My last thought, or at least the last one I am going to share in this post, before my inner conspiracy theorist starts showing itself, is the firearms themselves. Why, in the name of all that is holy, does Hollywood even still use real firearms? You don't have to watch a lot of Adam Savages YouTube channel to see that props can be made that are indistinguishable from the real thing easily. So, why use real firearms at all, knowing there is the potential for something like this to happen? Especially when considering the wanton disregard for proper and safe firearms handling that is the mainstay of the movie industry? Not to mention the potential for CGI nowadays that could draw in muzzle flashes after the fact.
Puppet aliens in Star Wars from 1977 still look more realistic than CGI of the current day.
Despite his politics, which I will admit I never agreed with, he now has to live out the rest of his life knowing he has caused the death of someone else- an innocent someone, who meant him no harm. Unless he is a complete sociopath, this is going to haunt him greatly, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, let alone someone I think is just another Hollywood phony wind bag.
Why in the world would there even be live rounds any where on the set of a movie let alone in a gun used in the movie.
He is an actor, he is there to act, surely it is someone else's responsibility (the armourer?) to ensure the firearms are safe? I believe he was handed the gun and told it was "cold" meaning unloaded.* A gun in the hands of actor is a prop.I have also heard rumours that there have already been two previous gun safety incidents on set and and some staff had quit over concerns.* I have seen a "blank" round pop a balloon from about 5 metres away.
I do find it somewhat hypocritical when Hollywood actors make millions of dollars using firearms in an unsafe manner on film, then spend their off time trying to have forearms firearms banned.
I guess we will just have to wait to find out. When a firearm becomes a prop is it no longer a firearm?Can it be both?Should a prop firearm be treated as an actual firearm (ie treat as loaded, point in a safe direction, identify your target etc)?
The only person I trust is myself. I could never take the word of another when handling firearms. At my club, we check always to ensure a firearm is safe, and I will do it even if the guy who wants to show me his new pew pew checked it safe infront of me.
When a firearm becomes a prop is it no longer a firearm?Can it be both?
The ultimate responsibility for the death of this woman lies with the man who cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger.It's striking that this anti-second amendment actor,Alec Baldwin, was the man who carelessly and perhaps negligently fired that weapon while aiming the muzzle at a human being.People such as Baldwin,who work to eliminate the legal,private ownership of firearms by American citizens,apparently has no clue how to ascertain if a weapon is safe or not.Or was he in hurry to get the the scene shot,so he threw the most salient safety protocol,determining if the weapon was "hot", out the window?All of the people I know,who are advocates for our Second Amendment,would have never made this mistake.We never take the word of another person to determine if a weapon is safe or not.We make that determination ourselves because we abide by the ten commandments of safety.Something that Baldwin didn't take the few minutes of time to do.As a result of Baldwin's actions,an innocent woman lies dead and anther person wounded.
THIS!!!!!!!!!Even in Hollywood movies, the actors are coached to NEVER aim at the person they are supposed to be shooting. Its all a sham with camera angles that don't show from the shooters perspective that they are actually aiming off to the side of the target. Even blanks can injure, so the gun, even with the blanks, is NEVER EVER aimed at a live person. And this was NOT an accidental discharge. A single action revolver has to be manually cocked to be ready to fire. WHY did Baldwin cock the gun and point it at the people?Even if someone put a live round in the old Colt single action, Baldwins actions alone was the major contributor to the death. He alone cocked and pulled the trigger while pointing the gun at a human being. Was he stupid enough to joke around with what he thought was an empty gun? Apparently he was. Many hundreds of westerns have been made with nobody actually getting killed. John Wayne to Tom Seleck have a perfect safety record. All the shooing done on classics like "The Magnificent Seven" to "The Wild Bunch" had literally hundreds of rounds shot off, without so much as a blister from pulling the trigger so much. Baldwin shoots a low budget flick while cutting corners and someone gets killed. This after a couple of accidental discharges that scared some people. Baldwin has some questions to answer.
Utter rubbish. You all just have an axe to grind because of his stance on gun ownership.We'll let the courts see who is at fault.Most of the rest of the world shakes their head every time there is a mass shooting in the US, it happens far too often and attitudes like yours enable it.
Ignorance? You're the ignorant old fool.Dick.
Personal attacks and name calling will not be tolerated ..period.
your ignorance
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I share Def's sympathy for Mr Baldwin. If he was given a weapon and told it was "cold", I can't blame him, but I'm wiling to bet he blames himself anyway.I'm assuming he is not familiar with firearms and would not have known how to check for himself. He was trusting a third party (who I think was new on the job). I also have to wonder why there was any live ammunition on the set. That there was suggests extreme negligence at best, or possibly malign intent. Regardless, a real tragedy.
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