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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #240 on: April 05, 2009, 02:29:36 AM
Sounds good to me.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #241 on: April 12, 2009, 01:32:24 AM
Hey Bob I just got a 0393 and NA PST :D Yep 1 side has a datecode the other doesn't :ahhh :tu: and It also has a saber point blade :o So I guess that pretty well nails down that they swapped over from saber to clip point either sometime in 93 or at the first of 94 cause my other PST has (rather had when I first got it and not has again) a clip point blade :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #242 on: April 12, 2009, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 12, 2009, 01:32:24 AM
Hey Bob I just got a 0393 and NA PST :D Yep 1 side has a datecode the other doesn't :ahhh :tu: and It also has a saber point blade :o So I guess that pretty well nails down that they swapped over from saber to clip point either sometime in 93 or at the first of 94 cause my other PST has (rather had when I first got it and not has again) a clip point blade :cheers:

Sounds like a real special one there Ponch! :tu:

BTW, the earliest actual date code anyone has reported is 1192
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #243 on: April 12, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
Guess that makes the 1 leg from 1092 and before :D I believe that when you asked the big man himself he said that is when they started doing it anywyas right :think: :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #244 on: April 12, 2009, 03:59:13 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 12, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
Guess that makes the 1 leg from 1092 and before :D I believe that when you asked the big man himself he said that is when they started doing it anywyas right :think: :D

Yes, that is correct. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #245 on: April 27, 2009, 04:02:44 AM
Here`s a PST I got in this week. It is in really good shape.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #246 on: April 27, 2009, 04:28:59 AM
 :tu: Very nice oldie David :cheers: It's funny how the really old ones aside from some differences in looks of the tools and some different pat numbers look exactly like the newer ones :o
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #247 on: April 28, 2009, 04:34:06 AM
Nice vintage one there David! :tu:  What it's missing is what makes it the most valuable. :)   (the lanyard attachment)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #248 on: April 28, 2009, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: J-sews on April 28, 2009, 04:34:06 AM
Nice vintage one there David! :tu:  What it's missing is what makes it the most valuable. :)   (the lanyard attachment)

Yeah that is always a good way to spot them even when they are closed :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #249 on: April 28, 2009, 06:19:01 AM
Thank you Poncho and J-sews. I first noticed this one because the legs were a little wider than normal then noticed the lack of a landyard attachment plus the plier head had that look. Thats all I had to go by because in the photo none of the tools were opened up so could`nt see the can opener or knife blade. So I was hoping it was what it looked like and it was. I`m pleased with it. Plus I got it cheap. I guess one else knew what they were bidding on. But if it wasnt for this thread I wouldnt have known either. I`ve studied this thread alot. Thank you to every one who has contributed to it. It is a wealth of information that can be found no where else.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #250 on: April 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I have learnt  alot because of this thread :tu:

I can spot an old PST at 50 paces now (figuratively speaking of course ;) :D )

The number of variations can become mind numbing though :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #251 on: April 29, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I have learnt  alot because of this thread :tu:

I can spot an old PST at 50 paces now (figuratively speaking of course ;) :D )

The number of variations can become mind numbing though :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D


So that explains why my mind is so numb! :P
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #252 on: April 29, 2009, 04:47:19 AM
Quote from: J-sews on April 29, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I have learnt  alot because of this thread :tu:

I can spot an old PST at 50 paces now (figuratively speaking of course ;) :D )

The number of variations can become mind numbing though :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D


So that explains why my mind is so numb! :P

 ::) :D

It is funny though that I can spot 1 on Ebay so easily now :o  :think: Just can't ever seem to win any of them >:( :D

I must be too cheap on them ::)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #253 on: April 30, 2009, 01:59:58 AM
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #254 on: May 07, 2009, 12:10:47 AM
Per Poncho65's request, here are some pictures of my riveted PST, which I got from WH867:


That's the PST on the left, and a Pulse on the right.


Left to right: LM Blast, SOG Powerlock, LM PST, LM Pulse


A close up.


Top to bottom: Blast, Crunch, PST.


Top to bottom: Blast, Crunch, PST.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #255 on: May 08, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
Thank you for the pics sir :salute: :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #256 on: June 23, 2009, 03:24:46 PM
•   Rivets or knurled screws?  Knurled screws.
•   Lanyard attachment?   Yes
•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?   Old
•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?  Leatherman USA
•   A hard wire cutter notch?  Yes, no arrow.
•   Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples)  Leatherman Tool   Portland OR
•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?  Inch/metric
•   Date codes?  Yes, 1096 inside both handles.
•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)  Clip point (shorter), half serrated
•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?  Leatherman USA

It also has scissors, and the diamond-coated file, so I've always assumed it is a PST II, but it isn't marked so.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #257 on: June 23, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Someone who knows better might come along and tell you different, but I think the older PST II weren't marked as such.  It still sounds like a PST II to me.  (great tool BTW  :tu:)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #258 on: June 23, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
Quote from: Gareth on June 23, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Someone who knows better might come along and tell you different, but I think the older PST II weren't marked as such.  It still sounds like a PST II to me.  (great tool BTW  :tu:)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #259 on: June 24, 2009, 12:58:50 AM
Yep my PST II is marked like a reg PST as well :tu: Still a good find as I love that file :D :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #260 on: August 01, 2009, 05:06:00 AM
More rivets. 8).
   
   
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #261 on: August 01, 2009, 06:16:00 AM
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More rivets. 8).

Nice! And more staked pivots too! :multi:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #262 on: August 01, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
 :tu: Sweet Dennis :cheers: I have a PST on the way possibly a riveted but can't get my hopes up to high as the pic wasn't the best :D I especially like the Pocket Survival Tool writing :drool: :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #263 on: August 08, 2009, 02:49:42 AM
Well I got the PST in and it was riveted and large font but the shape of the tool isn't the best :( you really can't tell from the pics I took :) Still it will fill the hole until I can get 1 in better shape :tu:







Also interesting is that the shape of the plier head in it is so much different than the 1 on my older PST :o



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #264 on: August 08, 2009, 03:05:46 PM
Congrats on scoring a big fonter Ponch! :cheers: Looks like that one has a bit of "history" to it. Maybe a little TLC with some WD40 and a toothbrush will help?

Yah, definitely a noticable difference in the plier heads. The Japanese made ones look more delicate. (elegant to look at, but probably not as good for hard duty?) :-\

Oh, and and funny that you have an old USA-made one without a lanyard ring, and an old Japanese one with! :)   
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #265 on: August 08, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
Thankfully the old USA 1 is near mint :drool: :D It would take more than a toothbrush to fix it I am afraid :( Part of the handle on the file side of the tool that holds the tools open in place is sadly gone :-[ Wasn't told in the description but I am sure they never checked it because it was a seizure :-\ It did come with a nice old school leather sheath though :tu:
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Reply #266 on: August 08, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
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Reply #267 on: August 08, 2009, 10:49:09 PM
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #268 on: August 27, 2009, 05:26:14 PM
Finally got around too taking some pics of my SS PST with CC.
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I was a bit surprised to see the difference in the crimping hole when comparing the common BO PST with CC , with the hen's teeth stainless version  :think:.
I had wondered whether the SS versions had just missed the BO bin when thrown by the factory worker  :P. Clearly when comparing the blade & tools the SS version is a lot older than the BO PST(date stamp 0300). Looking at Davek's BO PST with CC his crimper hole looks like the same as my older SS PST's one  :think: :think: :think: :think:. See below.


Some other differences between my 2 Cap crimper PST's
Blade types
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Phillips head grind
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Awl grind
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There was some small differences in the two PST's taper on the straight screw drivers  :think:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #269 on: August 27, 2009, 07:23:36 PM
Wow! That bit about the different style crimp holes is something I hadn't noticed before. Nice catch! As soon as I'm back home I'll check mine. :)
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