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Biggest multitool pet peeves? 525

Hero Member Posts: 552
Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« on: October 10, 2019, 03:57:16 PM »
What are your biggest multitool pet peeves?

For me, it has to be when the blade edge smacks against the floor of a handle because of poor design or QC.  It enrages me.  It is one thing on cheapos.  But most SOGs (like the powerlock) and Gerbers (like the MP600) have this issue.  These are not cheap tools!  To their credit, I have never seen a Victorinox or Leatherman with careless enough design to let the edge get flattened on a handle.  It really pisses me off, since it is so easy to fix.   :facepalm:

What are yours?

Just Bananas Posts: 61,794
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2019, 04:33:22 PM »
Any tools or the pliers rubbing
on the handles peeves me off  ???

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Sr. Member Posts: 307
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2019, 04:43:30 PM »
Having to pick just ONE to carry.  :whistle:
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,185
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 04:49:46 PM »
 :iagree:

Lets face it, we love tools and having to be "realistic" in what to carry is lame.  Yesterday I didn't have that "problem".

I guess for me its QC.  I've been lucky I guess.  Reading thru threads of members who get lemons irritate me. 

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Hero Member Posts: 552
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 05:49:39 PM »
Any tools or the pliers rubbing
on the handles peeves me off  ???

I don't mind this, it's hard to get everything in a compact space.  I don't mind if the side of the blade rubs against a handle and gets scuffed.  I just can't stand the edge of the blade striking the floor of the handle channel.  That impacts usability.

No Life Club Posts: 1,158
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 02:52:19 AM »
All of the above, plus

- When tools rub on other tools.  In particular, when an otherwise good quality (and not cheap) knife only has 2-3 blades, and the blades rub on one another.

- When the handles are uncomfortable.  Sometimes I wonder if they actually bothered to “beta test” or even build and test a working prototype before putting the tool into production.

- How some cheap tools are labeled “for emergency use only”.  So, the tool is too poorly made to stand up to the rigors of everyday use, but I’m supposed to trust it in an emergency?  Are you smurfing kidding me?!?!
No Life Club Posts: 4,793
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 11:28:39 AM »
When the blade hits the handle during closing is also one of my pet peeves.

And when the tip of needle nose pliers don't line up is also high on my list (I mean when the tool is brand-new, on a well used tool this is just part of normal wear).

And I agree with Aloha's statement about QC issues.
Hero Member Posts: 594
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 02:44:03 AM »
Any tools or the pliers rubbing
on the handles peeves me off  ???

This. I just had a tool wear the black oxide off the plier head after only opening it a few times.
Full Member Posts: 104
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2019, 06:34:11 AM »
to me the biggest thing is the lack of quality holsters.
I carry a Surge every day for work on my belt and none of the manufacturers make a worthy sheath that can last more than a few months of use with the heaviest tools. i have to modify my own.
the 2nd thing would be when it bites me!
surge and supertool owners among others will know that palm pinch when you close it that i refer to..
i'm experienced with them and it doesn't catch me often, but the other day my surge reminded me again who's boss.  :twak:
the 3rd thing i would like to see is more superficial artist design in MT's. engraved brass handles maybe? inlays? rare metals?
No Life Club Posts: 1,579
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2019, 08:21:51 AM »
Probably my two biggest pet peeves are
- due to lack of nail nicks or tool rub, you have to open several tools just to be able to open the tool you want
- due to size, design or location within tool; a tool is not really able to be properly used.  If it isn’t going to do what it should, then why bother to include? Is it just there to make the number of tools higher, so it looks more useful than it really is?
Thread Killer 2017 Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,850 Born to multitask.
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2019, 10:37:22 AM »
Putting the can opener too far to the right of the handle, so it can't hook on the tin and actually open it.
Making blades shorter than the handle allows.
Making washers the thickness of implements, wasting space.
Too much handle splay.
Not being able to order most stuff to Australia, or trying to, only to see the shipping go through the roof.
Not having a reamer in every multi-tool.
Having a thousand flatheads on a tool.
Sr. Member Posts: 313
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2019, 02:01:18 PM »
Putting the can opener too far to the right of the handle, so it can't hook on the tin and actually open it.
Making blades shorter than the handle allows.
Making washers the thickness of implements, wasting space.
Too much handle splay.
Not being able to order most stuff to Australia, or trying to, only to see the shipping go through the roof.
Not having a reamer in every multi-tool.
Having a thousand flatheads on a tool.
I totally agree.
Lack of proper nail nicks also bother me.
Shipping to my country is a pain...

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No Life Club Posts: 4,675
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2019, 04:10:46 PM »
--Difficult to pull out tools, regardless it was dues to poor design/rub/QC/whatever

--Loose tool, especially knife, it really does suck if you pocket carry it (But it could be a user's fault)

--Poor, uneven grind on blade.  It's just wrong when a 15 dollars Mora always get it right, but a MT which worth multiple times more can't even have an even grind.
No Life Club Posts: 1,489 4x4 since '74
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2019, 04:33:04 PM »
I don't like multitools which are big and heavy, yet have undersized implements (screwdrivers, knife, etc.).  Examples include Leatherman OHT and Gerber M800.

Another problem -- multitools which are poorly finished, e.g., Super Bear Jaws, Leatherman Wave.  Super Bear Jaws had poor grinding, making the individual tools ultra difficult to open.  My Wave has sharp edges everywhere which chafe the hand when holding it.  Internal tools pinch the palm when using the pliers.

Don't need corkscrews, can openers, bottle openers, USB ports, built in flashlight, ear wax spoons, etc.

One of my favorite multitools is the old Crescent Toolzall Pro, made by Bear and Sons.

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Full Member Posts: 104
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2019, 05:03:21 AM »
ear wax spoon does sound intriguing...
at least that's what we'll say it's used for  :whistle:
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,185
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2019, 04:34:37 PM »
1. lack of quality holsters.
2. when it bites me!

Walley you made some great points  :tu:.   The palm pinch is something users rarely talk about with LMs.  Its a thing for sure and can be negated by reversing the pivot on the outside tools.  Someone mentioned this already on the forum but I forget who.

We know LM can make really good sheath as some of their older leather ones are terrific.   

 

Esse Quam Videri
Sr. Member Posts: 307
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2019, 06:52:47 PM »
I know people have had bad experiences with the sheaths but I have one that came with my Surge and its taken some abuse. With my love handles and tight belt, it still looks brand new. So they arent all bad.

However the leather sheath that came with my ST300 I cant get my belt through it...
Full Member Posts: 234
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2019, 04:20:13 AM »
Putting the can opener too far to the right of the handle, so it can't hook on the tin and actually open it.
Making blades shorter than the handle allows.
Making washers the thickness of implements, wasting space.
Too much handle splay.
Not being able to order most stuff to Australia, or trying to, only to see the shipping go through the roof.
Not having a reamer in every multi-tool.
Having a thousand flatheads on a tool.

I 100% agree with the first few.  The can opener one is really bad.  I don't mind having multiple slotted drivers unless I feel like the tool is missing something that could have been in one of those spots, THEN it really bothers me.

I would also add:

Anytime a tool comes with a useless file!  All files should have the notches (teeth?) on the edge, not just the sides.  Also many files are made from a cheap stainless steel and are not hard enough to actually function. (see picture)

No Life Club Posts: 2,842
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2019, 05:31:49 AM »
Overcomplex locking mechanism for me.

I knew my wife was a keeper when she transitioned from calling it a knife thingy to a multi-tool.

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Sr. Member Posts: 311
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2019, 08:43:57 AM »
What are your biggest multitool pet peeves?

For me, it has to be when the blade edge smacks against the floor of a handle because of poor design or QC.  It enrages me.  It is one thing on cheapos.  But most SOGs (like the powerlock) and Gerbers (like the MP600) have this issue.  These are not cheap tools!  To their credit, I have never seen a Victorinox or Leatherman with careless enough design to let the edge get flattened on a handle.  It really pisses me off, since it is so easy to fix.   :facepalm:

What are yours?

I got a PSTII that does exactly this. Blade rubbs on handle and dulls. Tried to improve that by taping the handle inside with little success.
Kicks my OCD whenever I carry this tool.
No Life Club Posts: 3,228
Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #20 on: Today at 04:29:26 AM »
Phillips Screwdrivers which slip, slip, slip. Can Openers that can't open a can. Bottle openers that can't open a bottle. Saws that might as well be fish scalers.

American companies that have excellent designs that would compete well with more well known offerings; but suffer from poor quality materials and/or bad workmanship; and a lack of interest in competing with more well known companies. The Bear and Sons Bear Jaws served as the basis for the SwissTool; but even on older examples, it's a notch below Leatherman. On newer ones, the quality control is so bad, it's a safety hazard (got cut bad due to a Bear Jaws lock that failed under light pressure). If Bear and Sons could match Leatherman in quality and have a slight design tweak to either change the lock or go back to non-locking tools, they would have one of the best offerings available.    Kutmaster's Multimaster is pretty much the oldest multitool design to continue without major design changes. It's a rugged and quite tough design, but its quality control is rough, and their steel soft.  I dinged my pliers on rebar binding wire; something most Leathermans (including Squirts) handle without issue.  If they used a quality steel, and better workmanship, it would be my favorite. A 1/4 driver, a plier handle so solid, it's useful as a hammer, and the toughest pliers on the market--heck yeah! But by them going total cheap POS with it, it sucks.  I support American-made; but it's a shame that two quite brilliant designs suffer from manufacturers who don't seem to care about their products.   If they made a version of my favorite variant of Multimaster (tanto blade, blunt nose pliers, strap cutter in place of can opener) to the quality and workmanship of say a Leatherman Wave, I'd EDC that exclusively and never look back.  Yet, my example can't cut wire, blades are as dull as a butter knife, and the bit driver is cut weird. Oh, and the magnet falls out every time I look at it.
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Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #21 on: Today at 04:44:05 AM »
For me it's hard to open tools. I have a juice that I love; but I carry less and less because the flatheads break my nails when I try to open them! It frustrates me to no end.

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Re: Biggest multitool pet peeves?
« Reply #22 on: Today at 05:37:18 PM »
 :iagree:

 

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