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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #120 on: May 21, 2021, 10:55:49 PM
General opinion is that we all miss the grey one...and the longer Phillips.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #121 on: May 22, 2021, 12:24:29 AM
Quote from: Max Stone on May 21, 2021, 10:55:49 PM
General opinion is that we all miss the grey one...and the longer Phillips.
I guess it was my wishful thinking...

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #122 on: May 22, 2021, 02:55:27 AM
I for one, prefer the "new" glass lens (version 3, if I'm not mistaken) over the one that came in the grey lens holder (version 1).

And I own 4 SAKs with the version 3 magnifying lens and none of them falls out of the holder (you do feel that the lens could be removed if you really wanted to).



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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #123 on: May 22, 2021, 03:29:28 AM
Quote from: Max Stone on May 21, 2021, 10:55:49 PM
General opinion is that we all miss the grey one...and the longer Phillips.

I have several older cheap, toy-grade RC cars in which that the old-style in-line Phillips (ala Marlboro Outdoorsman and my mid-'90s SwissChamp) can reach the deeply inset screw, but a modern one (i.e. my Champion and Explorer) can't.  Need to pick up an older Explorer.

This is what annoys me, however. The current file is one of the best files on the market, but you can't get both the old mag lens and new file with older SAKs, aside from some rare transitional models.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #124 on: May 22, 2021, 06:46:12 AM
Quote from: Top-Gear-24 on May 22, 2021, 02:55:27 AM
I for one, prefer the "new" glass lens (version 3, if I'm not mistaken) over the one that came in the grey lens holder (version 1).

And I own 4 SAKs with the version 3 magnifying lens and none of them falls out of the holder (you do feel that the lens could be removed if you really wanted to).
What do you prefer about it?

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #125 on: May 22, 2021, 08:36:41 AM
Quote from: Top-Gear-24 on May 22, 2021, 02:55:27 AM
I for one, prefer the "new" glass lens (version 3, if I'm not mistaken) over the one that came in the grey lens holder (version 1).

I agree, the larger diameter and lower magnification means that the magnified area is wider and more "forgiving" in terms of pointing/focusing making the magnifier much more useable. My only gripe is that it's very difficult to distinguish from version 2 (molded plastic) on ebay pics.

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #126 on: May 22, 2021, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: ComboTool on May 22, 2021, 08:36:41 AM
I agree, the larger diameter and lower magnification means that the magnified area is wider and more "forgiving" in terms of pointing/focusing making the magnifier much more useable. My only gripe is that it's very difficult to distinguish from version 2 (molded plastic) on ebay pics.

I could not have eplained my preference for the version 3 lens any better than how you said it  :salute:.

And I share your gripe about figuring out whether you're buying a plastic V2 lens or a glass V3 one.  If the seller shows real pics of the tool I get it right about 90% of the time (using the method I explained earlier in this topic). But sometimes they use stock photo's, in which case I walk away...

Same problem when I'm buying from an online shop, most of the time they will keep using old pics while the tool has seen 3 "upgrades", and trying to explain the difference between the lenses to an online shop employee who has no idea what you're on about only makes you look like a crazy person... (been there  ::)).
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #127 on: May 22, 2021, 04:54:01 PM
Work in progress.

I plan to make the mount a little shorter so I can use this paired with the longer Phillips. So basically the size of the grey magnifier but with the larger lens.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #128 on: May 22, 2021, 07:16:28 PM
Just needs a polish and ready to epoxy into the frame.  :tu:
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #129 on: May 22, 2021, 09:37:51 PM
 :like: :like: Nice work, Max! I’m thinking of doing something similar to put a magnifier into a Pioneer X, when I can find time….
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #130 on: May 22, 2021, 11:57:16 PM
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #131 on: March 28, 2022, 08:12:03 PM
Hello :)
Sorry for digging such old topic. I want to buy my first SAK, and I chose Explorer due to it tool configuration (IMO perfect in office environment I work in). During research I found this topic and it looks like Victorinox addressed lens issue but maybe someone can confirm this is no longer an issue? I visited Victorinox store in my city today (in Poland) and the sample unit in store have lens that looked like the one with notches and tabs (posted above in post #97). As I touched it it felt little rattly, however didn't pop out. So is there a way to be sure that this problem is really addressed by Victorinox?

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #132 on: March 28, 2022, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: Max Stone on May 22, 2021, 07:16:28 PM
Just needs a polish and ready to epoxy into the frame.  :tu:

Nicely done Max! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #133 on: March 29, 2022, 04:13:15 AM
Quote from: Miki on March 28, 2022, 08:12:03 PM
Hello :)
Sorry for digging such old topic. I want to buy my first SAK, and I chose Explorer due to it tool configuration (IMO perfect in office environment I work in). During research I found this topic and it looks like Victorinox addressed lens issue but maybe someone can confirm this is no longer an issue? I visited Victorinox store in my city today (in Poland) and the sample unit in store have lens that looked like the one with notches and tabs (posted above in post #97). As I touched it it felt little rattly, however didn't pop out. So is there a way to be sure that this problem is really addressed by Victorinox?

I have carried an Explorer with the clear frame, glass lens, and 10 retaining tabs for over nine months and I've never had a problem with the lens falling out or even being loose in the frame. I'm confident that Victorinox has fixed the issue in their newer knives.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #134 on: March 29, 2022, 06:13:23 AM
I didn't know that they changed the lens again. Presumably it has better quality now (less aberrations) since it is glass again?
All my grey lenses have new owners now (1 lost, 2 stolen) and the 3 I have are one-piece. I don't care much, since I EDC the best 10x triplet existing but that grey lens was iconic I think.

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #135 on: March 29, 2022, 06:05:43 PM
I was testing the resistance of my Explorer yesterday. It was fine. Tried to put some pressure sideways, and opening and closing it violently. It seems as strong as ever.

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #136 on: March 29, 2022, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: kkokkolis on March 29, 2022, 06:13:23 AM
I didn't know that they changed the lens again. Presumably it has better quality now (less aberrations) since it is glass again?
All my grey lenses have new owners now (1 lost, 2 stolen) and the 3 I have are one-piece. I don't care much, since I EDC the best 10x triplet existing but that grey lens was iconic I think.


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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #137 on: March 29, 2022, 08:33:20 PM
Yes they changed it again about a year ago.  It's still clear but fully molded around the lens so it can't be removed. I have to cut the plastic now to remove it.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #138 on: March 29, 2022, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 29, 2022, 08:33:20 PM
Yes they changed it again about a year ago.  It's still clear but fully molded around the lens so it can't be removed. I have to cut the plastic now to remove it.

Can you post a close up photo of it?

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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #139 on: March 29, 2022, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Miki on March 29, 2022, 08:50:39 PM
Can you post a close up photo of it?

Yup.  It looks the same but the older kind had alternating plastic nibs, but now it's a solid ring molded around.
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #140 on: March 30, 2022, 03:00:43 AM
Wow, I haven’t seen that version yet. That solution seems so obvious to me that I wonder why Victorinox didn’t make it that way from the beginning? Especially since the old gray magnifier was held in place the same way.



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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #141 on: April 07, 2022, 02:25:18 PM
The old grey magnifier it ain’t what it used to be
ain’t what it used to be
ain’t what it used to be  :whistle:
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Re: New Style Magnifying Lens Issue
Reply #142 on: April 08, 2022, 02:54:17 AM
Is the newer lens as strong as the gray framed one or like the one piece version?

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