New Leatherman Tools (Hawkchucker tried scoopin' the boss)!

[EZ822]

I will add that I am extremely worried about the size/shape of that file though and am sad to hear that the Kick is due to be retired.

What really concerns me is if these tools replace the Kick and they lock then what choice does the UK buyer have for a medium size tool with non locking blades .

You would think that Leatherman would be aware of the UK and Australian knife laws and offer more non locking options. Didn't Spyderco do that with a couple of their models? Maybe LM could also offer another blade less model.

[darkhawk]

well done
looking at these new ones I wonder it they will be the replacement for the blast, fuse, kick design?

[mtool78]

I photoshopped what it might look like closed:

Job well done! 

[Dunc]

I will add that I am extremely worried about the size/shape of that file though and am sad to hear that the Kick is due to be retired.

What really concerns me is if these tools replace the Kick and they lock then what choice does the UK buyer have for a medium size tool with non locking blades .

You would think that Leatherman would be aware of the UK knife laws and offer more non locking options. Didn't Spyderco do that with a couple of their models?

Yes Spyderco did  I suppose the trouble is the UK only represents a very small % of their sales so its not worth them doing it.

[cerbera147]

This is soooo old news 
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,25334.msg457862.html#msg457862

TBH when I first saw the pics I thought of Gerber, what with the short stubby tools an' all 

When I read they are aimed at the entry level end of the market it made a bit more sense. Surely they could have given something for users like us The MUT didn't really count as it aimed at the firearm user.

I don't if these were the best pictures to release into the world. They certainly don't show off the tools features  Perhaps a video showing the various tools in action. Pics with others in the range. Anything but these pics 

I really like Leatherman's stuff and I hope this doesn't tarnish their reputation 

Yes Spyderco did  I suppose the trouble is the UK only represents a very small % of their sales so its not worth them doing it.

I think the huge markup has something to do with that  If they were priced more appropriately with more non locking tools they could do very well 

I believe Spyderco consulted British Blades when designing the UKPK; perhaps Leatherman could enrol the help of Def and his great forum i.e. us 

[Woz]

The  price is nice, if they have pocketclips I´ll get both of them!

[Dunc]

Yes Spyderco did  I suppose the trouble is the UK only represents a very small % of their sales so its not worth them doing it.

I think the huge markup has something to do with that  If they were priced more appropriately with more non locking tools they could do very well 

I believe Spyderco consulted British Blades when designing the UKPK; perhaps Leatherman could enrol the help of Def and his great forum i.e. us 

Yes Spyderco boss Sal Glasser worked very closely with the members of British Blades , I remember how much work went into it . A multitool.org designed tool would be so cool and a big seller I'm sure .

[Ombudsman]

I photoshopped what it might look like closed:

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OMG !! Is a Leatherman Crucial !! 

[darkhawk]

 
I was thinking the same thing

[darkhawk]

Yes Spyderco did  I suppose the trouble is the UK only represents a very small % of their sales so its not worth them doing it.

I think the huge markup has something to do with that  If they were priced more appropriately with more non locking tools they could do very well 

I believe Spyderco consulted British Blades when designing the UKPK; perhaps Leatherman could enrol the help of Def and his great forum i.e. us 

Yes Spyderco boss Sal Glasser worked very closely with the members of British Blades , I remember how much work went into it . A multitool.org designed tool would be so cool and a big seller I'm sure .

YES you are right it would be a big seller, good idea

[Ombudsman]

Maybe we should call it...

[AHB]

Maybe we should call it...
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An unholy alliance..   



 

[umberto00]

How about "Leathererber" ... just rolls off the tongue

[darkhawk]

 
well done, wont leatherman love that the first post about the new launch went down this road
 

[cerbera147]

Maybe we should call it...
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I heard Leatherman were sponsoring Bear Grylls now 

Now you're Ready Gerber   

[umberto00]

I won't pass judgement until I see it in real life, but having a combo blade and serrated one seems like overkill. Would rather have an awl in place of that small serrated blade.  I really want to see it next to a Juice or Wave so I can get a sense of its size!

[AHB]

I heard Leatherman were sponsoring Bear Grylls now 

Now you're Ready Gerber   

"Leave nothing Un-Gerberized"... 

[AimlessWanderer]

A bit harsh, but not entirely unfair.

Apologies if my comments were unpallatable, but I chose my words carefully (including the apology) and don't consider them unfair at all. I've had bad experience on both buys from them, and heard lots people having similar grumbles. I've even heard long time fans - even collectors - leaving them due to quality issues. The biggest fans seem (to me) to be longer term users whose hearts were won by older models. But even some of those are now walking away.

I've got an MT300 and a Charge TTi. I can't speak too much for the Charge because i've only got it recently (but it is fantastic quality) but the MT300 is a beast.

Really glad to hear you're happy with them. I have neither of these so can't comment on their build/consistency etc, but to be fair would not be prepared to take the gamble until I hear reports of significant improvements from LM.

I know I can come across as a LM hater, but will continue to express my views - and often (Sorry guys). The reason for this is I WANT to like LM, I WANT to trust them, and I WANT to be as enamoured by them as so many others are. I want LM to genuinely be as good as so many believe them to be. Right now I am very perturbed with the poor quality of goods I have received from them - especially considering the outlay made for them under the guise of being the highest quality tools. The only way that improvements will be made though (I am NOT an isolated case)  is if others who are dissatisfied, repeatedly make their displeasure known loud and proud and often. Only then will LM listen and act to rectify their failures.

The fans "forgiving" any niggles, glitches or defects due to loyalty or whatever doesn't do themselves, other users or indeed LM any good. If LM thinks everything is fine and everyone is happy, they'll continue to be sloppy - and it'll get worse. If LM thinks there's a geninue problem (which in my mind there is) they'll do something about it.

We need to be honest with our findings and experiences with all makers, and not forgive their indiscretions otherwise true tool enthusiasts like us will suffer as a result. Unfortunately that means saying things that loyal fans don't like.

my £0.02

[Mr. Whippy]

A bit harsh, but not entirely unfair.

Apologies if my comments were unpallatable, but I chose my words carefully (including the apology) and don't consider them unfair at all. I've had bad experience on both buys from them, and heard lots people having similar grumbles. I've even heard long time fans - even collectors - leaving them due to quality issues. The biggest fans seem (to me) to be longer term users whose hearts were won by older models. But even some of those are now walking away.

I've got an MT300 and a Charge TTi. I can't speak too much for the Charge because i've only got it recently (but it is fantastic quality) but the MT300 is a beast.

Really glad to hear you're happy with them. I have neither of these so can't comment on their build/consistency etc, but to be fair would not be prepared to take the gamble until I hear reports of significant improvements from LM.

I know I can come across as a LM hater, but will continue to express my views - and often (Sorry guys). The reason for this is I WANT to like LM, I WANT to trust them, and I WANT to be as enamoured by them as so many others are. Right now I am very perturbed with the poor quality of goods I have received from them - especially considering the outlay made for them under the guise of being the highest quality tools. The only way that improvements will be made though (I am NOT an isolated case)  is if others who are dissatisfied, repeatedly make their displeasure known loud and proud and often. Only then will LM listen and act to rectify their failures.

The fans "forgiving" any niggles, glitches or defects due to loyalty or whatever doesn't do themselves, other users or indeed LM any good. If LM thinks everything is fine and everyone is happy, they'll continue to be sloppy - and it'll get worse. If LM thinks there's a geninue problem (which in my mind there is) they'll do something about it.

We need to be honest with our findings and experiences with all makers, and not forgive their indiscretions otherwise true tool enthusiasts like us will suffer as a result. Unfortunately that means saying things that loyal fans don't like.

my £0.02

Hey no worries.  I totally get what you're saying and agree.  Every manufacturer should have the feet held to the fire over known issues.

I don't remember what the other LM you bought was, but my CS4 is a good light duty tool, not really up to the kind of work I do with my Charge.

I'm a big fan of my Skeletool and Wave too.  The squirts are good for keychain tools.  I don't think they're going down hill, but I am tentative about these two new tools (and the LM Style too).

[BIG-TARGET]

Wingman

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Sidekick
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a refined turbocharged Skeletool

[hawkchucker]

The  price is nice, if they have pocketclips I´ll get both of them!

But not if they have the kind on the skellie. Those are horrible.

[AHB]

Anyone seen Pandora..? I think she left her box open..

[AimlessWanderer]

Hey no worries.  I totally get what you're saying and agree.  Every manufacturer should have the feet held to the fire over known issues.

I don't remember what the other LM you bought was, but my CS4 is a good light duty tool, not really up to the kind of work I do with my Charge.

I'm a big fan of my Skeletool and Wave too.  The squirts are good for keychain tools.  I don't think they're going down hill, but I am tentative about these two new tools (and the LM Style too).

The other tool was just a Squirt P4. Can't bring myself to gamble on any bigger purchases (bigger tools) now though - and as I said it's based on feedback from others on larger tools too. I don't expect these small tools to do anything beyond their design brief ... just to work, and be well made 

I'm happy for those who got good gear, and hope it brings them many years of pleasure. It's just such an expensive lottery to play at the moment, I'll be sticking to the safe bets 

Thanks for not taking it the wrong way 

[EvilOlivE]

So they're not the super high end tool that I'm sure most of us would have liked to see, but think of the bright side.  They're cheap and have torx pivots   I'll bet some of the tools could be modded to fit on other LM's.  I'm thinking those scissors would fit in the extra bit holder part of a skeletool with a little work

[Threeme2189]

The stubby serrated blade, file and "package opener" (aka useless piece of sharpened steel) look kind of short and uncomfortable...
But I will wait for the real pics before ranting and bashing.
They may come out quite good.

[stack]

I think I would like to know more about these tools. I think Leatherman makes some of the finest tools out there, old and new models. The Charge, skeli, supertool 300, mut, new wave to name a few. They have  been reliable to me and you cant beat their return, replacment policy. These new tools to me, do look like a more compact version of its wave and with the charge around, maybe they will retire the wave? And the wave is their most popular model. It does have the one hand opening main blade I do like but I do agree I dont care for the file. I think that for those who dont want to spring for the more expensive tools, these may be a good option. I dont think everyone is going to like all of leathermans tools but I also dont think that just there old tools are good. If these tools are skeli sized, I would consider getting one for light carry as I think they may be popular with folks who want a more compact, usefull tool at a budget price. Again I would like to know more.

[nuphoria]

Oh, I so wanted to be impressed..... ho hum.... 

Looking forward to some hands on info though - might be surprised yet!

[genevabuck]

I kind of expected these types of tools from Leatherman.  Let's faceit.  The last few tools were keychain and military/type.  They are most likely now looking to tackle the recession with affordable, high selling, usable for the everyday user, servicable Juice replacememnts.  Look for them to push these hard.

[J-sews]

Anvil wire cutters on a Leatherman...?

[hawkchucker]

Were you able to get pics of the clip side? Sorry if ya posted them already I am doing this on the crackberry! Ahem I had pics first;cough;