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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #30 on: October 19, 2007, 02:01:41 PM
They were really advanced in the field of amputations too, and it wasnt till the first world war that modern medicine caught up :)
                      Not surprising really. Know what Roman doctors called gladiatorial games? Anatomy class. :D Galen,probably the best of the ancient doctors,after Hippocrates, honed his skills treating gladiators.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #31 on: October 19, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
They were really advanced in the field of amputations too, and it wasnt till the first world war that modern medicine caught up :)
                      Not surprising really. Know what Roman doctors called gladiatorial games? Anatomy class. :D Galen,probably the best of the ancient doctors,after Hippocrates, honed his skills treating gladiators.

Doctors and Surgeons for the U.S. Armed forces hone their skills in trauma centers of big city hospitals.  Such hospitals have the most gunshots and stab wounds and therefore it is the best place to train for the real thing.


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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #32 on: October 19, 2007, 09:09:11 PM
They were really advanced in the field of amputations too, and it wasnt till the first world war that modern medicine caught up :)
                      Not surprising really. Know what Roman doctors called gladiatorial games? Anatomy class. :D Galen,probably the best of the ancient doctors,after Hippocrates, honed his skills treating gladiators.
wow I didn't know that mate :) it stands to reason when you think about it I supose :)
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #33 on: October 19, 2007, 09:10:51 PM
They were really advanced in the field of amputations too, and it wasnt till the first world war that modern medicine caught up :)
                      Not surprising really. Know what Roman doctors called gladiatorial games? Anatomy class. :D Galen,probably the best of the ancient doctors,after Hippocrates, honed his skills treating gladiators.

Doctors and Surgeons for the U.S. Armed forces hone their skills in trauma centers of big city hospitals.  Such hospitals have the most gunshots and stab wounds and therefore it is the best place to train for the real thing.
Our special forces (SAS, SBS, ect) used the same method as well, it really is a good idea if you ask me, esspecially if there are arsehole drunks to deal with >:D
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #34 on: October 19, 2007, 10:11:09 PM
They were really advanced in the field of amputations too, and it wasnt till the first world war that modern medicine caught up :)
                      Not surprising really. Know what Roman doctors called gladiatorial games? Anatomy class. :D Galen,probably the best of the ancient doctors,after Hippocrates, honed his skills treating gladiators.

Doctors and Surgeons for the U.S. Armed forces hone their skills in trauma centers of big city hospitals.  Such hospitals have the most gunshots and stab wounds and therefore it is the best place to train for the real thing.
Our special forces (SAS, SBS, ect) used the same method as well, it really is a good idea if you ask me, esspecially if there are arsehole drunks to deal with >:D
                Having dealt with drunks in their natural environment,I can safely say a SAS team would have it's work cut out for them.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #35 on: October 19, 2007, 10:21:49 PM
Well if you read one of chris ryan's biographies, that's what happened to him, and let's just say the drunk was lucky to be in the hospital when Mr Ryan hit him >:D
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #36 on: October 20, 2007, 12:42:22 AM
What a wonderfully interesting find!

I am especially intrigued by the knife blade. Seems like everything new was once old. It's also keen to see some embellishment on the main section of the tool, something we rarely see in modern tools.

Would this tool be categorized as Multitool-Spoon/Fork based?


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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #37 on: October 20, 2007, 04:24:27 AM
I'm curious about the blade too. Especially how it's held open;did the ancients know metallurgy well enough to  create springs,or was some kind of locking system employed?
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #38 on: October 20, 2007, 05:05:01 AM
Really interesting find/thread.  I always assumed the OSS escape tool was the "first" multitool...maybe the first plier based tool...but that's another conversation 8)

I was also thinking some parts like maybe scales made of wood or a leather sheath may have been turnt to dust over the centuries.

Any idea on that that bird head shaped thing is?  A specialized blade of some kind?
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #39 on: October 20, 2007, 09:20:15 AM
I'm curious about the blade too. Especially how it's held open;did the ancients know metallurgy well enough to  create springs,or was some kind of locking system employed?
It's possible that they may have used leaf/flat spring I suppose, They were used to the principals of tension and release from there siege weapons, but i though spring technology occured around the same time as the first match locks ???
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #40 on: October 20, 2007, 12:07:04 PM
Wonder if it has a lifetime warrenty  >:D and do you think the LM bit adapter will fit ?

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #41 on: October 20, 2007, 02:24:21 PM
Wonder if it has a lifetime warrenty  >:D and do you think the LM bit adapter will fit ?

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Hehe, good one!  :D

I'll find out; the replica company is sending me one next month. (They seem like great folks. A mom & pop company in the U.K.)

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #42 on: October 20, 2007, 02:27:00 PM


Specs on the original museum piece say it was made of silver, with an iron knife blade. Looks like the knife blade is broken on this one.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #43 on: October 20, 2007, 02:35:24 PM
Still in great condition all things considered though :)
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #44 on: October 20, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Is it true the Roman Army commissioned J-Sews to make the blade one hand opening and to also put a pocket clip on it? ;)

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #45 on: October 20, 2007, 06:23:10 PM
Age and date wise that could put the two together  ;)

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #46 on: October 20, 2007, 07:32:30 PM
Really interesting find/thread.  I always assumed the OSS escape tool was the "first" multitool...maybe the first plier based tool...but that's another conversation 8)

I was also thinking some parts like maybe scales made of wood or a leather sheath may have been turnt to dust over the centuries.

Any idea on that that bird head shaped thing is?  A specialized blade of some kind?

I too wondered what that blade was for.  Possibly a specilized tool for eating somthing common at that time.  Roman food cannot usually be found at the local Itallian market.  Romans were fond of foods such as ostritch eyes, and other "lesser cuts of meat."  The eating of bone marrow was very common so it could have been a tool for marrow extraction or prying open shelfish.  The possibilities are quite endless.  If it exists on this tool it surely would have been used as a seperate tool sometime during that period.  The only way that one could know would be to contact a historian that specilizes in Roman eating implements.  I am sure that someone has done their doctoral studies on such a topic.  I did my senior thesis on Stone tools so I cant help with this one.  However, now that I am really interested in this tool I could tap my sources and see what I can dig up.


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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #47 on: October 20, 2007, 09:59:24 PM
Know any good granite multi tools?  :D

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #48 on: October 20, 2007, 11:11:59 PM
Really interesting find/thread.  I always assumed the OSS escape tool was the "first" multitool...maybe the first plier based tool...but that's another conversation 8)

I was also thinking some parts like maybe scales made of wood or a leather sheath may have been turnt to dust over the centuries.

Any idea on that that bird head shaped thing is?  A specialized blade of some kind?

I too wondered what that blade was for.  Possibly a specilized tool for eating somthing common at that time.  Roman food cannot usually be found at the local Itallian market.  Romans were fond of foods such as ostritch eyes, and other "lesser cuts of meat."  The eating of bone marrow was very common so it could have been a tool for marrow extraction or prying open shelfish.  The possibilities are quite endless.  If it exists on this tool it surely would have been used as a seperate tool sometime during that period.  The only way that one could know would be to contact a historian that specilizes in Roman eating implements.  I am sure that someone has done their doctoral studies on such a topic.  I did my senior thesis on Stone tools so I cant help with this one.  However, now that I am really interested in this tool I could tap my sources and see what I can dig up.
                   I'm curious about where it was manufactured. parts of the Empire were more renowned for metalworking  than other parts.The Celts..or Gauls if you prefer ,were phenomenally good at working gold and iron.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #49 on: October 20, 2007, 11:26:37 PM
This is pretty fascinating stuff.  Keep it up!

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #50 on: October 20, 2007, 11:51:04 PM
Is it true the Roman Army commissioned J-Sews to make the blade one hand opening and to also put a pocket clip on it? ;)

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That is true, and they are still waiting on it. Perhaps it will be complete in another millennia or two... ;)
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #51 on: October 21, 2007, 12:55:15 AM
Is it true the Roman Army commissioned J-Sews to make the blade one hand opening and to also put a pocket clip on it? ;)

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That is true, and they are still waiting on it. Perhaps it will be complete in another millennia or two... ;)

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #52 on: October 21, 2007, 05:57:38 AM
Is it true the Roman Army commissioned J-Sews to make the blade one hand opening and to also put a pocket clip on it? ;)

Mike

That is true, and they are still waiting on it. Perhaps it will be complete in another millennia or two... ;)
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #53 on: October 21, 2007, 05:01:26 PM
 Bob,when you get the repro,I hope you do some thorough testing and reviewing as far as function and ease of use.I'm really curious about how it would stack up against it's modern day counterparts.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #54 on: October 21, 2007, 10:47:44 PM
Bob,when you get the repro,I hope you do some thorough testing and reviewing as far as function and ease of use.I'm really curious about how it would stack up against it's modern day counterparts.

No problemo Bob. We will both have to be patient however, as the nice lady I communicated with says that none will be ready for shipment until late November. Oh well.  :-\


By the way, while the original was mostly made from silver, the replicas are made from bronze.
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #55 on: October 21, 2007, 11:11:56 PM
Very cool.  I may have to see if I can squeeze a few extra dollars out sometime myself for one of those.  It looks like a heck of a conversation piece!

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #56 on: October 23, 2007, 05:57:39 PM
Know any good granite multi tools?  :D

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No, but I have found some great granite hammerstones.  I guess that they have multiple purposes.  One of the most common of the uses other than hammering was "squaw hushing."  In case you dont know what this activity is please feel free to ask. :)     


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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #57 on: October 25, 2007, 02:00:13 AM
I always find it amazing that no matter what we think we know about the past, there is always something new to learn.  That tool is a great example of how innovative the Romans were.  I predict that the replica website will see a surge in sales in the not too distant future.

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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #58 on: October 25, 2007, 01:13:30 PM
Know any good granite multi tools?  :D

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No, but I have found some great granite hammerstones.  I guess that they have multiple purposes.  One of the most common of the uses other than hammering was "squaw hushing."  In case you dont know what this activity is please feel free to ask. :)     

Ok someone has to ask.  Squaw hushing?
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Re: Roman Multitool
Reply #59 on: October 25, 2007, 02:59:39 PM
Know any good granite multi tools?  :D

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No, but I have found some great granite hammerstones.  I guess that they have multiple purposes.  One of the most common of the uses other than hammering was "squaw hushing."  In case you dont know what this activity is please feel free to ask. :)     

Ok someone has to ask.  Squaw hushing?
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