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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3450 on: April 22, 2017, 02:25:05 PM
Do you recognize them all?





only the first 2

in other not so brilliant news, i was ready to order a jaakaripuukko 110 but my phone decided to take a leap of faith that didn't end so well  :twak: :twak: :twak: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Solving problems you didn't know you had in the most obscure way possible

"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3451 on: April 22, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Well, this is it, folks... I finally did it...  :mail:

So, the postman was kind enough to bring THIS one in...
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 :o  :ahhh  :think:

Ooo, what is it I hear you ask...


Lo and behold! Varusteleka Terävä Skrama is here!
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That smurfing thing is huge... The handle is like 1 1/2 hand grip, and I have shovels for hands :P



Description:
    Skrama - as in Scramasax or Seax, a short, single edged sword popular in the Middle Ages. Much like the Scandinavian Leuku it doubles up as a tool and weapon.
    A fine name is always nice and the best ones are those with some history behind them - our 21st century Skrama would surely meet the demands of any Saxon
    man from "ye good  olde days".

Some specs:
    Total length: 430 mm.
    Weight: 525 g (knife only).
    Blade: length 240 mm, width 46 mm, thickness 4,2 mm.
    Edge: 34° for chopping, 25° at the base for finer work.
    Steel: Carbon steel 80CrV2, 59 HRC
    Grip: Moulded rubber, rough texture for a good grip.

Here's a bit of a comparison pic to convey the actual size of that huge smurf :D

Anyways, here goes... Varusteleka Terävä Skrama with (from top left):
Marttiini Leuku 250/2 (early 90's)
Gerber MP600 DET
Victorinox Explorer
Victorinox Farmer
Leatherman Crater C33TX
SOG SwitchPlier



Enjoy  :D
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Always posting random things,
I'm AlephZero" :ninja:


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3452 on: April 22, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
perfect bacon knife
Solving problems you didn't know you had in the most obscure way possible

"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3453 on: April 22, 2017, 09:57:51 PM
Nice gent! Beautiful blades!
Packing a Mora.
Nate

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3454 on: April 22, 2017, 10:22:59 PM
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3455 on: April 22, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
Thanks friend!
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3456 on: April 23, 2017, 01:02:48 AM
Do you recognize them all?





only the first 2


- Adventures of Robin Hood - Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone

- Princess Bride - Cary Elwes and Mandy Patinkin

- Court Jester - Danny Kaye and Basil Rathbone (again) (A great send up of swashbucklers.) "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with pestle..."

- Scaramouche - Stewart Granger and Mel Ferrer  (Granger was also outstanding in Prisoner of Zenda)


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3457 on: April 23, 2017, 01:16:13 PM
Do you recognize them all?





only the first 2


- Adventures of Robin Hood - Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone

- Princess Bride - Cary Elwes and Mandy Patinkin

- Court Jester - Danny Kaye and Basil Rathbone (again) (A great send up of swashbucklers.) "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with pestle..."

- Scaramouche - Stewart Granger and Mel Ferrer  (Granger was also outstanding in Prisoner of Zenda)
I knew Basil and Errol and Danny Kaye, but only knew the first movie.
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3458 on: April 23, 2017, 10:50:52 PM
Do you recognize them all?





only the first 2


- Adventures of Robin Hood - Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone

- Princess Bride - Cary Elwes and Mandy Patinkin

- Court Jester - Danny Kaye and Basil Rathbone (again) (A great send up of swashbucklers.) "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with pestle..."

- Scaramouche - Stewart Granger and Mel Ferrer  (Granger was also outstanding in Prisoner of Zenda)
I knew Basil and Errol and Danny Kaye, but only knew the first movie.

All worth seeing!  Also Burt Lancaster in 'The Crimson Pirate'. "There are 200 Royal Marines on this ship"
                                                                                                   "And 23 pirates. That puts the odds slightly in my favor."



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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3459 on: April 24, 2017, 01:13:02 AM
Do you recognize them all?





only the first 2


- Adventures of Robin Hood - Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone

- Princess Bride - Cary Elwes and Mandy Patinkin

- Court Jester - Danny Kaye and Basil Rathbone (again) (A great send up of swashbucklers.) "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with pestle..."

- Scaramouche - Stewart Granger and Mel Ferrer  (Granger was also outstanding in Prisoner of Zenda)
I knew Basil and Errol and Danny Kaye, but only knew the first movie.

All worth seeing!  Also Burt Lancaster in 'The Crimson Pirate'. "There are 200 Royal Marines on this ship"
                                                                                                   "And 23 pirates. That puts the odds slightly in my favor."

Love these movies!!!    :duel:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3460 on: April 24, 2017, 06:27:02 AM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 



The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.




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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3461 on: April 24, 2017, 01:48:01 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)
  :like: thanks for the link, that was interesting.
I like the look of these, are they very old? I might look around for one.
Andrew


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3462 on: April 24, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)
  :like: thanks for the link, that was interesting.
I like the look of these, are they very old? I might look around for one.


You're welcome! BF is a great place to research these knives. So is this site: 
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/

Most Schrade collectors hang out in those two places

The Schrade Walden stamped knives were produced '46-'73.   The 165UH Uncle Henry (Prospector) was made (69-70) and shipped between in 69-73. The Schrade Walden 165OT (Woodsman) was made between '67-'73.

The 165OT Woodsman was made from '67 to '91. The second knife from the bottom is a post '73 example.

I don't have current dates for the Sears/Craftsman versions but thy would fall somewhere between that '67-'91 date range.

The last USA, factory made Schrade of any kind was made '03-'04 when Schrade closed it's doors. Parts inventories were purchased and some knives continued to appear after that but usually with non std Schrade scales and sheaths.

Hope this helps!  :cheers:
- Robert




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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3463 on: April 24, 2017, 09:32:54 PM
Neat knives!   :tu:


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3464 on: April 24, 2017, 09:44:03 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)





how did i miss these beauties?!
Solving problems you didn't know you had in the most obscure way possible

"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3465 on: April 24, 2017, 10:41:59 PM
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Reply #3466 on: April 24, 2017, 10:50:27 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)





how did i miss these beauties?!

Thx Styx!!!  A lot of guys that collect and use these think they are the quintessential American deer knife....would probably make quick work of a big feral as well!!!!   :salute:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3467 on: April 24, 2017, 11:19:26 PM
Schrade Little Finger with left-over original blade and assembled in China. Looks like they did a good job.  Even the sheath is well made.



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Reply #3468 on: April 24, 2017, 11:55:20 PM
Schrade Little Finger with left-over original blade and assembled in China. Looks like they did a good job.  Even the sheath is well made.

What an awesome little knife!!!  :cheers: :cheers:  :drool: :drool:
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Reply #3469 on: April 25, 2017, 03:57:30 AM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

(Image removed from quote.)

The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)
  :like: thanks for the link, that was interesting.
I like the look of these, are they very old? I might look around for one.


You're welcome! BF is a great place to research these knives. So is this site: 
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/

Most Schrade collectors hang out in those two places

The Schrade Walden stamped knives were produced '46-'73.   The 165UH Uncle Henry (Prospector) was made (69-70) and shipped between in 69-73. The Schrade Walden 165OT (Woodsman) was made between '67-'73.

The 165OT Woodsman was made from '67 to '91. The second knife from the bottom is a post '73 example.

I don't have current dates for the Sears/Craftsman versions but thy would fall somewhere between that '67-'91 date range.

The last USA, factory made Schrade of any kind was made '03-'04 when Schrade closed it's doors. Parts inventories were purchased and some knives continued to appear after that but usually with non std Schrade scales and sheaths.

Hope this helps!  :cheers:

Yes thank you. I like them all, but probably the older ones more since I like knives with vintage. I'm also hoping to get one of their 50's era pilot survival knives ( like the H-15 but with double guard). Thanks for the dates and info. :cheers:
Andrew


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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3470 on: April 25, 2017, 05:47:24 AM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

(Image removed from quote.)

The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)


Amazing collection of 165's Robert! I really enjoy looking at them. Thanks for refreshing my memory with the history lesson. I'd forgotten some of that Schrade history. Got to many wabbit trails and holes in the knife world at the moment to process it all. I seem to be alll over the place.    :D    Maybe I should get more focused.     :think:      :D
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3471 on: April 25, 2017, 05:54:46 AM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

(Image removed from quote.)

The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)


Sweet collection  :tu: :tu:


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Reply #3472 on: April 25, 2017, 06:12:39 PM
Thank you David and Steve!!!  :cheers: :cheers: I enjoyed posting them!!  :salute:
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Reply #3473 on: April 25, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
This thread is DANGEROUS!  Last night, after looking at Robert's collection of Schrade hunting knives, I went into ebay and started looking at prices. Earlier it was Ka-Bars. Its bad enough I've gotten back into picking up non-SAK folders, particularly Cases, on a regular basis. I don't need the trouble and expense of getting back into fixed blade knives!   :ahhh


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Reply #3474 on: April 25, 2017, 07:30:01 PM
This thread is DANGEROUS!  Last night, after looking at Robert's collection of Schrade hunting knives, I went into ebay and started looking at prices. Earlier it was Ka-Bars. Its bad enough I've gotten back into picking up non-SAK folders, particularly Cases, on a regular basis. I don't need the trouble and expense of getting back into fixed blade knives!   :ahhh

Sorry.....   :D
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Reply #3475 on: April 25, 2017, 08:38:37 PM
This thread is DANGEROUS!  Last night, after looking at Robert's collection of Schrade hunting knives, I went into ebay and started looking at prices. Earlier it was Ka-Bars. Its bad enough I've gotten back into picking up non-SAK folders, particularly Cases, on a regular basis. I don't need the trouble and expense of getting back into fixed blade knives!   :ahhh

Sorry.....   :D

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See the slip-joints thread.   :D


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Reply #3476 on: April 25, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
This thread is DANGEROUS!  Last night, after looking at Robert's collection of Schrade hunting knives, I went into ebay and started looking at prices. Earlier it was Ka-Bars. Its bad enough I've gotten back into picking up non-SAK folders, particularly Cases, on a regular basis. I don't need the trouble and expense of getting back into fixed blade knives!   :ahhh

Sorry.....   :D

 :twak:


See the slip-joints thread.   :D

 :rofl: :rofl:
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Reply #3477 on: April 25, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
(Image removed from quote.)





how did i miss these beauties?!

Thx Styx!!!  A lot of guys that collect and use these think they are the quintessential American deer knife....would probably make quick work of a big feral as well!!!!   :salute:

Considering that I've had a very heated discussion with my grandfather about which powertool was best for toenail maintenance, I'd wager these are a bit to nice for us ;)
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3478 on: April 25, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
Got my Schrade 165 based hunters together for a new pic... 

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The top three are Sears Craftsman Deerslayers (2 are hidden tang with one of those with the "Deerslayer" and "A.C.A Edge" etch) The "A.C.A." stood for "Amazing Cutting Action" which referred to a special edge finish which made the edge an even better cutter.

"The A.C.A edge was accomplished with a very coarse belt grind at a fairly low angle, followed by high speed buffing on a cloth wheel. The micro serrations caused by the belt coupled with the stropping action of the buff made for a very sharp blade...."
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sears-schrade-a-c-a-edge-was-it-actually-a-different-edge-or-just-hype.966123/#post-10999888

The middle knife is an early serialized Schrade Walden Uncle Henry 165UH. The bottom two are Schrade 165OT Woodsman with the bottom one a Schrade Walden (w/ serial).

Notice the older Waldens were stamped on the opposite side of the tang.
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how did i miss these beauties?!

Thx Styx!!!  A lot of guys that collect and use these think they are the quintessential American deer knife....would probably make quick work of a big feral as well!!!!   :salute:

Considering that I've had a very heated discussion with my grandfather about which powertool was best for toenail maintenance, I'd wager these are a bit to nice for us ;)

 :rofl: Ok!  :cheers:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #3479 on: April 25, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
Here's an old pic....


Let's play Marbles!!! :D
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