We've discussed these in a different subforum. The concensus seemed to be that, if nothing else, this was a poor design. Imagine my surprise when I saw this flash up on my television the other other day. They actually spent money making a commercial and getting air time for this product. Hey, I've got to give it to them. You don't see Leatherman or Gerber commercials that often. And the timing is pretty good - Christmas is THE primo time of year (right there with Father's Day) where gimmicky, cheap, odd harware store checkout line products can really sell. So, who knows.