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That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....

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That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
on: February 14, 2020, 10:43:18 AM
Okay, here is one just for fun...

A few days ago I was at a knife shop and there were two gentlemen at the counter looking at knives. One was pretty open about the fact that he knew little about knives, but he was interested. Sadly, gent #2 was trying to pass himself off as an expert and was spouting some of silly stuff to his friend trying to look "cool." Allow me to share some excerpts:

"This is called a Bowie Knife. It was specially designed to NEVER dull."

"That one is called a Krabar (yes, he said kray-bar) and you get one in boot camp, but the one they give you attaches to a rifle."

"The only good pocket knives are made in Germany...all the rest are basically trash."

"Surgical steel is what you want."


What are some hum-dingers you have heard over the years?
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 12:00:07 PM
I once had someone try to tell me that their Chinese SAK-a-like was in fact better than the Swiss made one's because "The Swiss ones are just so ridiculously overpriced, if the Chinese can make them for $10, why can't the Swiss?" :facepalm:

I was seriously tempted to take his piece of crap and bend the chinesium blade 90 degrees.
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 12:01:58 PM
I think I have seen that guy around here as well, spud ::) :rofl:

Many preconceived notions around here (Middle Tennessee) that are very similar to that :facepalm: :D
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 12:45:35 PM
Excellent idea for a thread Spudley  :rofl:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
Friendly police officer. "careful where you go with that, the spring is enough to be considered a lock"

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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on February 14, 2020, 12:00:07 PM
I once had someone try to tell me that their Chinese SAK-a-like was in fact better than the Swiss made one's because "The Swiss ones are just so ridiculously overpriced, if the Chinese can make them for $10, why can't the Swiss?" :facepalm:

I was seriously tempted to take his piece of crap and bend the chinesium blade 90 degrees.

Had that happen myself, and had to bite my tongue. Last time, my folks kinda got on me due to being a little negative over one.

I was looking at some of the Amazon reviews for my "cheap beater" tool I use when I'm working around others, and came across some that say they are as good as the Leatherman.  In my opinion, while the Workpro is at least passable by my standards, it's still nowhere near as good as my Leatherman. Way too soft steel, gritty action, inefficient saw, a too-small lever on the scissors and HORRIBLE cutters.

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Multitool-Locking-Cutters-Stainless/dp/B07PGNJ61P/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=workpro+multitool&qid=1581685452&sr=8-4
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 02:42:11 PM
I have seen a lot of movies filmed in your lovely part of the world.  I always loved how grey the sky looked.  I was alway drawn to the weather that seemed a bit cold and slightly rainy.  I've never been over the pond and slightly rainy seems off now.   
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: pomsbz on February 14, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
Friendly police officer. "careful where you go with that, the spring is enough to be considered a lock"

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That is funny!  :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 05:03:50 PM
Office mate: can I borrow your knife for a sec? I've got a loose thread.

Me: sure. (takes out 100% manual flipper, opens it with one finger and hands it to office mate)

Office mate: I thought switch blades were illegal! :facepalm:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 09:45:17 AM
How about the people that are clearly basing their knowledge off of what they saw in movies?

Look, the truth is, as a weapon, a knife is not the best tool for the job. If you don't believe me, and have the stomach to watch, go look up knife attack videos and see how many people get stabbed or cut but continue to fight back. They may be incapacitated later due to blood loss, but is often takes awhile. In a defense situation, you want the conflict to end quickly.

Not opening a debate on self defense, just saying there are a lot of people that see someone in the movies use a knife to take out 100 baddies with one cut each and think that is how it works. Ever been in a conversation with one of these people? Oh my, they really think that is how real life works.
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #10 on: February 18, 2020, 07:15:34 PM
Friend: "This saw isn't very good!"
Me: "That's because it's a fish scaler"

Person I don't really know: "Oh, I need a screwdriver"
Me: "I might have one"
(quick glance at screw, to see it's a Phillips)
Me: "Here you go"
(Hands over Gerber Dime with 2D Phillips deployed)
Strange person: "No, I need a cross head"
Me: "Yeah, that'll do it"
Strange person: "No, I don't think it... Oh! It does it...wow!"
(hands me the tool back)
Strange person: "That's brilliant! How does it work?"
Me: ...  :facepalm:

The real humdingers are what I see, rather than hear. The guy using his Climber that I just sharpened for him, using a lump of steel as a cutting board. People trying to close a locking blade for the first time. The guy trying to sharpen a knife held at 45 degrees to the stone. The people who unapologetically bleed on a knife I've just lent them.


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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
 :rofl:  ... how does it work?

I hope I can sleep tonight though, the steel cutting board story is creepy  :pok:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #12 on: February 18, 2020, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: AimlessWanderer on February 18, 2020, 07:15:34 PM
The people who unapologetically bleed on a knife I've just lent them.

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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #13 on: February 19, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
Does stuff from youtube count?

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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #14 on: February 19, 2020, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: ReamerPunch on February 19, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
Does stuff from youtube count?

Reviewer opens the woodsaw: "It has a saw."
Opens the serrated blade: "It has another saw."
One guy, to demonstrate the serrated blade, started sawing through a 2x4 with it. :ahhh

Guy, reviewing a Swiza:
Opens the awl: "I do not know what this is."
Opens the can opener: "I do not know what this is."
Gee, thanks for the review.

Guy reviews a no-brand multi-tool. Points out its tools do not lock. People comment that there are many others with tools that do not lock. Guy: "Has anyone ever bought a Leatherman without locking tools?"

But probably the best example is this:

Arrgh! :dwts:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #15 on: February 19, 2020, 02:51:14 PM
Oh my...and video evidence for eternity...
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #16 on: February 19, 2020, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: ReamerPunch on February 19, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
Does stuff from youtube count?

Reviewer opens the woodsaw: "It has a saw."
Opens the serrated blade: "It has another saw."
One guy, to demonstrate the serrated blade, started sawing through a 2x4 with it. :ahhh

Guy, reviewing a Swiza:
Opens the awl: "I do not know what this is."
Opens the can opener: "I do not know what this is."
Gee, thanks for the review.

Guy reviews a no-brand multi-tool. Points out its tools do not lock. People comment that there are many others with tools that do not lock. Guy: "Has anyone ever bought a Leatherman without locking tools?"

But probably the best example is this:


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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #17 on: February 19, 2020, 04:28:56 PM

But probably the best example is this:

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SOG actually replied in the comments that it was the correct way to use the can opener....  :rofl: :rofl:  :facepalm:

On a serious note, with a reply like that, I'll never buy SOG multi-tool.

Muppets.

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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #18 on: February 19, 2020, 04:31:54 PM
 :facepalm: WOW. 
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #19 on: February 19, 2020, 04:50:31 PM
I think you're supposed to rock AWAY from your body with a SAK.
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #20 on: February 19, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
If the can gets open then I guess there is no wrong way  :dunno:.  Vic can openers are used by me going forward/anticlockwise/counterclockwise.  Wenger can openers are used by me towards me/clockwise.  I'm successful 100% using these methods  ;). 
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #21 on: February 20, 2020, 03:54:41 AM
Quote from: Don Pablo on February 19, 2020, 04:50:31 PM
I think you're supposed to rock AWAY from your body with a SAK.

The video here (look about the 2:50 mark):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKNeVa8yWFk&index=7&list=PL4207882BE52117EB

and the functions and applications info here:  https://assets.victorinox.com/medias/?context=bWFzdGVyfHNha3wxNjgzMjY3fGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uL3BkZnxoMWUvaDBiLzg4MDUxMjM5NDg1NzQucGRmfDZiM2NmZDA3NjVhMDE3M2I3Y2U0ODEyNmY4MmU0ZTdjMjFhNTU1MDMwNjk5NDRjZjczMjQ3YzgyZDIzNDkyZTM

both support the idea that the standard Vic can opener is designed to be used right-handed, in a forward/counterclockwise/away-from-you motion.


Quote from: Aloha on February 19, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
If the can gets open then I guess there is no wrong way  :dunno:

Perhaps you're right about that, Aloha.   :think:


Or perhaps, to update an old adage, it is better to be thought a fool than to make a YouTube video confirming it... :facepalm:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #22 on: February 20, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Oh... I didn't know you can open a can with that scraper!   :D
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #23 on: February 20, 2020, 11:50:56 AM
 :rofl: Love that the soundtrack is some triumphant  heavy metal playing as that Bozo misuses the can opener
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #24 on: February 20, 2020, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: magentus on February 20, 2020, 11:50:56 AM
:rofl: Love that the soundtrack is some triumphant  heavy metal playing as that Bozo misuses the can opener
Oh... Now I need to go back and listen with sound on.
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #25 on: February 20, 2020, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: Aloha on February 19, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
If the can gets open then I guess there is no wrong way  :dunno: .  Vic can openers are used by me going forward/anticlockwise/counterclockwise.  Wenger can openers are used by me towards me/clockwise.  I'm successful 100% using these methods  ;) . 

I think there was once a debate on MTO of using the can opener, either clockwise or counter-clockwise, but I am totally with Aloha on this.  And who cares if the can gets opened?

I grew up using on right hand clockwise for many years, and also did tried and compared it to counter clockwise.  I really don't see much difference between two methods.  Sometimes going counter-clockwise, I always feel the blade may skid a little and I have to pay a little more attention to keep it going forward, also I feel it's slightly less efficient since I could never utilize the full length of the opener, but counter clockwise is just brainless rocking motion and I can always utilize the full length since it always starts from the corner.  But that could just be me getting used to clockwise motion. :dunno:

However, I do have to admit if you want the fastest (and potentially dangerous) way to open a can, counterclockwise is where the money is:



Quote from: spudley112 on February 14, 2020, 10:43:18 AM
Okay, here is one just for fun...

A few days ago I was at a knife shop and there were two gentlemen at the counter looking at knives. One was pretty open about the fact that he knew little about knives, but he was interested. Sadly, gent #2 was trying to pass himself off as an expert and was spouting some of silly stuff to his friend trying to look "cool." Allow me to share some excerpts:

"This is called a Bowie Knife. It was specially designed to NEVER dull."

"That one is called a Krabar (yes, he said kray-bar) and you get one in boot camp, but the one they give you attaches to a rifle."

"The only good pocket knives are made in Germany...all the rest are basically trash."

"Surgical steel is what you want."


What are some hum-dingers you have heard over the years?

On a second thought, I'd love to see a surgical steel Kray-bar bowie that never need sharpening...sounds too good to be true!  :drool: :rofl:
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #26 on: February 20, 2020, 04:48:53 PM
I was at a knife shop in Missouri that had a sign that said, "If you bleed on it, you just bought it." I laughed when I saw the sign, but the owner said, "I sell one or two a week by that policy."
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Re: That thing attached to the doohickey on your knife....
Reply #27 on: February 20, 2020, 04:57:52 PM
I'd be terrified of bleeding on a Damascus. :ahhh
So no touch, basically. :D
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Reply #28 on: February 20, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: spudley112 on February 20, 2020, 04:48:53 PM
I was at a knife shop in Missouri that had a sign that said, "If you bleed on it, you just bought it." I laughed when I saw the sign, but the owner said, "I sell one or two a week by that policy."

 :facepalm: :D  Kinda reminded me a sign I used to see in a favorite Indian restaurant of mine, "In God we trust, rest pay money"

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Reply #29 on: February 20, 2020, 05:40:02 PM
Great policy.  I am always surprised how many people run their finger onto knife edges.  I'm sure its a reasonable question but I'm also surprised when someone asks "Is it sharp?".  I wonder how many knives they've come across that aren't?  Or if its more rhetorical?  I've got out the practice of handing a knife to most everyone. 

I guess the things I can share are from the fleamarket sellers. 

Most sellers believe that an old knife is a rare knife and thus very expensive.  Most sellers believe that a Buck 110 with darn near toothpick blade made in the 80s is worth top dollar because its age and it's a Buck. 

I bought my PAL36 for a fraction of what some sellers ask.  Yes I know some can command a price but not garbage.  I had one seller tell me his PAL36 was worth 200 but for me 100 because its rarity.  The knife was a hot mess with broken blade and guard with pretty much no more stacked leather handle.  I told him I had one in much better condition so no thank you.  He replied "I doubt it as these were knives used in the war". 

I love seeing Case knives at the fleamarket.  The sellers ALWAYS ask top dollar.  It doesn't matter if the blades are all broken and dont have any covers.  Their responses are always "Its a Case knife MADE IN MURICA".  Ok boss, thank you, it doesn't have a blade?  They respond with "It's rare and you'll never find one again".  Ok boss, thank you but I want to be able to use it.  No blade, no good to me. 

The stories the sellers tell are so funny.  Most know me by now so they don't tell me much.  There's one old guy who is a trip to deal with.  His wares are military items new and old.  He has some tools and a few knives from time to time.  Bought my Flexcut from him as he was so insistent it was garbage.  He was more interested in his broken Case knives.  I asked how much and he said give me 12 for it.  I handed him a 10 and a 5 and walked away. 

He was insistent that his Japanese PST was a fake.  I also bought it off him for 2 dollars.           
 
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