3rd generation Wave?

[Kampfer]

The original Surge was introduced in 2005, after 8 years it was replaced by its 2nd generation last year with stronger pliers along other small improvements.

The best-selling "New" Wave was introduced in 2004, do you think it is about time for the 3rd generation Wave to be plan out with replaceable wire cutter pliers and other improved features?

[enki_ck]

The replaceable cutters plier head is a probable option that could follow soon, maybe even next year as LM standardizes their line. It's simpler to just make one head that fits all tools in production instead making two different ones, one for the Wave/charge and one for the Rebar. I hope they don't do it though.

What other changes/improvements would you like to be made on a 3rd gen Wave?

It's one of the best ones they make currently. I'd only wish they changed the orientation of the file, placing the diamond side on the inside so it doesn't scrape the handle. We actually had a factory mishap posted a few years ago here that had those sides reversed. It would be great if that would be made standard though.

[Gareth]

Personally I'd happily see the small bit driver gone.  Takes up a lot of space for two pretty terrible screwdrivers.

[enki_ck]

Personally I'd happily see the small bit driver gone.  Takes up a lot of space for two pretty terrible screwdrivers.

That's a screwdriver?

I thought it was a general pokey thing.



Might drop that one in favour of an awl.

[Bensasupertool]

I would like to see the scales as streamline like on the original Wave model. I prefer the slimmer feel. Maybe a pipe dream if the bigger plier head with the replaceable wire cutters are added. Also interchangeable tools would be a plus. Its a feature on the LEAP, with its removable knife blade. You could have the option of turning the Wave into a Surge/Charge like tool with interchangeable outside opening tools. DLC coating too.

[Kampfer]

Might drop that one in favour of an awl.

In a heartbeat.
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Put scissors outside.
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Stronger pliers
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Nearly perfect.

[ducttapetech]

C30v blades
Awl
Outside scissors would be nice, but not a must.
New plier head.
Maybe handes could come is different colours.

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[enki_ck]

For those that would like the outside scissors, which tool would you drop in their favour?

[ducttapetech]

Serrated blade.

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[enki_ck]

Serrated blade.

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That was my first move too when I added the Vic ones but I later decided to dump the saw in it's favour. If I'm going to the woods or plan on doing any kind of cutting I have a folding saw or a SAK with one anyways and the serrated blade can come handy at times.

[Kampfer]

Scale down the new Surge to 4" I would be happy.

[BigMatt]

New plierhead with cutters,
Flat head driver replaced by a awl (It snaps off with any prying action so every body is using the plier head for that),
Scissors replaced by a long phillips, even 2D,
Serrated blade replaced with outside scissors Surge style.

 If I had an idea how to put scissors outside I would had the recharge long time ago

[Smashie]

Why not make the scissors fit a blade exchanger?

[Kampfer]

Why not make the scissors fit a blade exchanger?

I thought about that too, but if the scissors is removable, why not just use it by itself, no reason to attach to MT.

[ducttapetech]

Not sure if the blade exchanger will work all that great on a wave. The saw and file would have to be really short to fold back into the handle.

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[Smashie]

Ok, how about replacing the mini bit driver with a blade exchanger?

[Aloha]

Scale down the new Surge to 4" I would be happy.

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[Craiger]

New plier head with replaceable cutters
Remove large flat-head and replace with awl
Sell an accessory metal saw that fits the pocket clip slot
-or even better-
make the pocket clip slot T-shank compatible!

Don't take away the small driver! Besides watch screws and a toothpick, it makes a great zip-tie unlocker!

[CanadianLMfan]

I want a Wave with:

-scissors replacing saw
-154CM wire cutters and stronger pliers
-awl instead of bit driver

Like a New Surge but with a smaller size.

[sir_mike]

Why cant they make the mini screw driver bit fit into the fatter bit holder by just having it taper down to the mini at the end?

They dont need a seperate bit driver tool, just make one that works in the bigger one!

[Gareth]

Personally I'd happily see the small bit driver gone.  Takes up a lot of space for two pretty terrible screwdrivers.

That's a screwdriver?

I thought it was a general pokey thing.



Might drop that one in favour of an awl.

It is indeed.   However, as a general pokey thing, it takes up a lot of space.   A good awl would be much better.

[Deere Man]

Considering that the Wave/Charge is the last of the full size tools to have the old style plier head, I'd say we're long overdue for an updated model.  Considering that the Wave is their number one seller, I can't believe they updated the Surge first. 

I actually like the four outer tools just like they are and I don't mind the small scissors.  I'd be glad to see either or both of the bit drivers gone.  Replace the small one with an awl or a smaller flathead and the large with a real phillips.  I don't see the large bit driver going anywhere though as I think it's considered a selling point for the tool and it allows Leatherman to sell bit kits. 

[jsutter]

I would like to see the replaceable cutters like the Rebar, but with a little better/finer of a grind for the "teeth" of the pliers like the Wave currently has or the ST300 has. I would also like better scissors and the diamond file. Lighter and thinner if possible, even if that means ditching one of he blades and/or something else.

[Wilfried]

I'm happy with the current tool configuration and would certainly not drop the mini screwdriver since many times it came in handy to adjust my spectacles amongst other things.

Sounds boring? Yes, probably...

[Cupboard]

If it works for you

I don't have much time for the small bit driver, it doesn't fit my glasses very well and IMO there are far more useful things that can go in that spot.

In a real pinch you can use a blade or, for that matter, a finger to do the same job.

[Aloha]

I use my mini driver on my SAk for my glasses but i like the small driver on the wave and surge for loosening zip ties.  I would loose the can opener instead and add an awl.