And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #3060 on:** September 13, 2015, 06:36:01 PM

I so need one of those black explorers.

tommywp · **Reply #3061 on:** September 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PM

Syph - Two questions about 93mm configurations: Could the hawkbill from a Harvester be put opposite the main blade or would something like a Pruner need to be used (where the hawkbill is already in that spot); are the same backsprings used for the 1.5 layer Phillips/2 opener layer as for seperate Phillips/bottle opener and hawkbill/can opener layers...trying to understand if the difference in width is just the liner. Thanks man.

Syph007 · **Reply #3062 on:** September 14, 2015, 07:32:37 PM

Quote from: tommywp on September 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PM

Syph - Two questions about 93mm configurations: Could the hawkbill from a Harvester be put opposite the main blade or would something like a Pruner need to be used (where the hawkbill is already in that spot); are the same backsprings used for the 1.5 layer Phillips/2 opener layer as for seperate Phillips/bottle opener and hawkbill/can opener layers...trying to understand if the difference in width is just the liner. Thanks man.

The pruner blade is the same shape in either spot, just slightly bent differently. I have used them interchangeably with no issues.

The triple tool layer with the phillips uses 2 standard opener layer springs. The can opener position can be occupied by the can opener, eblade or pruner blade.

Sakpan74Gr · **Reply #3063 on:** September 14, 2015, 09:10:29 PM

Syph007, is it possible to add a small blade next to the Philips on the triple layer, like the penknife or the pruner?

Syph007 · **Reply #3064 on:** September 14, 2015, 10:32:10 PM

Quote from: Sakpan74Gr on September 14, 2015, 09:10:29 PM

Syph007, is it possible to add a small blade next to the Philips on the triple layer, like the penknife or the pruner?

Not enough room no.

Syph007 · **Reply #3065 on:** September 16, 2015, 07:36:00 PM

I did so many Ti 91mm mods, I used up the rest of my scales so I got another hunk of Ti cut into parts.

Lots of sizes here...

84mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
91mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
93mm fronts and backs.

tommywp · **Reply #3066 on:** September 16, 2015, 07:57:39 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 16, 2015, 07:36:00 PM

I did so many Ti 91mm mods, I used up the rest of my scales so I got another hunk of Ti cut into parts.

Lots of sizes here...

84mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
91mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
93mm fronts and backs.

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Don't suppose you have some 84mm scissor backsprings coming to go with those 84mm scales?

Syph007 · **Reply #3067 on:** September 16, 2015, 08:15:26 PM

Quote from: tommywp on September 16, 2015, 07:57:39 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 16, 2015, 07:36:00 PM
I did so many Ti 91mm mods, I used up the rest of my scales so I got another hunk of Ti cut into parts.

Lots of sizes here...

84mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
91mm front, backs, and backs with no cutout.
93mm fronts and backs.

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Don't suppose you have some 84mm scissor backsprings coming to go with those 84mm scales?

I actually made the decision to run those when Victorinox said they are going to be doing 93mm with scissors (which I've heard no updates on but I hope they still plan to), so yes its on the list to make but there are a few things ahead of that still that I already have materials for. 20% of the emails I get are from people wanting 84mm mods with scissors... so... I know there is a demand.

KaySuave · **Reply #3068 on:** September 17, 2015, 04:50:46 PM

What about demand for the triple tool layer on the 91mm?

Syph007 · **Reply #3069 on:** September 17, 2015, 05:39:08 PM

Quote from: KaySuave on September 17, 2015, 04:50:46 PM

What about demand for the triple tool layer on the 91mm?

It would be popular if it was possible. Cant do it though.

The most popular mod I do those is the super tinker, which is kind of the same tools as that model, but on 91. I know the backside phillips is a compromise though.

I will probably end up making some wenger style wrenches to pair with the top side phillips as lots of people want inline phillips but not the plastic mag glass.

windson · **Reply #3070 on:** September 17, 2015, 07:10:49 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 17, 2015, 05:39:08 PM

Quote from: KaySuave on September 17, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
What about demand for the triple tool layer on the 91mm?

It would be popular if it was possible. Cant do it though.

The most popular mod I do those is the super tinker, which is kind of the same tools as that model, but on 91. I know the backside phillips is a compromise though.

I will probably end up making some wenger style wrenches to pair with the top side phillips as lots of people want inline phillips but not the plastic mag glass.

Why not make a metal mag glass?

Syph007 · **Reply #3071 on:** September 18, 2015, 12:53:16 AM

Quote from: windson on September 17, 2015, 07:10:49 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 17, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: KaySuave on September 17, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
What about demand for the triple tool layer on the 91mm?

It would be popular if it was possible. Cant do it though.

The most popular mod I do those is the super tinker, which is kind of the same tools as that model, but on 91. I know the backside phillips is a compromise though.

I will probably end up making some wenger style wrenches to pair with the top side phillips as lots of people want inline phillips but not the plastic mag glass.
Why not make a metal mag glass?

Hard to see through!

But yes I will cut some Ti ones for an upgrade option. I have some Ti being cut in a few weeks that is the right thickness so I'll have some cut then.

Syph007 · **Reply #3072 on:** September 18, 2015, 12:53:50 AM

Aloxplorer!

windson · **Reply #3073 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:05:05 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 18, 2015, 12:53:16 AM

Quote from: windson on September 17, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on September 17, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: KaySuave on September 17, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
What about demand for the triple tool layer on the 91mm?

It would be popular if it was possible. Cant do it though.

The most popular mod I do those is the super tinker, which is kind of the same tools as that model, but on 91. I know the backside phillips is a compromise though.

I will probably end up making some wenger style wrenches to pair with the top side phillips as lots of people want inline phillips but not the plastic mag glass.
Why not make a metal mag glass?

Hard to see through!

But yes I will cut some Ti ones for an upgrade option. I have some Ti being cut in a few weeks that is the right thickness so I'll have some cut then.

Seriously, I'll be in for a Ti-mag + wrench layer.

windson · **Reply #3074 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:05:46 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 18, 2015, 12:53:50 AM

Aloxplorer!

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Looks like mine!

SAK Guy · **Reply #3075 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:07:21 AM

Aloxsome!!!!!!!!!

tommywp · **Reply #3076 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:10:44 AM

Like the way you're going with the custom tools

Syph007 · **Reply #3077 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:12:17 AM

I put in a full day today and got 3 finished. This is the second one.

Syph007 · **Reply #3078 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:23:53 AM

Last one is a Ti 91mm. Not everyone was a fan of the cross on the front scale so I made some plain ones too.

This is 4mm thinner than a standard compact.

Monrogue · **Reply #3079 on:** September 18, 2015, 02:15:17 AM

Nice batch today Syph

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windson · **Reply #3080 on:** September 19, 2015, 09:36:59 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 18, 2015, 01:23:53 AM

Last one is a Ti 91mm. Not everyone was a fan of the cross on the front scale so I made some plain ones too.

This is 4mm thinner than a standard compact.

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I guess that in that configuration, with Ti scales, more stable liners, and serious screws, the backside Phillips is able to transfer and survive a lot more torque.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #3081 on:** September 19, 2015, 04:29:04 PM

Quote from: windson on September 19, 2015, 09:36:59 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 18, 2015, 01:23:53 AM
Last one is a Ti 91mm. Not everyone was a fan of the cross on the front scale so I made some plain ones too.

This is 4mm thinner than a standard compact.

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I guess that in that configuration, with Ti scales, more stable liners, and serious screws, the backside Phillips is able to transfer and survive a lot more torque.

Great observation, never thought about it.

So Syph is this true?

Syph007 · **Reply #3082 on:** September 19, 2015, 05:03:24 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 09, 2015, 04:13:58 PM

I finally got around to ordering some mokume since Ive got more Ti scale blanks coming in next week for 84, 91 and 93 mm mods with the cross cutout. I wanted some more options other than brass and aluminum to fill the cross with.

I couldnt decide so I ordered both the classic and white mokume, examples here on the knife scales. Should look interesting as the cross inlay I think.

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Well anyone interested in mokume can skip this stuff! Got it in yesterday expecting you know metal... its not. Feels like plastic. So I think if there is any metal content in there its LOW. Not impressed at all. Since its not metal it wont flow and I cant use it for inlays.

So I am annoyed and now making my own furnace with a propane torch and blocks and will weld forge some brass / nickel silver myself and see what type of mokume I can come up with.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #3083 on:** September 20, 2015, 04:57:45 AM

That is a shame. Hope you didn't invest to much into it.

On an unrelated subject, lets say I wanted a Alox SAK modded but instead of the screws you use normally could you peen it? Pretty sure I have seen you dk this before.

Syph007 · **Reply #3084 on:** September 20, 2015, 06:03:20 AM

Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on September 20, 2015, 04:57:45 AM

That is a shame. Hope you didn't invest to much into it.

On an unrelated subject, lets say I wanted a Alox SAK modded but instead of the screws you use normally could you peen it? Pretty sure I have seen you dk this before.

I can do that ya, Im just not an expert at hand rivetting. I can make work fine, but making the heads look perfect is pretty tough.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #3085 on:** September 20, 2015, 06:36:32 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on September 20, 2015, 06:03:20 AM

Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on September 20, 2015, 04:57:45 AM
That is a shame. Hope you didn't invest to much into it.

On an unrelated subject, lets say I wanted a Alox SAK modded but instead of the screws you use normally could you peen it? Pretty sure I have seen you dk this before.

I can do that ya, Im just not an expert at hand rivetting. I can make work fine, but making the heads look perfect is pretty tough.

No need for perfect.

It is for the OC Pioneer I got from Aloha. It has weak snap and no brass liners. Plan to have it modded a little and brass liners added. Will be a beater patina SAK.