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My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
on: March 12, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
I signed onto MTO after a long absence, and saw jaya_man's Jalox Jr made by Simyo. I've seen it before and appreciated it, who wouldn't like such a masterpiece?
This time though, it bit me. Now I neeeeeed a 84mm SAK :D

Inline philips is a must, obviously. It's also the biggest issue to tackle with this mod.
I'd need the 85mm wenger version to go the Syph patented "2-in-1" opener layer route, which means getting ahold of a rare and expensive wenger SAK.... Must be damaged, I cannot bring myself to feck up one that is in good condition, that would be a crime, right?
So anyway, I have a lead on one from Germany, we'll see if it pans out. If not, and there's no others...
Additionally will need two 84mm backtool-less opener springs, so that means getting two recruits or something.
Actually, need to check if I can have the awl on one of them. :think:


Alternatively, since I DO like the magnifying glass rather much, another option is follow in Scibeer's footsteps: Scibeer's 84mm Madness! -SOSAK archives august 2007
It's a... lot of work. And requires skills greater than my own. But what's the worst that could happen? >:D But yeah, still...


There's also the scissors, lots of work needed, but it's well documented.
BUT! how to keep everyone's favorite tool, the hook? Will have to check on that.
Either way, will need 91mm scissors and two 91mm scissor springs as per How to build a modern Golfer (84mm cellidor) - Syph007  :think:

Then can't forget the actual base knife ( alox Cadet, celidor tourist or sportsman?)

TBC... In the donor and info finding stage, will take a while.
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #1 on: March 12, 2023, 02:42:08 PM
I bet it isnt easy to find damged wengers with inline phillips, i have one but i have no heart to tear it up since only real damge is on scales.
Also Wenger has that flat phillips screwdriver what is really slim if dont wanna go with thicker phillips. By looking those mods both ox them are actually brilliant idea, i wish i had skill to do that kind mods myself.


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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #2 on: March 12, 2023, 03:07:06 PM
Good luck in the mod, Pabs :salute: can't wait to see it come to fruition  :woohoo: :like:

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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #3 on: March 12, 2023, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: Antti Lammi on March 12, 2023, 02:42:08 PM
I bet it isnt easy to find damged wengers with inline phillips, i have one but i have no heart to tear it up since only real damge is on scales.
Also Wenger has that flat phillips screwdriver what is really slim if dont wanna go with thicker phillips. By looking those mods both ox them are actually brilliant idea, i wish i had skill to do that kind mods myself.


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I know right? It's impossible to tear up these lovely discontinued wengers unless they're smurfed. :facepalm:

This is the flat screwdriver you're talking about, right? Pretty cool! Didn't know about it. :cheers:
https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Screwdriver-Phillips-Flat

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Good luck in the mod, Pabs :salute: can't wait to see it come to fruition  :woohoo: :like:

It has been great to see you posting again as well :salute: :tu: :like: :like:
Thank you. :salute: Modding and the community, that's what keeps pulling me back. :D :salute:

Just leaving this here, ComboTool's 91mm Victorinox Ranger with dual inline Phillips . Food for thought. The 111mm inline phillips might be too long to fit in a 84mm SAK, but it seems well worth mentioning anyway because it is AWESOME. :o



Small addendum, https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=87675.0 suggests that the new 91mm scissors spring can be adapted to 84mm in much the same way as the old style pre-hook spring. Perhaps I'll have my lovely hook on this 84mm mod. :dd:
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #4 on: March 12, 2023, 03:31:13 PM
If you want a Phillips opposite a magnifying glass there may be a simpler solution to explore: use a recent (shorter) Phillips with an older (grey) magnifier. I haven't tested it yet but it looks like it should just fit in a 84mm mod. This way you don't have to redrill the Phillips (but of course you would have to sacrifice two Explorers).

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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #5 on: March 12, 2023, 03:48:49 PM
Thank you very much, I'll keep that in mind because I already have a grey magnifier, so I'd just need to buy one explorer. :)
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #6 on: March 12, 2023, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Don Pablo on March 12, 2023, 03:24:39 PM
I know right? It's impossible to tear up these lovely discontinued wengers unless they're smurfed. :facepalm:

This is the flat screwdriver you're talking about, right? Pretty cool! Didn't know about it. :cheers:
https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Screwdriver-Phillips-Flat
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Yea, those are actually pretty good to use. I have that flat phillips on atleast 1 of my wengers. I need to check when i get home


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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #7 on: March 12, 2023, 04:59:01 PM
Founded, it was on my Fly Fisherman
Its bit longer than inline phillips on my Cyclist.




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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #8 on: March 12, 2023, 05:00:30 PM
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Thank you for showing us, that is very cool indeed.
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #9 on: March 15, 2023, 08:03:54 PM
Just trying to sus out the plan of attack and lay out the options I can take for the phillips layer. :D
Decided to replicate the toolset of my 91mm favorite modded SAK, so I don't agonize as much over what tools to pick for this 84mm mod. :facepalm:

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Reply #10 on: March 16, 2023, 02:31:06 PM
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #11 on: March 16, 2023, 03:01:10 PM
Might go fully urban on this one, actually. :D
-Ditch the woodsaw, so just metal file with backside fine screwdriver.
-Mag glass, because that's very urban.

Simpler! Also gets rid of one required donor SAK, an 84mm with woodsaw, and one potentially required donor SAK, 111mm with long inline phillips.
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #12 on: March 17, 2023, 08:11:14 PM
Update:

Used Wenger Matterhorn is on the way.... I'll take off the in-line phillips layer, and swap in a fresh main blade from a two layer Wenger.
With that done, I'll have one option for in-line phillips for the mod, and a renewed Matterhorn without an in-line phillips layer to pass on or carry.  :cheers:

Additionally bought a very fresh Ranger...
Will take off the stainless steel file and rebuild it as a huntsman-with-a-chisel to give to my sister who wants a SAK with saw. :tu:

Still need to sort out scissors donor and the 84mm SAKs I need for parts and to build upon. :think:
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #13 on: March 17, 2023, 08:25:42 PM
 :like: This is going to be great Don Pablo! When its done you should take a group photo with all the donor/sub mods that are used and created.
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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #14 on: March 26, 2023, 05:59:58 PM
Hang on, what carbide drill bits does everyone prefer? :think: I need to pick some. :ahhh
Hopefully at worst I can use my own bit and gain access to a workshop late next month.
I heard something about step bits being nice?

Alternatively I could get a diamond bit for dremel? ???


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Reply #15 on: March 27, 2023, 01:54:11 AM
Diamond bits work good with a Dremel but be careful not to burn your Dremel up :ahhh

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Re: My WIP attempt at a thick(er) 84mm mod
Reply #16 on: March 27, 2023, 02:17:00 AM
:cheers:
Hopefully I'll find out what kind of reasonably priced carbide bits I can use with a drill press, but if it comes to it I'll keep the diamond bits in mind.
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Reply #17 on: May 15, 2023, 05:02:10 PM
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Reply #18 on: May 17, 2023, 11:48:27 AM
This took a backseat due to the amount of time it's taking to get all the parts + exams. :oops:
New ETA to be ready; July? ::)
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Reply #19 on: May 18, 2023, 12:12:28 AM
Always best to have some kind of schedule (even of it is a longer one ;) ) to keep one honest and hopefully it will keep pushing you to finish  :salute: :like:

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Merit Badges Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must update or add a page on the Multitool.org Multitool Encyclopedia Carry an orange item and post a picture of it everyday for 30 days. Start a thread with a photo of at least ten OPT's in your collection Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Leatherman Pulse or ST200 and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the Leatherman MiniTool for thirty (30) consecutive days. In this challenge,  carry one(1) Pliers-based or Non-pliers multitool that we always have prejudice against, hate or even fear and post a picture everyday for 30 days Using EDC items randomly selected with a poker hand, post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for 4 weeks (or 30 consecutive days) In the spirit of the Batman utility belt. A 30 day challenge were you have to have at least 2 things clipped to your belt (preferably more). Start a thread and post a picture of your clipped gear each day for 30 days. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Leatherman Skeletool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. You have one of your pictures in the 2020 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the LM Crunch  Multitool for fifteen (15) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the keychain for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. You have one of your pictures in the 2019 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. You have one of your pictures in the 2017 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. You have one of your pictures in the 2018 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days.

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