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Folding Knives for EDC 2127

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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2017, 11:28:08 AM »
I included recent designs that mimic the traditional style and don't have the "tactical" look and features (clip, thumbstud/disk/hole, synthetic scales and exotic steels, liner or framelocks).
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2017, 07:28:28 PM »
It never ends. Added 24 regional French knives, for a total of 70 French and 284 altogether. When I'll reach 300 I'll post the files again.
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2017, 01:31:15 PM »
I started with 11 and I thought I had a full list at 25! Now 300 and whole continents are uncovered. I searched for information but there was lack of or language barriers. What about Latin America?
At least, the designs with international market impact are mostly included.

I'm back to work. I must stop but I became fixated on this the last days.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2017, 01:35:38 PM by kkokkolis »

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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2017, 04:26:18 PM »
I started with 11 and I thought I had a full list at 25! Now 300 and whole continents are uncovered. I searched for information but there was lack of or language barriers. What about Latin America?
At least, the designs with international market impact are mostly included.

I'm back to work. I must stop but I became fixated on this the last days.

I'll try to get some info on the portuguese ones. As soon as I get some text and pics, I'll post it here.

Good work!
 :salute: :tu:

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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2017, 08:06:43 PM »
Thanks.


I made some attempts to attach pictures, but the file became quickly big and slow. So I deleted them.


I think that once you have the proper name of the blade, it is very easy to Google it and get some pics and more info. What matters most is to know the existence of a knife of a given name. The rest are procedures.

I used the "Blade's Blade's Guide to Knives & Their Values" by Steve Shackleford and Google Translate on non Engligh/French/Italian sites. I would like to read also the "Levine's  Guide to Knives & Their Values" but I don't have a copy. I don't know if it would be helpful. There is more info on Blade's book that could be used.

Jessan suggested I might put a link for the Excel file on Google docs, to share.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2017, 08:15:04 PM by kkokkolis »

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 15,078 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2017, 08:40:14 PM »
Maybe a thread for each of the countries with associated pics, and index of countries with links to relevant threads in this thread  :pok:


My current users:
Victorinox: - Spirit X, Climber Small, Alox Rambler, Orig. Outdoorsman, Voyager Lite, CT34 & 41, Compact, Manager, Salesman, + mods (Sheepsfoot Duke & Mega84)
Wenger: - Traveler, PTC + mods (Brian)
Gerber: - Balance, Dime + mods (MP426**, DEsTroyer, MP6000**, TurboDiesel**, Neutered Octane**)
Leatherman: - Sideclip, KF4, + mods (Fuse-ilier**, Knifeless Wave**)
Others: - Vise Grips LC6
** = knifeless
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #97 on: August 29, 2017, 02:37:51 PM »
Italiani 103, Francais 102, Rest of the World 128, for a total of 333 so far.


And not only I learned a lot about traditional and traditional inspired knives, but I found a knife I was searching for 2-3 years. When I get it I will post, don't ask.
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #98 on: August 29, 2017, 03:58:20 PM »
Yes, I'm suggesting an online version of the file as well like being hosted by Google Doc or Google Sheet so anyone here with a link can contribute?
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #99 on: August 29, 2017, 04:34:28 PM »
Italiani 103, Francais 102, Rest of the World 128, for a total of 333 so far.


And not only I learned a lot about traditional and traditional inspired knives, but I found a knife I was searching for 2-3 years. When I get it I will post, don't ask.

So, only half evil, huh?...
 :whistle:

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2017, 11:30:59 PM »
Yes, I'm suggesting an online version of the file as well like being hosted by Google Doc or Google Sheet so anyone here with a link can contribute?


I'll do that when I'll reach the limits of my possibilities. Maybe soon.
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2017, 11:23:53 AM »

So, only half evil, huh?...
 :whistle:


It was. Now it's 367. Indian, Chinese, German and French knives added.
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2017, 11:57:30 AM »
Updated with AngloSaxon designs, count 422.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2017, 12:02:55 PM by kkokkolis »

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #105 on: August 31, 2017, 02:21:48 PM »

And a Google Docs link.

https://docs.google.com/s...mn6mpZHA/edit?usp=sharing


If anyone has data to add, we'll consider the way to do it.
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #106 on: September 02, 2017, 09:45:06 AM »
I think I should classify Swiss knives also.
The frames of the Classics, the Executives, the Officer's, the (old) Soldier's and the (new) Soldier's knives are different. The Rangers and German Army also. Should I differentiate Vic from Wenger too?
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Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #107 on: September 02, 2017, 06:33:15 PM »
I think I should classify Swiss knives also.
The frames of the Classics, the Executives, the Officer's, the (old) Soldier's and the (new) Soldier's knives are different. The Rangers and German Army also. Should I differentiate Vic from Wenger too?


I'd vote to differentiate them as its only recently (historically speaking) that Victorinox absorbed Wenger
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 15,078 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #108 on: September 02, 2017, 07:42:53 PM »
If you're considering lines/products which are no longer made, how many others that are on the list are like this? I thought you were only looking at stuff that was still in production  :think:


My current users:
Victorinox: - Spirit X, Climber Small, Alox Rambler, Orig. Outdoorsman, Voyager Lite, CT34 & 41, Compact, Manager, Salesman, + mods (Sheepsfoot Duke & Mega84)
Wenger: - Traveler, PTC + mods (Brian)
Gerber: - Balance, Dime + mods (MP426**, DEsTroyer, MP6000**, TurboDiesel**, Neutered Octane**)
Leatherman: - Sideclip, KF4, + mods (Fuse-ilier**, Knifeless Wave**)
Others: - Vise Grips LC6
** = knifeless
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #109 on: September 02, 2017, 08:09:47 PM »
This isn't a market research. I wanted to see the diversity of traditional folders. The evolution if you like.
Spanish, Portuguese, French and Italians still make all of them, through companies or custom artisans. The same goes for most of the Anglosaxon designs, made in the US, Germany and China. Wengers are still made and sold as Delemonts. Even the Lebanese are still made.
Others were made until recently, in the 20th century, so one might encounter them on ebay and auction sites.

In fact, very few are included that are obscure or ancient.
Still, you may remove the designs you don't like and thus make a different version of the list.
Or inform me about other designs, in order to enrich my version.
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 15,078 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #110 on: September 02, 2017, 09:10:12 PM »
This isn't a market research. I wanted to see the diversity of traditional folders. The evolution if you like.
Spanish, Portuguese, French and Italians still make all of them, through companies or custom artisans. The same goes for most of the Anglosaxon designs, made in the US, Germany and China. Wengers are still made and sold as Delemonts. Even the Lebanese are still made.
Others were made until recently, in the 20th century, so one might encounter them on ebay and auction sites.

In fact, very few are included that are obscure or ancient.
Still, you may remove the designs you don't like and thus make a different version of the list.
Or inform me about other designs, in order to enrich my version.

If we start looking at the older patterns, it gets a lot more complicated. Here's an example of what I mean, and I can see several missing patterns from those shown there, which I'd have to look at different time periods for. By which I mean things like fruit knives, grape hooks, melon knives, cabbage knives, asparagus knives, swing guards, folding dirks, the various scissor laden knives, lobster pattern and sleeveboard variants, blah blah blah

http://www.bladeforums.co...patterns-of-1816.1345975/


My current users:
Victorinox: - Spirit X, Climber Small, Alox Rambler, Orig. Outdoorsman, Voyager Lite, CT34 & 41, Compact, Manager, Salesman, + mods (Sheepsfoot Duke & Mega84)
Wenger: - Traveler, PTC + mods (Brian)
Gerber: - Balance, Dime + mods (MP426**, DEsTroyer, MP6000**, TurboDiesel**, Neutered Octane**)
Leatherman: - Sideclip, KF4, + mods (Fuse-ilier**, Knifeless Wave**)
Others: - Vise Grips LC6
** = knifeless
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #111 on: September 02, 2017, 09:18:44 PM »
Nice knives. Some are covered, some influenced others that are included in the list, still produced elsewhere (like swing guards).
What do you suggest? Which ones would you remove?
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 15,078 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #112 on: September 02, 2017, 09:44:51 PM »
I don't know what to suggest. Your project, and I'm just trying to chuck in what little I know. One of the issues here, is that much of the time, there weren't clearly defined patterns at all. You told them what you wanted, and that's what they made. That's why there were the big exhibition knives, to show off the versatility, and you could literally have whatever design you wanted - you weren't limited to set patterns





My current users:
Victorinox: - Spirit X, Climber Small, Alox Rambler, Orig. Outdoorsman, Voyager Lite, CT34 & 41, Compact, Manager, Salesman, + mods (Sheepsfoot Duke & Mega84)
Wenger: - Traveler, PTC + mods (Brian)
Gerber: - Balance, Dime + mods (MP426**, DEsTroyer, MP6000**, TurboDiesel**, Neutered Octane**)
Leatherman: - Sideclip, KF4, + mods (Fuse-ilier**, Knifeless Wave**)
Others: - Vise Grips LC6
** = knifeless
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2017, 09:56:02 PM »
I see a pattern there. Hedgehog knives!
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 15,078 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2017, 10:01:32 PM »
 :rofl:


My current users:
Victorinox: - Spirit X, Climber Small, Alox Rambler, Orig. Outdoorsman, Voyager Lite, CT34 & 41, Compact, Manager, Salesman, + mods (Sheepsfoot Duke & Mega84)
Wenger: - Traveler, PTC + mods (Brian)
Gerber: - Balance, Dime + mods (MP426**, DEsTroyer, MP6000**, TurboDiesel**, Neutered Octane**)
Leatherman: - Sideclip, KF4, + mods (Fuse-ilier**, Knifeless Wave**)
Others: - Vise Grips LC6
** = knifeless
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2017, 02:29:56 PM »
According to Victorinox Catalogs (and minor improvisation inspired from history):


1. (Schweizer) Offiziersmesser/Couteau d’ Officier Suisse, Mittlere/Taille Moyenne

- Kleine (Petit) 84mm (Bäckermesser/Boulanger, Uhrenöffner/Ouvre Montres)
- Evolution 85mm
- Grosse (Grand) 91mm

2. (Schweizer Soldatenmesser/Couteu de l'Armée Suisse) Pioneer

- Pioneer (Alox) 93mm

3. Kleine Taschenmesser/Petit Couteau de Poche Companion

- 58, 65mm & 74mm

4. Grosse Taschenmesser/Grand Couteau de Poche Workman

- 111mm (& older 108mm)

5. Grosse Taschenmesser/Grand Couteau de Poche Ranger & Hunter Pro

- 130mm (& older 120mm)

6. Schweizer Gartenmesser/Couteau de Jardin (Hakenmesser/Serpette, Blumenmesser/Fleuriste, Okuliermesser/Greffoir)




6 chassis types, with variations.


What do you say?

« Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 02:36:27 PM by kkokkolis »

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,477 Τετραφάρμακος
Re: Folding Knives for EDC
« Reply #116 on: September 17, 2017, 01:50:59 PM »
It is still a work in progress and I don't know where it will end after reading Levine's guide, but I have an updated 459 item version (with some more French, Hungarian and Swiss designs and some corrections, with help form Blade Forums guys) in my signature.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2017, 02:02:12 PM by kkokkolis »


 

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