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A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)

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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #90 on: July 09, 2014, 06:26:39 PM
I have been told coke primarily works from the sugar functioning as a chelating agent, it is not enough phosphorous acid for that to be the most important reactant. For the same reason I have seen molasses recommended for removing rust. It would have been interesting to compare the results from an appropriate vinegar solution, coke and molasses.

Coca-cola manufactured in the United Sates contains high fructose corn syrup not sugar.

Coke contains phosphoric acid.Phosphoric acid is produced from phosphates by reacting with sulphuric acid.Phosphorus is an element that occurs in nature.

Phosphoric acid is a predominate ingredient in some rust removal products.

Molasses possesses rust removal properties if it is a low grade that contains sulphur which is usually found in feed and grain stores.Sulphur creates a weak organic acid which does not attack the base metal.

This is why distilled vinegar works,it's a mild acid that removes rust but doesn't attack the base metal,if not left too long in the vinegar.

I'm not picking on you Steiner but there was some erroneous conclusions in your post.
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #91 on: July 11, 2014, 04:13:27 PM
Checked the BO part again, no change at all.  I'll leave it a few more days to see if anything will happen.   :tu:
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #92 on: July 11, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
Checked the BO part again, no change at all.  I'll leave it a few more days to see if anything will happen.   :tu:


Thanks for the update.  :tu:

Did you change the liquid or is it the same stuff?
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #93 on: July 11, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
Wonder if he were to piss in it... Pee is pretty acidic.  :think:
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #94 on: July 11, 2014, 05:01:11 PM
Wonder if he were to piss in it... Pee is pretty acidic.  :think:
Would that be considered custom peening?  :think:


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #95 on: July 11, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
You know what, I believe you're right, I believe that's how it's done  :P
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #96 on: July 12, 2014, 11:15:17 PM
After reading through this I tried it with a leatherman micra from 03 that the scissors and some of the tools rusted either shut or unuseable.  After 24hrs they worked but were sticky.  I gave it a soapy bath dried in the sun and then oiled the joints and scrubbed with a toothbrush.  Works good as new now!  Thanks for the idea.


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #97 on: July 12, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
After reading through this I tried it with a leatherman micra from 03 that the scissors and some of the tools rusted either shut or unuseable.  After 24hrs they worked but were sticky.  I gave it a soapy bath dried in the sun and then oiled the joints and scrubbed with a toothbrush.  Works good as new now!  Thanks for the idea.


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #98 on: July 13, 2014, 01:17:45 AM
You guys don't drink the Coke after, do you?


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #99 on: July 18, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
Ok. I've decided. I'm gonna try that out. :D brb for coke. Lol.

I'll subject my newly acquired PST to this :D I've done pretty good job removing & scraping some rusty spots on it, but there are still some thingies on the drivers that bug me. And there seems to be some rust under which just can't get out ... when cleaned normally. So. Yeah.


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #100 on: July 18, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
So the rust is again mainly in some hard to reach areas... and on the very tools there is something weird which doesn't look like rust to me, it isn't brown.. but it just IS there. What bugs me the most, though, is the rust on Leatherman's logo on the plier head. I don't want rust there :D So we'll see if the coke will manage it. I couldn't find a better dish, though, so one side of the tool is barely covered. Maybe I'll just take it out and put it on lie on its other side some time.

@Captain, how long did you keep your Fuse in the coke?



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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #101 on: July 18, 2014, 06:08:24 PM
Scary how we drink this stuff  :think:.  I hope you have great results.  It can be a pain to get all the "hidden rust" off.  Those spots maybe pits as a result of the rust eating the steel.  Can't wait to see the results. 
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #102 on: July 18, 2014, 06:17:20 PM
Scary how we drink this stuff  :think:.  I hope you have great results.  It can be a pain to get all the "hidden rust" off.  Those spots maybe pits as a result of the rust eating the steel.  Can't wait to see the results.

Me too :D The Captain had great results, but I think I'd managed to get out the "regular" rust and dirty stuff with just some cotton fabric & WD40.... but there must still be some more stuff inside. We'll see :D


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #103 on: July 18, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
I would do a 24 hour soak and change the coke out with fresh stuff half way through.  :tu:

On my Sidekick when I changed the coke I did a quick scrubbing on it before I put it back in the fresh coke for the second half of the soak.
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #104 on: July 18, 2014, 07:02:10 PM
Thanks :D I may change it tomorrow.. I already changed it once because I almost stepped on it and half the coke was all over the floor  :facepalm:


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #105 on: July 18, 2014, 07:32:58 PM
Thanks :D I may change it tomorrow.. I already changed it once because I almost stepped on it and half the coke was all over the floor  :facepalm:

 :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry to laugh, but I know how that goes. I used to step on my dogs water bowl all the time.
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #106 on: July 18, 2014, 07:48:37 PM
:D:D:D

I actually wonder if those biggish blackish spots will disappear or clean. They seam to be quite rough, it's not just smooth spots on the metal.
 


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #107 on: July 18, 2014, 08:03:09 PM
:D:D:D

I actually wonder if those biggish blackish spots will disappear or clean. They seam to be quite rough, it's not just smooth spots on the metal.


If it is pitting like Aloha said they will not be removed as its missing metal. If it is rough it leads me to believe it is pitting, but time will tell.
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #108 on: July 18, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
Yes, it is, then. I just didn't know how to call that. But at least we'll know that the other stuff inside, that can't be reached, will have disappeared more or less. I love my tools neat & tidy :D  :multi:


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #109 on: July 18, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
Btw I forgot all about the BO part in the coke. I took it out and there is absolutely no change. So it seems safe to derust a BO tool.   :tu:
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #110 on: July 18, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Btw I forgot all about the BO part in the coke. I took it out and there is absolutely no change. So it seems safe to derust a BO tool.   :tu:

Awesome. Thanks for doing the experiment and letting us know.  :tu:
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Reply #111 on: July 18, 2014, 09:10:34 PM
Okay, its been 7hrs since I put it in the coke, I took it out, scrubbed it with a toothbrush, soap & warm water, it seemed shinier and maybe the rust around the logo is partly gone... but it's darkish and was difficult to see. I changed the coke and will leave it there till tomorrow morning, that is about 11 more hours or so. at least the dirt will have gotten out completely :D


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #112 on: July 18, 2014, 09:56:05 PM
Okay, its been 7hrs since I put it in the coke, I took it out, scrubbed it with a toothbrush, soap & warm water, it seemed shinier and maybe the rust around the logo is partly gone... but it's darkish and was difficult to see. I changed the coke and will leave it there till tomorrow morning, that is about 11 more hours or so. at least the dirt will have gotten out completely :D

Let us know how it turns out.  :tu:


You do plan on a good soap and water scrubbing after it comes out right?
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #113 on: July 18, 2014, 10:41:57 PM
Sure :D    I read the previous pages about the... good smelling, tasty, sticky ... stuff. :D


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #114 on: July 18, 2014, 10:55:25 PM
I would have totally polished it to a Swisstool shine had I known but then you wouldn't be having this much fun.  I really never looked all that closely at the tool before sending it.  It does look like pitting ( metal eroded from rust ) from the pictures.  I got the tool from the flea market and gave it a spray with WD40 and then 3and1 oil only. 

I have a JPST that I use because it came with broken can opener and awl.  I polished it with in a inch of its life to clean up the crud that the previous owner let accumulate.  Use it and abuse it NNR go ahead  :pok: it has lasted this long.   
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #115 on: July 19, 2014, 07:17:46 AM
Omg, don't worry, lol :D I'm indeed having fun and I wanted to try this coke experiment, anyway, just never had what to try it on :D My tools are mostly brand newish and I don't use them much  :facepalm: So I'm more than happy to play with the PST :D Btw, the poor guy's outside still in the coke... it's been a little over 10hrs after my coke change, I woke up not long ago. And it's been ..undercoke for a total of around 17 hours :D I'll have my coffee and save it from drowning :D


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Reply #116 on: July 19, 2014, 07:49:31 AM
Omg, don't worry, lol :D I'm indeed having fun and I wanted to try this coke experiment, anyway, just never had what to try it on :D My tools are mostly brand newish and I don't use them much  :facepalm: So I'm more than happy to play with the PST :D Btw, the poor guy's outside still in the coke... it's been a little over 10hrs after my coke change, I woke up not long ago. And it's been ..undercoke for a total of around 17 hours :D I'll have my coffee and save it from drowning :D

I know your having fun experimenting with it  ;).  It's nice to have a tool that you can drown from time to time.  It's also good practice to work out ideas on tools that aren't rare.  I was really kidding about polishing it as that takes so much time  :D.  You would have gotten it next Xmas haha.  I can't wait to see what it looks like.   
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #117 on: July 19, 2014, 08:11:31 AM
Did you polish that PST by hand or with a dremel?
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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #118 on: July 19, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
It does look a bit better around some drivers I think. True that the pitting won't disappear, but now at least it's clean :D This makes me wonder if actually ANY kind of soda won't work or just keeping it in some plain water with soap or something won't do the same job. Maybe a lot on it was just some pocket lint and dirt and that's what the coke /being liquid/ removes. Will post some pictures later...:D


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Re: A little Coca-Cola bath for the Fuse (experiment)
Reply #119 on: July 19, 2014, 08:57:22 AM
It does look a bit better around some drivers I think. True that the pitting won't disappear, but now at least it's clean :D This makes me wonder if actually ANY kind of soda won't work or just keeping it in some plain water with soap or something won't do the same job. Maybe a lot on it was just some pocket lint and dirt and that's what the coke /being liquid/ removes. Will post some pictures later...:D

Its said that diet mountain dew worked much better than coca cola, but I have not tried it yet.

I do know from my Sideclip the coke did actually remove 95% of the rust. 
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