Unlocking your Spirit

[firiki]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

[magentus]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

[firiki]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science? 

[magentus]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science?

Or you could look at it as the locking device being like those restraining bolts that poor R2D2 and C3PO have to wear to stop them escaping. It will literally be unlocked - free to be.

[firiki]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science?

Or you could look at it as the locking device being like those restraining bolts that poor R2D2 and C3PO have to wear to stop them escaping. It will literally be unlocked - free to be.

The way I see it, that's like (permanently) losing half a backbone?

[magentus]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science?

Or you could look at it as the locking device being like those restraining bolts that poor R2D2 and C3PO have to wear to stop them escaping. It will literally be unlocked - free to be.

The way I see it, that's like (permanently) losing half a backbone?

Or gaining our respect and admiration for 'going the extra mile' in pursuit of knowledge.

[firiki]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science?

Or you could look at it as the locking device being like those restraining bolts that poor R2D2 and C3PO have to wear to stop them escaping. It will literally be unlocked - free to be.

The way I see it, that's like (permanently) losing half a backbone?

Or gaining our respect and admiration for 'going the extra mile' in pursuit of knowledge.

Go on then

[magentus]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

Might as well end it's misery... ?

I'd say it can still lead a meaningful life with a little care. 

And if it doesn't lock it will have one less thing to have to remember in its decreptitude. 

It will remember probably, that it once was a locking tool, that after eagerly taking plenty of beating, as it was meant to, some dude came and crippled it for science?

Or you could look at it as the locking device being like those restraining bolts that poor R2D2 and C3PO have to wear to stop them escaping. It will literally be unlocked - free to be.

The way I see it, that's like (permanently) losing half a backbone?

Or gaining our respect and admiration for 'going the extra mile' in pursuit of knowledge.

Go on then

But I actively avoid gaining anyones respect and admiration. Have you read my posts? 

[ThePeacent]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

What'cha want me do to it? I'm open to suggestions, just need the instructions   

[zoidberg]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

What'cha want me do to it? I'm open to suggestions, just need the instructions   

Rip the little spring out.

[magentus]

Maybe ThePeacent could be persuaded to perform amputating surgery on this tormented Spirit?  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70871.msg1452454/topicseen.html#msg1452454

I'am not gonna ask him though. The poor thing has suffered already!

What'cha want me do to it? I'm open to suggestions, just need the instructions   

Rip the little spring out.

This. I haven't found a way to remove the spring without breaking it, so don't attempt it unless you really want to. 

[Aloha]

Right - I've hit a snag:

The spring can be levered out so far, but the anchor point doesn't have any head room to be prised out of it's housing.
spirit inside by magpie2112, on Flickr
Thanks for the pic J-Man 

I wonder if sliding the lock lever would make in difference in getting the spring free?

Is there any way of compressing the loop of the spring a bit more?  The rounded part where the arrow is pointing?  Maybe that will help dislodge the spring?

[magentus]

I've tried sliding the lock to and fro to see if that would work. No good.

I imagine that with enough force I could prise the spring out, but I can't see a way to replace it without speSmurfpillst tools. Seeing this is the only Spirit I'm ever likely to have, I don't want to take the risk. 

[Mechanickal]

I've tried sliding the lock to and fro to see if that would work. No good.

I imagine that with enough force I could prise the spring out, but I can't see a way to replace it without speSmurfpillst tools. Seeing this is the only Spirit I'm ever likely to have, I don't want to take the risk. 

Did you try blocking the spring like I said in one of my previous posts (that probably disguised itself among the other brabble)?

[magentus]

I've tried sliding the lock to and fro to see if that would work. No good.

I imagine that with enough force I could prise the spring out, but I can't see a way to replace it without speSmurfpillst tools. Seeing this is the only Spirit I'm ever likely to have, I don't want to take the risk. 

Did you try blocking the spring like I said in one of my previous posts (that probably disguised itself among the other brabble)?

I have put your excellent aside until I finish work - I would have thought that legally the tool would have to be made permanently unlocked to be ok though, but I may be wrong.....it has been known 

[Mechanickal]

I've tried sliding the lock to and fro to see if that would work. No good.

I imagine that with enough force I could prise the spring out, but I can't see a way to replace it without speSmurfpillst tools. Seeing this is the only Spirit I'm ever likely to have, I don't want to take the risk. 

Did you try blocking the spring like I said in one of my previous posts (that probably disguised itself among the other brabble)?

I have put your excellent aside until I finish work - I would have thought that legally the tool would have to be made permanently unlocked to be ok though, but I may be wrong.....it has been known 

It's permanently locked that way... if the officer in question believes it to be...

[Aloha]

Having a look at my Spirit.  What I wasn't seeing was the loop end is just slightly under the frame.  I believe the other end would need to be lifted and tilted to allow the loop end to slide out.  It may distort the spring so that will be a problem. 

Now I am wondering when the spring is taken out will the tools flop since the spring seems to add the needed tension?

[jaya_man]

Having a look at my Spirit.  What I wasn't seeing was the loop end is just slightly under the frame.  I believe the other end would need to be lifted and tilted to allow the loop end to slide out.  It may distort the spring so that will be a problem. 

Now I am wondering when the spring is taken out will the tools flop since the spring seems to add the needed tension?

The spring is there to lock it in place (folding is impossible unless slide lock is disengaged). Tension is still there from the backspring. Although not the same amount of tension from 91mm SAKs...


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[ThePeacent]

Ok, I'll get to it ASAP when i get to the basement this night. What should I expect when removing the spring, loose tools? Non-locking tools on that handle? Non locking blade only?...
  answers and I'll give you pics and experiment Guinea Pigs!

[jaya_man]

Ok, I'll get to it ASAP when i get to the basement this night. What should I expect when removing the spring, loose tools? Non-locking tools on that handle? Non locking blade only?...
  answers and I'll give you pics and experiment Guinea Pigs!

Mags I think is looking at a non-locking tools... but I think if the spring is removed, all tools in the handle will be unlocking...


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[Poncho65]

[magentus]

Ok, I'll get to it ASAP when i get to the basement this night. What should I expect when removing the spring, loose tools? Non-locking tools on that handle? Non locking blade only?...
  answers and I'll give you pics and experiment Guinea Pigs!

Thanks TP - I don't think the tools will be loose - from my experiments there should still be sufficient tension on the tools to maintain their utility.
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[Hambango]

You could also try to somehow fill the notch on the blade to prevent the lock from sliding in.
Maybe with a drop of solder, which should be easily reversible.



This way the other tools would still be lockable and no permanent damage would be done.

Just food for thought... I'm not responsible if you're turning your MT into a tin figure! 

[Poncho65]

You may be on to something there Ham Perhaps form both side of the knife blade with some sort of thin metal to keep the solder from going everywhere and then fill in the gap, followed by a good filing and sanding If it would bind correctly you would have a fully lockable tool except for the blade

[magentus]

That is a pretty good idea! Has anyone got ThePeacants basement phone number so we can call him up before he rips his springs out? 

[ThePeacent]

Ok, so it's done.  At first all implements lock and have strong detent. Classic Victorinox motion, nice fluis snaps and half stops.





I used the MP600's blade to pop off the spring. It slided off its place and opened (widened) but still remained attached to the tab on the outer part of the corner.



This sliding tab is soldered to the spring, so even if you pop it off its original position the spring remains attached to the tool. So I forced it a bit more. I grabbed it with the needle nose pliers and pulled.



Took some force but finally snapped off cleanly.

The tools still have detent, and won't come off the closed position or move even if I shake the Spirit. They remain closed -or open- under tension. But as you might have guessed, the implements do no longer lock.

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It takes some force, but with a finger's strength one can close the open blade, or any of the handle's implements. It cannot longer be repaired easily, the spring is "broken" and should be somehow attached again to the tab, that remains now in a backed up position (as if it were permanently unlocked)

[Troels]

I have unlocked blades in 3 MTs, some would say ruined Two of these were swisstools which I think has the same locking mekanisms as the Spirit

This was my first try so it did not end that nicely 
Basicly it makes the blades into slip joints by grinding away the notch which is blocked by the sliding lock. It worked fine, in my use, for 4 years as slip joints.



It was done with a common metal file.

Due to the laws in my country at the time, all pointy tools were unlocked.

[Poncho65]

Great to know that this works

Thanks for trying this Peacent and Troels has given another approach to this as well

[ThePeacent]

Great to know that this works

Thanks for trying this Peacent and Troels has given another approach to this as well

Can you see the video I linked? I think I messed up, but if I haven't, I did some more video on that "detent" and easy closing

[twiliter]

I have unlocked blades in 3 MTs, some would say ruined Two of these were swisstools which I think has the same locking mekanisms as the Spirit

This was my first try so it did not end that nicely 
Basicly it makes the blades into slip joints by grinding away the notch which is blocked by the sliding lock. It worked fine, in my use, for 4 years as slip joints.
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It was done with a common metal file.

Due to the laws in my country at the time, all pointy tools were unlocked.

This is what I was talking about way back when, good work Troels!