My bad.
Yeah this time it was a rumour, but soon enough it'll be for real, then things will really get ugly
Well they started to pour water into the Ghawar and Safaniya oil fields about three years ago, and they only do that when the supply's almost exausted, so I give oil 10 years on the outside before it simply becomes to expensive to be a viable fuel source.
Quote from: micky d on September 21, 2008, 10:24:14 PMWell they started to pour water into the Ghawar and Safaniya oil fields about three years ago, and they only do that when the supply's almost exausted, so I give oil 10 years on the outside before it simply becomes to expensive to be a viable fuel source.The water cut at Saudi Arabia's giant Ghawar oil field (by far the worlds largest) is up to 35% and climbing. Yet they still pump 5 million barrels of oil per day out of it. Stupefying that they should rush headlong towards disaster at such a high rate of speed.
diesels sure are more vise choises IMO,as they have lots of torque at any rpm´s,are durable with proper maintenance,dont eat so much compared to gas engine of similar size,and as long as the oil is good,and water/dirt filtration in fuel line is good,and you dont ket the diesel freeze,it serves you well in any condition.
but still,there would be more gas/oil to use,more longer time to use the oil ´reserves if peole would use their common sense.here i see guys driving without any reason,around market squares with big v8´s,and people who live in same area,and go to same job in same factory,at same time,they go each,with their own cars....one guy headin to same place alone in the same car,and another dude follows him with another car.
Quote from: J-sews on September 21, 2008, 11:09:18 PMQuote from: micky d on September 21, 2008, 10:24:14 PMWell they started to pour water into the Ghawar and Safaniya oil fields about three years ago, and they only do that when the supply's almost exausted, so I give oil 10 years on the outside before it simply becomes to expensive to be a viable fuel source.The water cut at Saudi Arabia's giant Ghawar oil field (by far the worlds largest) is up to 35% and climbing. Yet they still pump 5 million barrels of oil per day out of it. Stupefying that they should rush headlong towards disaster at such a high rate of speed. I know, it's like the old Arabic phrase, ''My father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, but my son will ride a camel''What's going to become of the middle east a decade from now when the oil's gone is anyone's guess, but they seem hell bent on making it happen soon
Quote from: micky d on September 21, 2008, 11:14:01 PMQuote from: J-sews on September 21, 2008, 11:09:18 PMQuote from: micky d on September 21, 2008, 10:24:14 PMWell they started to pour water into the Ghawar and Safaniya oil fields about three years ago, and they only do that when the supply's almost exausted, so I give oil 10 years on the outside before it simply becomes to expensive to be a viable fuel source.The water cut at Saudi Arabia's giant Ghawar oil field (by far the worlds largest) is up to 35% and climbing. Yet they still pump 5 million barrels of oil per day out of it. Stupefying that they should rush headlong towards disaster at such a high rate of speed. I know, it's like the old Arabic phrase, ''My father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, but my son will ride a camel''What's going to become of the middle east a decade from now when the oil's gone is anyone's guess, but they seem hell bent on making it happen soon Then there will finally be peace in the Middle east . No more oil=no more money=no more weapons.
there will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.
Quote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 10:59:38 PMthere will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.It's a bleak out look mate, but an accurate one
Quote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:01:41 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 10:59:38 PMthere will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.It's a bleak out look mate, but an accurate one well thats how i feel about it.unless people stop being lazy and greedy,we will have and of the world(for mankind atleast) sooner than if we would think about or selfish acts and this supercharged-consumption.but after we men are gone,the world may start to heal,even just slowly,bit by bit and be like it was at its best days.days before we started to roam the earth.
Quote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 11:06:54 PMQuote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:01:41 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 10:59:38 PMthere will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.It's a bleak out look mate, but an accurate one well thats how i feel about it.unless people stop being lazy and greedy,we will have and of the world(for mankind atleast) sooner than if we would think about or selfish acts and this supercharged-consumption.but after we men are gone,the world may start to heal,even just slowly,bit by bit and be like it was at its best days.days before we started to roam the earth. Your not wrong , but at least some of us are at least trying to take care of the planet now I think our imediate future looks pretty grim, and I'm really worried at what sort of world my son will inherit, but hopefully by the time his children are adult's we'll have arrived at some long term, workable solutions In the meantime prepare for the worst
Quote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:11:01 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 11:06:54 PMQuote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:01:41 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 10:59:38 PMthere will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.It's a bleak out look mate, but an accurate one well thats how i feel about it.unless people stop being lazy and greedy,we will have and of the world(for mankind atleast) sooner than if we would think about or selfish acts and this supercharged-consumption.but after we men are gone,the world may start to heal,even just slowly,bit by bit and be like it was at its best days.days before we started to roam the earth. Your not wrong , but at least some of us are at least trying to take care of the planet now I think our imediate future looks pretty grim, and I'm really worried at what sort of world my son will inherit, but hopefully by the time his children are adult's we'll have arrived at some long term, workable solutions In the meantime prepare for the worst I don't think it is as bad as all that. One thing I never see pointed out is that oil is the most lethal form of energy. Several hundred thousand people have died just in the last 20 years over oil. Atomic energy is far preferable and safer.T Boone Pickens, a Texas oil billionaire is putting his money where his mouth is. He is building a huge wind farm in Texas. His plan is to eventually have enough wind power in the central US to supply 20 percent of our energy needs for electricity. This would free up enough natural gas to power cars more cheaply and cleaner burning. He feels this would be enough to carry us until other forms of energy can be developed. Richard
Quote from: kent ct on September 23, 2008, 12:08:41 AMQuote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:11:01 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 11:06:54 PMQuote from: micky d on September 22, 2008, 11:01:41 PMQuote from: Tarrodemierda on September 22, 2008, 10:59:38 PMthere will be troubles as long as mankind breathes.even if there wouldnt be oil and atomic powerplants,we would still fight for fields to raise the windmill-generators,mountains to lay gigantic solarpower panels on.we would kill to have more waterfall powerplants.the more i see the less i believe.It's a bleak out look mate, but an accurate one well thats how i feel about it.unless people stop being lazy and greedy,we will have and of the world(for mankind atleast) sooner than if we would think about or selfish acts and this supercharged-consumption.but after we men are gone,the world may start to heal,even just slowly,bit by bit and be like it was at its best days.days before we started to roam the earth. Your not wrong , but at least some of us are at least trying to take care of the planet now I think our imediate future looks pretty grim, and I'm really worried at what sort of world my son will inherit, but hopefully by the time his children are adult's we'll have arrived at some long term, workable solutions In the meantime prepare for the worst I don't think it is as bad as all that. One thing I never see pointed out is that oil is the most lethal form of energy. Several hundred thousand people have died just in the last 20 years over oil. Atomic energy is far preferable and safer.T Boone Pickens, a Texas oil billionaire is putting his money where his mouth is. He is building a huge wind farm in Texas. His plan is to eventually have enough wind power in the central US to supply 20 percent of our energy needs for electricity. This would free up enough natural gas to power cars more cheaply and cleaner burning. He feels this would be enough to carry us until other forms of energy can be developed. Richardwell im all in for wind energy,they even sunk the mills into rivers and flowing seas,and thats pretty clever.id choose atomic energy too.if id had to cgoose between burning processes and atomic power.