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Old and older wave comparison :-)
on: July 29, 2014, 01:32:55 PM
Today i got my 03 wave from Grathr  :salute: ,ive been a wave owner since being given one back in 98,at that point this was lm's flagship model,well as opening the 03 version i noticed it had more of a snap when opened in plier mode  :D im sure this has come up many times on mto but something i never realized,it has a tab inside riveted on so has more snap,i then noticed the ribbs like the 04 waves se blade so you know what blade it is,then i noticed its got smooth caps on the end of the handles instead of the older rough ones(prefer the look of the older ones) the only thing i knew was different was leatherman tool on the newer pliers instead of leatherman usa on older model,you can see some of this changes on the newer wave,just wanted to share  :tu: and again big thanks to Grathr  :salute:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 01:36:52 PM
More pics  :tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 02:39:40 PM
Thanks for sharing Zed :tu:  Mine is dated 0802 I believe (don't have it on me to verify), and I'm pretty sure it has the riveted tabs.  It does have a bit of snap when I close the handles, which I like.  I don't know about the caps.  I'll have to check it out later if I think to.  Mine also has the ribbed section on the serrated blade, but I just assumed that was normal. 
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on July 29, 2014, 02:39:40 PM
Thanks for sharing Zed :tu:  Mine is dated 0802 I believe (don't have it on me to verify), and I'm pretty sure it has the riveted tabs.  It does have a bit of snap when I close the handles, which I like.  I don't know about the caps.  I'll have to check it out later if I think to.  Mine also has the ribbed section on the serrated blade, but I just assumed that was normal.

 :tu: not sure what date tabs and ribs was added  :think: possibly the same time they changed to leatherman tools on the pliers,im assuming the tabs added a bit of weight  :D looks like they used the same older frames but added the tabs,pliers look different on the inside too,
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 03:05:27 PM
I never noticed this. I'm going to have a closer look at mine.
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 03:14:19 PM
Quote from: sawman on July 29, 2014, 03:05:27 PM
I never noticed this. I'm going to have a closer look at mine.

 :tu: possibly we need a wave time line  :tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
Ok, mine is dated 12/98 and does not have the tabs.
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
I've also got a newer and older old style wave, I think the tab on the newer ones acts like a spring, there's a similar device on the rebar. My newer one with the tab doesn't have the rattle of the older one, they're both in unused condition. The photo shows the groves on the plier head legs on the newer one, the forked tab or spring fits into these grooves, gripping the plier head. You can just see the forked end poking out.

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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 03:28:03 PM
I'm guessing the purpose of these tabs is to prevent the blades from opening when the pliers are open?

I really don't care for these tabs...
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
On the new wave post 2004, there is a small tab on the forked spring, that is pushed out when the pliers are open, so that the blades are locked in. On the newer old wave, there is no small tab, the forked spring is there purely to grip the plier head, to firm up the tool. You can still open the blades on the newer old wave with spring, while the pliers are open. The older old wave feels to me like a P.S.T with a few extra tools and outside opening blades. The introduction of the springs looks to be the start of the evolution that leads to the 'improved' much chunkier solid new wave. Although as a lover of the older style leatherman Tools, I prefer the older style old Wave, and for some strange reason (Hollywood brainwashing perhaps?) I like having U.S.A on my Letherman Tools!
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Philby on July 29, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
On the new wave post 2004, there is a small tab on the forked spring, that is pushed out when the pliers are open, so that the blades are locked in. On the newer old wave, there is no small tab, the forked spring is there purely to grip the plier head, to firm up the tool. You can still open the blades on the newer old wave with the spring, while the pliers are open. The older old wave feels to me like a P.S.T with a few extra tools and outside opening blades. The introduction of the springs looks to be the start of the evolution that leads to the 'improved' much chunkier solid new wave. Although as a lover of the older style leatherman Tools, I prefer the older style old Wave, and for some strange reason (Hollywood brainwashing perhaps?) I like having U.S.A on my Letherman Tools!
Thanks for clearing that up for me :) 

And I also like U.S.A. on my tools (another reason I love my MP600) :2tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
Yeah my 03 wave feels a bit more solid closed than my 99 wave,I also prefers the older model to the new wave just feels slimmer and more compact, :tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Looks like 3 variations

2001-2004 Original Wave

"Leatherman Tool" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004.
 
   
2001 Wave USA with Ridges

"Leatherman USA" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001.

   
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Available in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends :facepalm:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #14 on: July 30, 2014, 04:36:51 AM
Quote from: Zed on July 29, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Looks like 3 variations

2001-2004 Original Wave

"Leatherman Tool" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004.
 
   
2001 Wave USA with Ridges

"Leatherman USA" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001.

   
1998-2001 Original Wave

"Leatherman USA" stamp, no ridges on serrated blade

Available in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.

Wow,  great breakdown.  thank you Zed!

looks like mine is the first Original ORIGINAL Wave.   date code 0300/0300

but mine has something special.

Mine should enable the possessor to avoid major modding SNAFUs and minimize the time required for modding SAKs and MTs.

you see I have the Mjolnir of OG Waves!



it was the great Syph007 of Asgard who deemed me worthy to posses it!
it is bestowed with with the very life-blood that Syph007 uses on every mod.
Many mods have been handled by Syph007 of Asgard (or Canada, whatever) but this one was used and carried by the demigod.

now I am all like




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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #15 on: July 30, 2014, 04:39:43 AM
Haha, that's great Detron :D  Oh, and mine does have the smooth caps at the end of the handles.  I forgot to mention that.  I'm thinking I may someday have to track down an "original" Original Wave :whistle:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #16 on: July 30, 2014, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: Zed on July 29, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Looks like 3 variations

2001-2004 Original Wave

"Leatherman Tool" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004.
 
   
2001 Wave USA with Ridges

"Leatherman USA" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001.

   
1998-2001 Original Wave

"Leatherman USA" stamp, no ridges on serrated blade

Available in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.

thanks Zed! :salute:

looks like I have one from 1999 and another from 2000, giving me two "original" Original Waves, and one from 2003. :tu:

actually, make that two from 2003 if you count the 20th anniversary edition. ;)

anyone wanna trade a 2000 Wave for a 2001 Wave with ridges? :D
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #17 on: July 30, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
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Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends :facepalm:


So yours is dated 98( first yeat of manufactorer)no tab or ribs,so = original wave

I can't take credit for the list as found it on the net but seems correct :tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends ::facepalm:
Just to be safe, get one from each year, and the 20th anniversary one, and a user and a spare user. So 98-04, you need at least 6+1+2=9, may as well round it up to 10!
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 12:03:22 PM
My two OG's are dated 02/98:02/98 and 08/02A:08/02B. :salute:

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Reply #20 on: July 30, 2014, 12:07:48 PM
My 03 now lives in my organizer and my 99 is officially retired  :tu:
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Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Breezy12 on July 30, 2014, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: Zed on July 29, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Looks like 3 variations

2001-2004 Original Wave

"Leatherman Tool" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004.
 
   
2001 Wave USA with Ridges

"Leatherman USA" stamp, ridges on serrated blade

Available in 2001.

   
1998-2001 Original Wave

"Leatherman USA" stamp, no ridges on serrated blade

Available in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.

thanks Zed! :salute:

looks like I have one from 1999 and another from 2000, giving me two "original" Original Waves, and one from 2003. :tu:

actually, make that two from 2003 if you count the 20th anniversary edition. ;)

anyone wanna trade a 2000 Wave for a 2001 Wave with ridges? :D
Here's the one for you USA on the pliers ridges on the serrated blade :salute:: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leatherman-Wave-multi-plier-with-sheath-/201134090203?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2ed486a7db&autorefresh=true
I've bought from this seller before a few times, no problems.

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Reply #22 on: July 30, 2014, 02:42:43 PM
Quote from: Zed on July 30, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
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Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends :facepalm:


So yours is dated 98( first yeat of manufactorer)no tab or ribs,so = original wave

I can't take credit for the list as found it on the net but seems correct :tu:

Nope, mine's dated 0802.  So I have the version 3 so to speak.  Now I feel like I should track down the version 1 Original Wave :facepalm:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #23 on: July 30, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: Philby on July 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends ::facepalm:
Just to be safe, get one from each year, and the 20th anniversary one, and a user and a spare user. So 98-04, you need at least 6+1+2=9, may as well round it up to 10!
 :pok: :pok: :pok: >:D :cheers:

I'm not listening! :poh: :ahhh
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #24 on: July 30, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: Philby on July 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on July 30, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Great, so basically what you're telling me is that I do not have an "Original" Wave, but rather an Original Wave Version 3.0...which means I still have yet to obtain an Original Wave :ahhh  It never ends ::facepalm:
Just to be safe, get one from each year, and the 20th anniversary one, and a user and a spare user. So 98-04, you need at least 6+1+2=9, may as well round it up to 10!
 :pok: :pok: :pok: >:D :cheers:

I'm not listening! :poh: :ahhh

 :rofl: i started doing this with 111mm gaks but got bored and they all pretty much looked the same,but i could be tempted with a new wave if not just for comparison  :D ive never had old and new at the same time  :facepalm:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #25 on: July 30, 2014, 03:36:51 PM
I'm glad I have an original original  :P
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #26 on: July 30, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: sawman on July 30, 2014, 03:36:51 PM
I'm glad I have an original original  :P

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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #27 on: July 30, 2014, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: Philby on July 30, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Here's the one for you USA on the pliers ridges on the serrated blade :salute:: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leatherman-Wave-multi-plier-with-sheath-/201134090203?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2ed486a7db&autorefresh=true
I've bought from this seller before a few times, no problems.

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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #28 on: July 31, 2014, 12:19:04 AM
Just noticed another difference, my 99 wave has no arrow pointing to the hard wire notch but the 03 has  :tu:
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Re: Old and older wave comparison :-)
Reply #29 on: July 31, 2014, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: Zed on July 31, 2014, 12:19:04 AM
Just noticed another difference, my 99 wave has no arrow pointing to the hard wire notch but the 03 has  :tu:
Given the differences of the 3, I prefer my '98 Wave. I'm so glad to have an original in MINT condition  :D
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