Why oh why aren't...

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

MT manufactures making more efforts into making slip jointed tool's for the more ''hostile'' markets

Everyday here in the UK the anti knife zealots gain strength, and more and more politician's make empty promises about making Britain a safer place, and how there going to change the laws to effectively ban knives ect ect

Now I'll be the first to admit that the UK market for knives is pretty small, and for MT's probably a lot smaller still, so I can't imagine LM, Gerber et al losing a great deal of sleep over the risk of loosing it's market share over here. But what of the rest of europe

Like it not, most European countries have either banned, or will be banning assited openers and one handed openers, so surely it must be time for the major manufactures to wise up and start turning out street legal MT's with slipjointed blades again

[Benner]

I would have thought so to.

I guess this is going to be one of those "deal with it after it has happened" situations. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I think so too, fortunatly Vic and Wenger still make there Sak's, but if you want a street legal, full size MT, frankly we're a bit buggered

[DaveK]

Two reasons I reckon, firstly as Micky says, we aren't a huge market, although I don't think any of the big manufacturers would relish losing their market share to it's competitors.

The other could well be that they are waiting to see exactly what changes are made to laws in each country before doing anything. I think I would, as you could make a very expensive mistake!

I'm pretty sure that they will eventually introduce "compliant" designs rather than lose out.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

The other could well be that they are waiting to see exactly what changes are made to laws in each country before doing anything. I think I would, as you could make a very expensive mistake!

I'm pretty sure that they will eventually introduce "compliant" designs rather than lose out.

Thats a very good point , still means we suffer in the short term though

[DaveK]

I don't!!

Sod 'em. I simply carry my MTs in my bag or in my pocket and will continue to do so.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I don't!!

Sod 'em. I simply carry my MTs in my bag or in my pocket and will continue to do so.

That's coz we're suitable ancient so we don't arouse suspition , but the likes of Ben, Darren and Ryan it's a different story

[Benner]

I don't!!

Sod 'em. I simply carry my MTs in my bag or in my pocket and will continue to do so.

That's coz we're suitable ancient so we don't arouse suspition , but the likes of Ben, Darren and Ryan it's a different story

Are you saying I look like a trouble maker?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Wouldn't dream of it ole son

[DaveK]

I don't!!

Sod 'em. I simply carry my MTs in my bag or in my pocket and will continue to do so.

That's coz we're suitable ancient so we don't arouse suspition , but the likes of Ben, Darren and Ryan it's a different story

Are you saying I look like a trouble maker?

I reckon he was (fight, fight, fight)..

But he's right though unfortunately, I wouldn't be so keen on my 13 yr old walking the streets with a multi - I trust him, but he could get into trouble if someone saw it. Shame really, I was never apart from my SAK at that age, used it for everything.

[Benner]

Sadly he is correct.    Although even I'd admit to not being as careful in what I carry as I should.

[DaveK]

Sadly he is correct.    Although even I'd admit to not being as careful in what I carry as I should.

I think it's worth it. You could get the tool confiscated, but it's a risk I'll take because I'd be lost without my MT when out and about. If it has to stay at home, then that's most of the benefit of a Multi gone.

I can completely understand why others would prefer to avoid sailing that close to the wind though, and if the law / tolerance start to change I'll probably change my opinion too, which would be a shame.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Thats the problem, we shouldn't have to be careful, we should just be able to grab the MT of our choice, secure in the knowledge that if we do get searched it won't matter because it's street legal. Instead off trying to pull our tshirts down a bit further everytime a cop car drives by

[Grant Lamontagne]

Not to sound like a jackass or anything, although I know that's exactly what it sounds like, but what are you gents doing about this?

In a previous thread someone said something about the average Briton being too lazy and complacent, which just means that you guys are at the mercy of whatever whims catch the candy assed politicos' fancy.

Now might be a good time for a grassroots movement or even one of you guys to run for local office and interject a small amount of sense into public (dis)service.

As for why manufacturers don't make much to suit you guys, well that's possibly got as much to do with liability as anything else.  Non locking blades might be construed as unsafe in today's society and no one wants to get sued any more than they already are.  That and I'm sure all the tools sold in Europe per annum are maybe on par with the number of tools sold with those sold in any region in the US.  It's sad to say that we outside of the US (Canada included) make up such a small fraction of their market that is just isn't a big concern.  Most probably think that a Juice or Guppy should be enough for anyone in a non- locking blade friendly place.

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Well I was a member of the anti anti knife group, and signed all the petitions, and wrote to my MP, but the group folded through lack of interest , we're such a tiny, tiny minority that we can be villified, and stamped on with impunity

[Tarrodemierda]

hahah,here we can carry almost any blade pretty easily,only some switchblades are banned but onehand openers,locking blades,all blade lenghts are free for use.as long as u dont keep it under everyones eyes,cops dont take it away even if they inspect you.and still...the most common item to execute a kill here is fixed blade MORA.

bums,gipsies,narcs,and alcoholics carry always mora it seems.


and i didnt mean to be any sort of racist by mentioning gypsies,they just have this culture of settling the score with blades and carryin one.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I doubt there's a govenment with balls enough to take away your Puukko's mate

[WhichDawg]

Are you saying I look like a trouble maker?

who would ever say such a thing!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

 

[Benner]

Actually I would have written "Ben woz ere" on that wall. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Actually I would have written "Ben woz ere" on that wall. 

Was that 'would' or 'have' written it

[Benner]

Actually I would have written "Ben woz ere" on that wall. 

Was that 'would' or 'have' written it

 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Actually I would have written "Ben woz ere" on that wall. 

Was that 'would' or 'have' written it

 

Thought as much

[DaveK]

In a previous thread someone said something about the average Briton being too lazy and complacent, which just means that you guys are at the mercy of whatever whims catch the candy assed politicos' fancy.

That may be very true in general but I don't think so in this case. In fact it's the opposite with politicians following public opinion, fueled by sensationalist media.

There have been a couple of high profile murders involving knives recently, both involving young people who reportedly carry knives and were 'gang' members. We have an unpopular government and it's opposition scoring points off each other with various hair-brained suggestions on how we can stamp out this new menace. If I've managed to keep up, the latest suggestion is compulsory imprisonment for anyone found carrying a knife. It's a hot topic and common sense doesn't look like putting in an appearance anytime soon. It's crazy.

But the harsh reality is that there would be no public sympathy for any pro-knife lobby here today. There will be a clamp down, even though our current knife laws (IMO) amongst the most sensible I've heard of. Today, if I was stopped whilst carrying an SAK, it would be at the police's discretion as to what happened. They could legally send me on my way, confiscate it or even arrest me, depending on the circumstances.

What is likely to happen is that first option will disappear, so that my knife becomes another point on the statistics as the government prove how they are stamping out the disease.

[WhichDawg]

Actually I would have written "Ben woz ere" on that wall. 

lol that would have been funnier!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Very well put Dave

[duckman1975]

Well I was a member of the anti anti knife group, and signed all the petitions, and wrote to my MP, but the group folded through lack of interest , we're such a tiny, tiny minority that we can be villified, and stamped on with impunity

IMHO, fear is the on missing on the formula for a successful anti anti knife campaign, anti knife group are more afraid of the knife than the anti anti knife group is afraid of losing their knives, fear is the best motivator  

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

In the meantime we lose out

And on that bombshell, I'm off to bed

Night fella's

[Tarrodemierda]

hmmm this gang thing......about 50 percent of my friends are in gangs,but i mean motorcycle gangs,and they sure dont stab people here,they carry multi´s a lot,not any tacticals etc and use them in some roadside reparations and in camp chores.

here the "bad" 1% gangs use anti aircraft rocket launchers and guns to scare the public,not knives.

but iam afraid too,of the fact that some day in neardby future they will start to make some tight rules concerning knife-carry.....thats a real bad issue.

[WhichDawg]

alright I "fixed" the pic

so many good fonts to chose from,
how do you decide "graffiti" styles?!