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WhichDawg · **Reply #330 on:** March 21, 2008, 06:21:20 AM

wow sweet machines! I wished my ride look half as good as them!!
thanks for sharing bro

now we want stories, histories, the hard one, the easy one to restore!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #331 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:51:15 AM

I didn't realise they were so small

, they look like handy machines all the same though

Benner · **Reply #332 on:** March 21, 2008, 11:07:57 AM

Thanks for the pics.

ducktapehero · **Reply #333 on:** March 21, 2008, 03:33:40 PM

Looks good. My Dad had an old Wheel Horse lawn tractor. IIRC it kinda looked like the one in your 3rd picture. Those things were tough. Anyway welcome aboard.

Hoghead · **Reply #334 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:18:24 PM

Hello All,

I really like your forum!!! I joined about 8 months ago. I used to drop in now and then untill I saw Defs video with the green handled Charge. I followed it back here to see who made it and I've been here a lot more since then.

I'm the same Hoghead as on CPF & EDC. I'm an engineer on the railroad. Not the kind of engineer that knows stuff, I'm just the guy that runs the engine (AKA: drives the train).

I like guns, knives, lights & multi-tools. I'm not allowed to take guns to work, but the rest of the tools get used on and around the engines for everything from changing light bulbs, headlights, ditchlights to opening cabnets that are bolted shut, changing out air hose gaskets and cutting wire, etc.

I think my first multi-tool was a Gerber. I'm not sure what model it is, but it's still in my grip. I liked it when it was all that I had. It is still serviceable, but it's a little worse for wear especially where I used the file with the flint on a magnesium firestarter, it works great for that by the way. I bought a few more Gerbers, but I didn't like them and never found one that had the same tools as my old one so I gave them away. I'll have to get some of the new models and give Gerber another chance.

At some point early on I got a Leatherman Pulse and that was my favorite until I got a Wave. Then things progressed pretty rapidly from that point.

My favorite multi-tools are the Leatherman Charge Ti in BO, BO Wave and BO Spirit S. I EDC the Charge and a Micra.

I can't take any pictures because I don't have a digital camera because I spend my money on tools, lights, knives etc. My wife wants to get a camera to take pictures of the quilts she makes, so maybe in the future. Here's a list of some of my multi-tools.
Swiss Tool standard
Swiss Tool standard BO
Spirit S BO
Surge
Surge BO
Core
Core BO
Charge Ti
Charge Ti BO
Wave
Wave BO
Blast BO
Fuse BO
Kick
Kick BO
Crunch
Supertool BO
Pulse
Sideclip
Skeletool
XE6

There might be more, but these are the ones that come to mind. I bought 2 Spirits when they first came out. My wife took one for her EDC right away. She lost it out of her purse and reciently took the other one. I guess I'll have to get some more. I can just add it to the list of tools I want.

Thanks for such a friendly forum.

Benner · **Reply #335 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:21:14 PM

That looks like a great list there mate.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #336 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:22:04 PM

Welcome to the forum mate, (although I've already said that

) you'll fit in just fine with that tool line up mate

So what sort of engine do you drive mate, diesel or electric

Hoghead · **Reply #337 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:50:50 PM

Quote from: micky d on March 27, 2008, 10:22:04 PM

So what sort of engine do you drive mate, diesel or electric

That's almost a trick question. They are diesel electric locomotives. A diesel engine powers an electric generator that powers the traction motors. The traction motors have a winding like a fan except they are about the size of a VW bug with the roof cut off. Each set of trucks (set of axels) has a traction motor, each engine has two traction motors.

The short answer is diesel.

Sorry, I don't know what gets into me sometimes.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #338 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:52:29 PM

I studied engineering for three years in college until I found out it had nothing to do with trains....

That's an impressive list you have going there- watch yourself as this place causes them to multiply!

Def

WhichDawg · **Reply #339 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:53:29 PM

nice to meet you hoghead (any busse's with that name?)

I'm voting for the conga line/train engineer!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #340 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:56:38 PM

Quote from: Hoghead on March 27, 2008, 10:50:50 PM

Quote from: micky d on March 27, 2008, 10:22:04 PM
So what sort of engine do you drive mate, diesel or electric

That's almost a trick question. They are diesel electric locomotives. A diesel engine powers an electric generator that powers the traction motors. The traction motors have a winding like a fan except they are about the size of a VW bug with the roof cut off. Each set of trucks (set of axels) has a traction motor, each engine has two traction motors.

The short answer is diesel. Sorry, I don't know what gets into me sometimes.

Sorry, I should have pointed out that I quite like my Loco's

, I know most of the US is still predominatly Diesel, I just wondered what sort you were driving mate

Hoghead · **Reply #341 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:56:59 PM

Quote from: Defender on March 27, 2008, 10:52:29 PM

I studied engineering for three years in college until I found out it had nothing to do with trains....

That's an impressive list you have going there- watch yourself as this place causes them to multiply!

Def

I'd like it if they would multiply especially if it could be done without having to pay for them. I suppose the doctor would charge more for the delivery fees than it would cost just to buy them.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #342 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:06:33 PM

I love trains too- the last train trip I took, the engine broke down in the middle of nowhere and they couldn't troubleshoot it on the spot, so another engine had to come out, hook up and pull us to the next station, where we got yet another engine to finish the trip. A six hour ride ended up taking almost 14 all told, and I was about the only one who was happy as a clam!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #343 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:10:02 PM

There definaltly is something very relaxing about train journeys, plus obviously knowing that there's all that power pulling you effortlessly is very cool too

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #344 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:12:08 PM

I like watching the scenery....

And the power is pretty sweet too!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #345 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:15:09 PM

Quote from: Defender on March 27, 2008, 11:12:08 PM

I like watching the scenery....

And the power is pretty sweet too!

Def

Apart from cycling it's the only way I get around these day's, although the prices are a little scary, it cost me £9 to do about a 40 miles journey last week, still cheaper than going by car, but hardly cheap either $:-\$

Hoghead · **Reply #346 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:32:41 PM

micky d

Sorry if I came across as rude. I just have a warped sence of humor.

The short answer is all of them. The long answer is:

I've run all but 2 types of diesel engines that have been used in the US. There were 2 models of the really old/early engines that I've never seen. One of them was a switch engine and I don't remember what the other one was. I wouldn't know that except I saw a program on the History channel about it and that's when I realized that I had run all but 2.

I've been on the railroad since 1977. As a matter of fact I've probably run almost every engine that the Chicago & NorthWestern and the Uninion Pacific own. We don't have engines assigned to us. The engines/trains are run through terminals with only a crew change. For the past two years I've been on a job that hostles engines (moves them around & switch out the ones we want) and air tests trains to get them ready for the road crews. Before that I mostly worked over the road.

When I started we were using GP7, GP9 and SD18 that had 1200 to 1500 horsepower up to the SD40-2 & SD45. The new engines have 4000 plus, SD70MAC etc. I'd have to look in my books to see all of the model numbers. The lowest horsepower engines that they use on road trains now are the EMD 40-2 at 3000 horsepower. The 40-2 has been the most popular engine with engineers since I've been on the railroad, but they are getting a little long in the tooth now.

I hope that made up for my smart a$$ attempt at humor.

Hoghead · **Reply #347 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:44:57 PM

WhichDawg,

Sorry, no Busse's. Oh so sorry. Some day maybe. It looks like my money is already spent for the next few months. I'm buying knives/tools for my grandsons.

One or maybe two are going to get this Benchmade Bali-Song Morpho
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=BM32BK

Another wants this Woodman's Pal
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=wp482

Then there are multi-tools to get.

WhichDawg · **Reply #348 on:** March 28, 2008, 03:52:47 AM

we'll get you one HH! I'm originally from Chicago (moved out west last year young man) and my father worked on a the railroad for a time,

I wouldn't know any details only guesses but I remember going to LaGrange to the big train repair/building place, I remember thinking how
cool it was!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #349 on:** March 28, 2008, 08:52:05 AM

Quote from: Hoghead on March 27, 2008, 11:32:41 PM

micky d

Sorry if I came across as rude. I just have a warped sence of humor.

The short answer is all of them. The long answer is:

I've run all but 2 types of diesel engines that have been used in the US. There were 2 models of the really old/early engines that I've never seen. One of them was a switch engine and I don't remember what the other one was. I wouldn't know that except I saw a program on the History channel about it and that's when I realized that I had run all but 2.

I've been on the railroad since 1977. As a matter of fact I've probably run almost every engine that the Chicago & NorthWestern and the Uninion Pacific own. We don't have engines assigned to us. The engines/trains are run through terminals with only a crew change. For the past two years I've been on a job that hostles engines (moves them around & switch out the ones we want) and air tests trains to get them ready for the road crews. Before that I mostly worked over the road.

When I started we were using GP7, GP9 and SD18 that had 1200 to 1500 horsepower up to the SD40-2 & SD45. The new engines have 4000 plus, SD70MAC etc. I'd have to look in my books to see all of the model numbers. The lowest horsepower engines that they use on road trains now are the EMD 40-2 at 3000 horsepower. The 40-2 has been the most popular engine with engineers since I've been on the railroad, but they are getting a little long in the tooth now.

I hope that made up for my smart a$$ attempt at humor.

No worries mate, no offence was taken (I've been married, so I'm pretty thick skinned

), I can just never get over the shere length of the trains that you guy's get in the US and Canada, ours are less that a quater the size off yours

Towser · **Reply #350 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:55:17 PM

Greetings fellow Multitoolers! Just signed up - I'm from South Wales, UK, and am tempted by either Cybertool or Swisstool Spirit to replace the wife, as her teeth have become a bit blunt now, and she struggles to open tins, cut wire or unscrew posi-drive screws. I have a 9 month old daughter, which means my wife has lost her ability to open bottles too.

I have tried many a "piece of tat" toolage to get me by, but I need guidance before I lose all my digits and/or a limb or two...!

Cheers all

WhichDawg · **Reply #351 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:22:58 AM

Welcome to the forum Towser!

both tools would be excellent, but the pliers on the Spirit may give you (her) a little more bite!
more tools in the Cybertool, more strength in the Spirit, what may I ask would be your prime uses?

Leatherman123 · **Reply #352 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:45:53 AM

Welcome to the forum Towser! You are going to love it here!

Towser · **Reply #353 on:** April 17, 2008, 03:02:58 AM

Thanks for the welcome guys - I have a feelling this forum might cost me a bit when I see all the shiney stuff!

As for my needs - I'm a machine operator in a printing firm, so a good multitool will be needed, but not too big as I would carry it around most of the time even when not in work, as I like to tinker! I'd pretty much use all the tools of the spirit, but also the small drivers of a Cybertool (for the 2,000 battery changes for my daughters toys etc). Don't know whether to get Cybertool and Spirit, or the Spirit with the ratchet tool so I can use my own 6mm bits. But then again the pen and tweezers of a Cybertool would be handy too!

Now I can see why some of you guys have several of these things! I have found the Spirit for £38 and Cybertool 34 for £26 so not too bad for both.

Of course Mrs Towser will be told they are from the pound shop...

J-sews · **Reply #354 on:** April 17, 2008, 03:11:52 AM

We've got a rule around here Towser, and you may as well not try to fight it:

When In Doubt, Buy Both!

Heh-heh, welcome by the way!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #355 on:** April 17, 2008, 09:11:55 AM

Welcome to the forum mate, great to have another bloke from the UK here

As for what tool, we'll instead of investing in new dentures for the missus

, I'd go for the Spirit, the cybertool is an awesome Sak, but the Spirit probably has just a bit more utility and is definatly the stronger of the two

WhichDawg · **Reply #356 on:** April 17, 2008, 10:26:53 AM

explain utility boss, the regular Spirit has around 23 uses/tools (if you count the lanyard ring)

but even the Cybertool 29 has more uses!? I would think the Cybertool has more utility

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #357 on:** April 17, 2008, 01:04:39 PM

Quote from: WhichDawg on April 17, 2008, 10:26:53 AM

explain utility boss, the regular Spirit has around 23 uses/tools (if you count the lanyard ring)

but even the Cybertool 29 has more uses!? I would think the Cybertool has more utility

True, but to my mind the spirit has a better and more useful selection of tools

WhichDawg · **Reply #358 on:** April 17, 2008, 02:19:03 PM

lol, I sit down corrected sir!

Towser · **Reply #359 on:** April 17, 2008, 07:32:42 PM

Thanks for your input guys - much apprieciated! But I think J-Sews hit the nail on the head with "When In Doubt, Buy Both! " (Any SAK with a hammer by the way?

). I guess a Spirit with a Cybertool 34 would be the most practical array of toolage - carry both in work and just the CT34 round the house.

Thanks Guys - you put my mind at rest.

And cost me £70...........

(But the cost of tinkering and destruction is priceless right?)

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