to come up with a good reason we've never encountered the Strike TIE Fighter though.  That aside; it's a pretty cool design.   Hints of the Rebel Snow Speeder in the wing design?

[magentus]

Have mercy.  'Citin' stuff!

[Whoey]

rebels season 3



more mandos and... thrawn! 

[magentus]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

[Etherealicer]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

[magentus]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

You're right! And why didn't the empire just send in Tie Bombers to bomb the shield, or even do it from a Star Destroyer in orbit? The Rebellion would have been better off sending X and Y-Wings to attack the AT-AT's.

I'm so good at these tactics I will apply for Admiral Ackbars job.

I really enjoyed the scenes in 'Force Awakens' when the X-wings are flying over the water. More of that please!

[Kev D]

The force wasn't with them that day

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-36892759

[magentus]

The force wasn't with them that day

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-36892759

I heard he was just about to shoot a scene and someone said 'Break a leg'. I'll get my spacecoat.

[Kev D]

The force wasn't with them that day

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-36892759

I heard he was just about to shoot a scene and someone said 'Break a leg'. I'll get my spacecoat.

 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Anyone else find this funny?



The caption below it reads:

The cast of Star Wars Episode Seven: The Force Awakens taking part in a read-through at Pinewood Studios

See the two guys in the bottom left with the checkered shirts on?  The one who's face you can see is Mark Hamill, aka Luke Skywalker, who didn't utter a single syllable in the entire film.

Why the heck was he at the read through?  Or did he have lines, but someone accidentally spilled whiteout all over his copy of the script?   

Def

[dks]

..wait for the directors cut/extended version......

[Grant Lamontagne]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

An AT AT is heavily armed and armored with a bunch of troops inside.  It is perfect for inserting troops into an area that is inaccessible due to space oriented weaponry (like the ion cannon) but is not suitable for many other vehicles.  The Rebels were having trouble adapting speeders to the cold, who is to say the Imperials wouldn't as well?  And, on the offensive is not the time to find flaws in equipment.... however, ordinarily AT AT's are used in places like Endor, where they can stomp through heavy vegetation that would hamper a repulsorlift vehicle.

Look at the Russian Mil-Hind.  It is very much like an AT AT in that, as a helicopter it has obvious flaws, one of which being that if it goes down it takes a whole platoon with it.  But, with it's weaponry and adequate support, it is not a helicopter you want to go up against.  Hell, a AH 64 Apache would certainly give soem thought before taking on a HIND.

Def

[Etherealicer]

Anyone else find this funny?

(Image removed from quote.)

The caption below it reads:

The cast of Star Wars Episode Seven: The Force Awakens taking part in a read-through at Pinewood Studios

See the two guys in the bottom left with the checkered shirts on?  The one who's face you can see is Mark Hamill, aka Luke Skywalker, who didn't utter a single syllable in the entire film.

Why the heck was he at the read through?  Or did he have lines, but someone accidentally spilled whiteout all over his copy of the script?   

Def

I don't think this is Mark Hamill, I think it is his stunt double.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

A-Wings were designed by General Crespin, a fighter jock who believed that swift strikes would win more than heavy artillery.  The A Wing is a super fast attack fighter that often appears, hits the opponents and is gone before the opponent can react.  They were specifically designed to take on the TIE Interceptor, which was much faster and more maneuverable than an X Wing.  Helping the A Wing become more effective is the fact that the side mounted lasers raise and lower to continue firing on target as the fighter passes over or under, effectively hitting the target from three sides.

They don't take a lot of hits, but the idea is similar to an (theoretical) assault version of the SR 71- get in, do what you have to do then get out before anyone can do anything about it.  While the SR 71 took pictures, the A Wing shoots things.

Def

[Grant Lamontagne]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

You're right! And why didn't the empire just send in Tie Bombers to bomb the shield, or even do it from a Star Destroyer in orbit? The Rebellion would have been better off sending X and Y-Wings to attack the AT-AT's.

I'm so good at these tactics I will apply for Admiral Ackbars job.

I really enjoyed the scenes in 'Force Awakens' when the X-wings are flying over the water. More of that please!

TIE bombers would have been too easy to pick off.  And, escort fighters would have been seriously hampered as well in the cross winds and the giant solar collectors on either side.  TIE bombers, fighters, interceptors etc were never designed for atmospheric combat.

The X Wings were needed to help cover the escape of the transports- sending them against the AT AT's would have been suicidal for the escaping transports, as the TIE fighters would have been scrambled even if the Star Destroyers were incapacitated by ion blasts.

Y Wings are slow bombers and would have been chewed apart by AT AT's and AT ST's.

Using Star Destroyers from orbit wasn't an option because of the shielding.  They may have succeeded if they pounded away for an extended period of time, but that would have given the Rebels a chance to either escape another way or call for reinforcements. 

It is very sad that I know all of this well enough to have a logical argument about it.... 

Def

[Gareth]

Anyone else find this funny?

(Image removed from quote.)

The caption below it reads:

The cast of Star Wars Episode Seven: The Force Awakens taking part in a read-through at Pinewood Studios

See the two guys in the bottom left with the checkered shirts on?  The one who's face you can see is Mark Hamill, aka Luke Skywalker, who didn't utter a single syllable in the entire film.

Why the heck was he at the read through?  Or did he have lines, but someone accidentally spilled whiteout all over his copy of the script?   

Def

IIRC I heard that he was reading all the narration and directors.  i.e. "a door slides down and traps an old smuggler by the leg"

[magentus]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

You're right! And why didn't the empire just send in Tie Bombers to bomb the shield, or even do it from a Star Destroyer in orbit? The Rebellion would have been better off sending X and Y-Wings to attack the AT-AT's.

I'm so good at these tactics I will apply for Admiral Ackbars job.

I really enjoyed the scenes in 'Force Awakens' when the X-wings are flying over the water. More of that please!

TIE bombers would have been too easy to pick off.  And, escort fighters would have been seriously hampered as well in the cross winds and the giant solar collectors on either side.  TIE bombers, fighters, interceptors etc were never designed for atmospheric combat.

The X Wings were needed to help cover the escape of the transports- sending them against the AT AT's would have been suicidal for the escaping transports, as the TIE fighters would have been scrambled even if the Star Destroyers were incapacitated by ion blasts.

Y Wings are slow bombers and would have been chewed apart by AT AT's and AT ST's.

Using Star Destroyers from orbit wasn't an option because of the shielding.  They may have succeeded if they pounded away for an extended period of time, but that would have given the Rebels a chance to either escape another way or call for reinforcements. 

It is very sad that I know all of this well enough to have a logical argument about it.... 

Def

No, that is the explanation I wanted thanks chief - I made a rookie mistake as well - they were snow speeders on Hoth, not A Wings. I will step down from Admiral Ackbars position and try something easier like being the guy who tightens up the bits on the back of the X-Wing before flight. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I woke up this morning wondering what the tactical advantage of an AT-AT (Mega cool looking but slow and vulnerable) is over a fast moving and more manouverable vehicle.

Any opinions?

None! They trip and fall over so easily that a regular tank would be better. But then those A-wings are not great either. Seriously, a present day helicopter would be much more efficient. Also noticed how poorly their rockets perform?

You're right! And why didn't the empire just send in Tie Bombers to bomb the shield, or even do it from a Star Destroyer in orbit? The Rebellion would have been better off sending X and Y-Wings to attack the AT-AT's.

I'm so good at these tactics I will apply for Admiral Ackbars job.

I really enjoyed the scenes in 'Force Awakens' when the X-wings are flying over the water. More of that please!

TIE bombers would have been too easy to pick off.  And, escort fighters would have been seriously hampered as well in the cross winds and the giant solar collectors on either side.  TIE bombers, fighters, interceptors etc were never designed for atmospheric combat.

The X Wings were needed to help cover the escape of the transports- sending them against the AT AT's would have been suicidal for the escaping transports, as the TIE fighters would have been scrambled even if the Star Destroyers were incapacitated by ion blasts.

Y Wings are slow bombers and would have been chewed apart by AT AT's and AT ST's.

Using Star Destroyers from orbit wasn't an option because of the shielding.  They may have succeeded if they pounded away for an extended period of time, but that would have given the Rebels a chance to either escape another way or call for reinforcements. 

It is very sad that I know all of this well enough to have a logical argument about it.... 

Def

No, that is the explanation I wanted thanks chief - I made a rookie mistake as well - they were snow speeders on Hoth, not A Wings. I will step down from Admiral Ackbars position and try something easier like being the guy who tightens up the bits on the back of the X-Wing before flight. 

Even though they were called snow speeders when the toys came out, they were actually not snow speeders.  If they were snow speeders then they shouldn't have had trouble adapting them to the cold.  They were simply light assault or recon speeders.

Speeder is a generic term for repulsorlift vehicles in Star Wars.  Repulsorlifts are the things that allow various vehicles to float, from landspeeders to speeder bikes.  They are generally used in place of wheeled or tracked vehicles since they are more versatile and less moving parts mean less maintenance.  In the case of the snow speeders, they didn't so much fly like the X Wings or A Wings etc, as they jumped off uneven terrain and glided around.

As I said, I have immersed myself in the Lore of Star Wars just a bit too much....   

Def