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Cadets - Too good to be true?

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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
Ships from Denmark and Portugal, if you're willing to wait.

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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 01:07:06 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vICTORINOX-CADET-SILVER-ALOX-SWISS-ARMY-POCKET-KNIFE-84-MM-9-TOOLS-/232399108686?hash=item361c10fa4e:g:ZEsAAOSwwvZZXd2b

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORINOX-CADET-SILVER-ALOX-SWISS-ARMY-POCKET-KNIFE-84-MM-9-TOOLS-/292168860828?hash=item44069f049c:g:0hEAAOSwSzRZVzx8

So tempting, but I've got this feeling...

Maybe I'll wait to see if any positive feedback shows up from those who've purchased. Would be nice if these are legit.

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Based in Denmark, tekicakalogl0 has been an eBay member since Jul 12, 2016

He's got only 10 reviews. All positive, but only 10...
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Both are FREE Economy Shipping from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan. Stock footage, probably from Victorinox.

Hum... tempting but I don't like it.

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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
I've seen similar listings lately. The ones with reviews are probably hijacked accounts.
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 04:35:25 PM
Stay away from these, and  DO NOT SEND MONEY !

Here is the genuine listing that they both copied from (and it wasn't $9.99 or $10.99) :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351936298649
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Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 04:40:35 PM


That's why I still haven't bought any of the €100- Rolex/Omega I find online...
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 07:48:10 PM
"He's got only 10 reviews. All positive, but only 10..."

And, actually, I think all those + reviews are as a buyer, not seller.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 07:52:32 PM
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That's why I still haven't bought any of the €100- Rolex/Omega I find online...

True. However, I have found some miracle deals on ebay, (like a horizontal ribbed [Old Shield] Cadet II as part of a vintage lot, all for $25 shipped, btw, the Cadet II was in like new condition, all were, actually).

But, yeah, I think these cadet deals are scams. Will keep an eye on them to see how they play out.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 07:56:17 PM
I wouldn't risk it if it were me, you never know though!


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 08:04:43 PM
 If it's fake eBay will remove it.
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Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 11:31:01 PM
If it's fake eBay will remove it.

Only if they get some reports about it .......
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Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 03:22:18 AM
 Well, if anyone does take the plunge and gets burned, eBay & PayPal (any credit card) should cover it.

In these cases, while there's not much by way of reviews, there sure aren't a bunch of negative reviews.

We'll see. If I do see positive reviews start coming in, I'll buy up a dozen in a heartbeat.


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Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 06:12:24 AM
Well, if anyone does take the plunge and gets burned, eBay & PayPal (any credit card) should cover it.

In these cases, while there's not much by way of reviews, there sure aren't a bunch of negative reviews.

We'll see. If I do see positive reviews start coming in, I'll buy up a dozen in a heartbeat.

The seller is actually after your personal information, especially linked with your ebay account name. A lot of peoples' accounts can be compromised through this alone, or combined with Google and social engineering. Not to mention your information is a commodity traded among many entities worldwide.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 09:55:02 AM

"The seller is actually after your personal information, especially linked with your ebay account name. A lot of peoples' accounts can be compromised through this alone, or combined with Google and social engineering. Not to mention your information is a commodity traded among many entities worldwide."

Could be. They wouldn't get far with me, though, since I limit my eBay activity to my PayPal, and I keep all that activity isolated. While I have dealt with bogus sellers in the past, none have ever compromised my account(s), yet. Because of my old line of work, I tend to increase monitoring after questionable incidents, just in case. Helps to have monitoring services, too.  ;)


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Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
The seller is actually after your personal information, especially linked with your ebay account name. A lot of peoples' accounts can be compromised through this alone, or combined with Google and social engineering. Not to mention your information is a commodity traded among many entities worldwide.

Thanks, that makes sense to me.  I've often wondered what benefit these scam sellers could be getting from these bogus listings, as obviously ebay/paypal will refund buyers and the seller ends up with no money, so I figured there had to be another angle that I couldn't see.  Doing this they get a legit paypal account, with the matching name and address - that provides a good start for some identity theft for a not completely dumb criminal.
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
...I've often wondered what benefit these scam sellers could be getting from these bogus listings, as obviously ebay/paypal will refund buyers and the seller ends up with no money, so I figured there had to be another angle that I couldn't see.  Doing this they get a legit paypal account, with the matching name and address - that provides a good start for some identity theft for a not completely dumb criminal.
Unfortunately, it's been an ongoing practice for some time, but not just here (eBay/PayPal), any credit card purchase will do, which is why it's a hassle when stores get hacked. Isolating specific cards to/for specific purchases helps, even assigning low credit limit cards to online purchases. Credit card companies have really gotten good about notifying you regarding questionable use. eBay/PayPal focus on this risk, along with a few other things, every time these sorts of sellers pop up. And, again, monitoring services are always helpful.

I'm more concerned with social media (Facebook, etc). Those areas are the gifts that keep on giving (credit card/purchase links, location/vacation status, family/friends, etc). Excellent hunting grounds.

Not to worry, once the White House gets all the voter rolls (with complete info), identity thieves won't need to go through "small-time" eBay, LOL!


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
...I've often wondered what benefit these scam sellers could be getting from these bogus listings, as obviously ebay/paypal will refund buyers and the seller ends up with no money, so I figured there had to be another angle that I couldn't see.  Doing this they get a legit paypal account, with the matching name and address - that provides a good start for some identity theft for a not completely dumb criminal.
Unfortunately, it's been an ongoing practice for some time, but not just here (eBay/PayPal), any credit card purchase will do, which is why it's a hassle when stores get hacked. Isolating specific cards to/for specific purchases helps, even assigning low credit limit cards to online purchases. Credit card companies have really gotten good about notifying you regarding questionable use. eBay/PayPal focus on this risk, along with a few other things, every time these sorts of sellers pop up. And, again, monitoring services are always helpful.

I'm more concerned with social media (Facebook, etc). Those areas are the gifts that keep on giving (credit card/purchase links, location/vacation status, family/friends, etc). Excellent hunting grounds.

Not to worry, once the White House gets all the voter rolls (with complete info), identity thieves won't need to go through "small-time" eBay, LOL!
So what do you suggest? Nobody vote?  :think:
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #17 on: July 08, 2017, 09:20:38 PM
So what do you suggest? Nobody vote?  :think:
Not to get too far off topic, but we shouldn't be exposed to identity theft, voter suppression, etc, when exercising our right to vote, just my opinion. I'm sure others may see turning over voter rolls differently.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #18 on: July 08, 2017, 10:42:58 PM
Well, one of the them is already sold out while the other one already sold 5 between yesterday and today. Probably all to MT members.. :rofl:
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #19 on: July 09, 2017, 01:43:10 AM
Well, one of the them is already sold out while the other one already sold 5 between yesterday and today. Probably all to MT members.. :rofl:
Still hoping for positive results/reviews. My buy-it-now finger is really twitching. With my luck, by the time reviews come in, they'll all be gone.


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Reply #20 on: July 09, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
Well, one of the them is already sold out while the other one already sold 5 between yesterday and today. Probably all to MT members.. :rofl:
Still hoping for positive results/reviews. My buy-it-now finger is really twitching. With my luck, by the time reviews come in, they'll all be gone.

Seriously ?   ???   After reading the above posts you would still consider "buying" one of these from an obvious scammer ????

If you are really that gullible I can do you a great deal on the Sydney Harbour Bridge  :pok:   :rofl:
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #21 on: July 09, 2017, 11:57:15 AM
Well, if anyone does take the plunge and gets burned, eBay & PayPal (any credit card) should cover it.

In these cases, while there's not much by way of reviews, there sure aren't a bunch of negative reviews.

We'll see. If I do see positive reviews start coming in, I'll buy up a dozen in a heartbeat.

The seller is actually after your personal information, especially linked with your ebay account name. A lot of peoples' accounts can be compromised through this alone, or combined with Google and social engineering. Not to mention your information is a commodity traded among many entities worldwide.

Wow, this is eye opening, thanks.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 01:26:19 PM
Well, one of the them is already sold out while the other one already sold 5 between yesterday and today. Probably all to MT members.. :rofl:
Still hoping for positive results/reviews. My buy-it-now finger is really twitching. With my luck, by the time reviews come in, they'll all be gone.


Don''t worry, this 'deal' will repeat itself soon. I've seen it dozens of times so far this year. Most auctions end up getting canceled by ebay.


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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #23 on: July 10, 2017, 11:42:49 PM
Well, that's that. The $10.99 sale has been pulled. Maybe next time.


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Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 02:52:31 AM
Well, that's that. The $10.99 sale has been pulled. Maybe next time.

Are you just trolling or what ?
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Re: Cadets - Too good to be true?
Reply #25 on: July 11, 2017, 03:07:38 AM
There's always hope that one day there may be a legitimate deal....

Until then there's Paypal Protection. 

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Reply #26 on: July 11, 2017, 05:11:22 AM
There's always hope that one day there may be a legitimate deal....

Until then there's Paypal Protection. 

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Reply #27 on: July 11, 2017, 01:32:23 PM
There's always hope that one day there may be a legitimate deal....

Until then there's Paypal Protection. 

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But as previously stated, Paypal "protection" won't protect you from identity theft ....    :(
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Reply #28 on: July 12, 2017, 01:09:22 AM
Well, that's that. The $10.99 sale has been pulled. Maybe next time.

Seriously ?   ???   After reading the above posts you would still consider "buying" one of these from an obvious scammer ????

Are you just trolling or what ?

But as previously stated, Paypal "protection" won't protect you from identity theft ....    :(

I don't know what your problem is, but maybe you should drink a nice warm cup of STFU.

On eBay, there are a lot deals that might look like scams, but end up being legit.
As for identity theft, NOTHING guarantees against it, but protective measures DO exist. Btw, with every credit card purchase, there's risk of identity theft.
It appears you're being the troll.

If you have any other issues, feel free to PM me, so I can tell you how I really feel about your dumb ass.
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