only two, a minimalism exercise

[Scorpion Regent]

I'm sure it has been done before, but maybe not lately and priorities change so I'm asking a basic question.  If you are stuck in a situation with only two tools what would they be.  This is not a desert island you might only be limited for a day or a week or two.  Please explain and defend your choices, if you do it to the death can I get your stuff after the funeral?  The tools can be a conventional MT's, SAK's, or something else.  Your choices have to be versatile.  A single blade knife won't cut it.  (I did a funny)   

I can not emphasized this next point too strongly.  Only tell me about two tools. I started a similar thread and every one talked about their second and third choices and what else they would have.  If you can't play by the rules find another game. 
You are welcome to talk about how you could use your choices in combination with mundane items to make them more useful, (MacGyvering).  A paper  clip is a mundane item, so are rubber bands, string and wire.  As long as it is relatively generic it is fair game.  Anything that is made by a specific company, has a brand name, a model, a part number and the like is not allowed.  If you are unsure if something is "mundane" just ask. 
You are also allowed to have modified versions of your tools conditional that the modifications are realistic, no depleted uranium or adamantium.  The modifications have to all ready be in place or be done using one or both of the two tools only.   It has come to a point that there are so many MT options that if you bought enough of a similar type you could strip them all down to parts and make a single perfect personalized tool.  If you want one to be that Frankentool then knock yourself out.  You can even have Bride of Frankentool.  Just once they are built there are no spare parts lying around to switch out later. 

So I am dying to hear your choices.  Please share.

[smiller43147]

I'm surprised that no one has replied yet.  I'll play.


First I would pick my LM Wave.  Would I be allowed to include the two cards of flat bits and call it one tool?  How about my Vic Spirit with ratchet and bit set (I bought them as a set with a sheath)?  Yes or no, a Wave or Spirit would be tool #1.  Why?  Everyone on MTO knows the utility of a multitool.  The Wave and Spirit are two that I already own and have experience with.  And, IMHO, are two of the best made MTs with great tool loads.


The one thing that MT/SAKs don't handle well is nuts and bolts.  So my choice of second tool, the humble adjustable wrench.  It handles the one common need (wrench) that MTs don't.  I know, there have been a few multis with adjustable wrench, but I have no personal experience with any of them.


Let's hear from others!

[Alan K.]

This is MTO where some change their knives and or multitools more often than their underwear.  So, if I have to dance with the ones I brought I'm going to stick with the Victorinox Spirit tool and Swiss Champ.  Outside of monthly challenges I've carried this combo for most of the last 2 or 3 years.  They fit together in a leather scabbard in my back pocket comfortably and balance the wallet in my other back pocket nicely.  These multitools both have a good assortment of implements that cover pretty much any contingency.  There's nothing else out there that has this tool assortment from a magnifying glass to a chisel / scraper.  You said this isn't a deserted island scenario, but part of my criteria for choosing my tools is can I start a fire and open a coconut.  These two will do that and more.

[smiller43147]

They fit together in a leather scabbard in my back pocket comfortably and balance the wallet in my other back pocket nicely.

That must be one heck of a wallet!

[Aloha]

I'd go with a Surge for starters.  Its about as versatile as it gets.  As for a second tool  .   

[Rich_SD]

It really depends on the situation.  Am I out camping?  On a road trip?  Somewhere working on a project?

If it's just a generic "what if", I'll go with 2 Surges (with full kit of saw, bits, and bit extenders).

[Scorpion Regent]

I'm surprised that no one has replied yet.  I'll play.


First I would pick my LM Wave.  Would I be allowed to include the two cards of flat bits and call it one tool?  How about my Vic Spirit with ratchet and bit set (I bought them as a set with a sheath)?  Yes or no, a Wave or Spirit would be tool #1.  Why?  Everyone on MTO knows the utility of a multitool.  The Wave and Spirit are two that I already own and have experience with.  And, IMHO, are two of the best made MTs with great tool loads.


The one thing that MT/SAKs don't handle well is nuts and bolts.  So my choice of second tool, the humble adjustable wrench.  It handles the one common need (wrench) that MTs don't.  I know, there have been a few multis with adjustable wrench, but I have no personal experience with any of them.


Let's hear from others!

The way I see it a adjustable wrench is a single purpose tool, not a MT.  I respect the fact that it's useful, but not a real option in this situation.  Any accessories that came with the MT are allowed.  So is your choice the Wave and the Spirit or are you still thinking about it?

[Scorpion Regent]

That must be one heck of a wallet!

I concur.

Maybe I need to check the forum for wallet threads.

[SteveC]

I think a Supertool w/ bit extender and bit cards and a Crunch would be my choice. With that combo I think you could cover most jobs.

[Echotech]

As this is just MT’s I’m assuming you’re allowed knives…if not

Also going with only things I own, so although I’m more likely to carry a rebar or spirit, first choice is my Wave with bit kit

Second has to be a SAK, so back to assuming knives not a problem then it’s Farmer X, if no knives then Outrider

[Antti Lammi]

If there isnt chance to sharpen knives with essential sharpening tool. I would  definetly choose WorkChamp and Charge TTi with full bitset. Workchamp has superior metal saw, Wood saw and bigger blade compared to charge but Charge has bitkits and precious diamond file and better pliers.

i would also considere replacing Charge with CenterDrive but its way too compicated to get diamond file to it and it needs way better cutters to it. Considered also mp600 variants since Gerber tools has better tolerance for dirt before clokking.

But since Gerber doesnt have diamond file i would choose Charge


Only Tools Matters

[ezdog]

I already carry the only MT that I seem to need,why would I carry anything else?

If I carried 2 I think my pants would fall down.

[trichosirius]

Since I don’t know what the situation is I suppose I should be prepared for any possible scenario. For me, this means Leatherman Wave and Knipex pliers wrench.
The Wave has already proven itself for 10 years on my belt in the woods and in everyday life, and really it’s the only tool I need. the Knipex would be in case the situation involves machinery or car trouble, and pretty much cover everything the Leatherman pliers can’t.

My runners-up would be a SwissChamp and a roll of duct tape 

[Rich_SD]

My runners-up would be a SwissChamp and a roll of duct tape 

This gave me a good idea, so I'm changing my picks.

My first tool is a homemade mallet I created by duct taping all of my knives and multitools to an axe handle.  For my second tool, a complete socket set duct taped to a claw hammer. 

[Scorpion Regent]

As this is just MT’s I’m assuming you’re allowed knives…if not

Also going with only things I own, so although I’m more likely to carry a rebar or spirit, first choice is my Wave with bit kit

Second has to be a SAK, so back to assuming knives not a problem then it’s Farmer X, if no knives then Outrider

A SAK is the very definition of MT, because it has multiple tools. 
I don't care if you own it or not, if you do that's your choice, either way you don't need to tell me that.  You mentioned 5 tools.  The task is to present two and only two so I don't see a acceptable answer.  I want to know why you chose two tools, not what tools you didn't. 

[Scorpion Regent]

If there isnt chance to sharpen knives with essential sharpening tool. I would  definetly choose WorkChamp and Charge TTi with full bitset. Workchamp has superior metal saw, Wood saw and bigger blade compared to charge but Charge has bitkits and precious diamond file and better pliers.

i would also considere replacing Charge with CenterDrive but its way too compicated to get diamond file to it and it needs way better cutters to it. Considered also mp600 variants since Gerber tools has better tolerance for dirt before clokking.

But since Gerber doesnt have diamond file i would choose Charge


Only Tools Matters

You mentioned four tools.  The rules state only two.

[Scorpion Regent]

I already carry the only MT that I seem to need,why would I carry anything else?

If I carried 2 I think my pants would fall down.

There is a way that you can have two and keep your dignity.  It's a tricky one, almost a riddle.  Think about it.  Let me know if you want a hint.

[Scorpion Regent]

This gave me a good idea, so I'm changing my picks.

My first tool is a homemade mallet I created by duct taping all of my knives and multitools to an axe handle.  For my second tool, a complete socket set duct taped to a claw hammer. 

Well aren't we creative?  I think we have our class clown. 

[GearedForwards]

Are you calling a flashlight a tool for the purposes of this exercise?

And perhaps instead of being so strict about only mentioning two, ask people to bold or make clear their final choices? A lot of people like to put down their thought process.

[Aloha]

Ok so as for now I don't have a second tool.  As for my first choice, since you say we can use the bit cards I'd also use my bit extender if thats allowed.  Truth is I don't require either with the Surge because I can use any 1/4 bits by making a extender. 

The Surge for me is the most versatile MT.  With the ability to use a variety of saw blades there is not much I cannot but.  If I wear out a saw blade, no problem.  I've even used a blade that was pretty long for things that needed more reach. 

Being able to use/make na extender to accept 1/4 inch bits further opens this tools capability.  I can make one that has reach or as I've done make a ratcheting one then use sockets.  Now the torque applied wont be substantial but within reason its a nice ability.  I've even used my Surge as a hammer  .  Now lets be fair, I wasn't driving 3 inch nails.

If I was limited to 2 tools this one tool sure stands out to me.  Talk about the ultimate in MacGyver opportunities. 

[Aloha]

Are you calling a flashlight a tool for the purposes of this exercise?

And perhaps instead of being so strict about only mentioning two, ask people to bold or make clear their final choices? A lot of people like to put down their thought process.

   Everyone has their process thats for sure.   

[Aloha]

Just to be clear.  The Surge is my choice.  There is no need for having the other items in the picture since I can find/borrow them?

I've made several bit extenders over time and even made a ratcheting one.  As for LM flat bits, they are very nice but once the bit extender is made or bought any 1/4 inch bits work just as well. 

[kirk13]

When I was packing up to move back to Northern Ireland,  I had to pack everything I was keeping for transit. At that point I kept my Spirit and one of my Swisschamps. Between them they covered all my needs.

If I were to face a similar scenario today, I'd still go with the Spirit. I may pick one of the Victorinox ratchet sets over a SAK as the second item ...no, no I'd take my Vic Tinke...Sparta...damn it! Ok Vic PX, yeah, Pioneer X

[Rich_SD]

Well aren't we creative?  I think we have our class clown.

You know the saying - Ask a silly question... 

[Scorpion Regent]

Ok so as for now I don't have a second tool.  As for my first choice, since you say we can use the bit cards I'd also use my bit extender if thats allowed.  Truth is I don't require either with the Surge because I can use any 1/4 bits by making a extender. 

The Surge for me is the most versatile MT.  With the ability to use a variety of saw blades there is not much I cannot but.  If I wear out a saw blade, no problem.  I've even used a blade that was pretty long for things that needed more reach. 

Being able to use/make na extender to accept 1/4 inch bits further opens this tools capability.  I can make one that has reach or as I've done make a ratcheting one then use sockets.  Now the torque applied wont be substantial but within reason its a nice ability.  I've even used my Surge as a hammer  .  Now lets be fair, I wasn't driving 3 inch nails.

If I was limited to 2 tools this one tool sure stands out to me.  Talk about the ultimate in MacGyver opportunities.

That's the sort of answer I am looking for.  Thanks

[Scorpion Regent]

When I was packing up to move back to Northern Ireland,  I had to pack everything I was keeping for transit. At that point I kept my Spirit and one of my Swisschamps. Between them they covered all my needs.

If I were to face a similar scenario today, I'd still go with the Spirit. I may pick one of the Victorinox ratchet sets over a SAK as the second item ...no, no I'd take my Vic Tinke...Sparta...damn it! Ok Vic PX, yeah, Pioneer X

If you left out the second paragraph you would have aced it.  I figure I got my answer.

[Scorpion Regent]

You know the saying - Ask a silly question... 

  We are all entitled to a little fun.

[Scorpion Regent]

Are you calling a flashlight a tool for the purposes of this exercise?

And perhaps instead of being so strict about only mentioning two, ask people to bold or make clear their final choices? A lot of people like to put down their thought process.

I tried posting a response to this before and the internet monster ate it.  Okay trying again. 
You are entitled to a thinking process.  I'm just not interested in the process of elimination.  If you want to talk about individual tool choices you would liked to have had I can allow that.  By individual tool choices I mean things like a saw or a magnifying glass.  I had hoped by allowing modded MT's would head off that issue. Talking about other MT's is considered waffling and that is why I only want to hear your final two.   You are completely free and encouraged to comment on other peoples choices without any limits.   For example, you can tell someone that their choices are or were considered. 
A flashlight is a single purpose tool so it doesn't enter into the equation.  I am seeing a lot of questions regarding single purpose tools. 

Let me clarify something.  I am only asking what two MT's you would choose to carry with you.  You aren't trapped on a desert island.  You can in theory go around the corner get a tool out of a tool box.  Just bear in mind that your first option is to reach to your belt, pocket, bag, whatever and use the MT's you have chosen. 

Okay I think I started a tool box thread a long time ago, but as a pressure valve this might help.
         NEW RULE!  What's in your tool box?   You can list the contents of a small tool box/bag.  I imagine there will be pliers and adjustable wrenches, and flashlights.  I'm curious to see what else you might have.  The only thing you can't have in the tool box is MT's.  You also have to be able to carry this tool box with one hand.  If you aren't sure if it is a MT, ask.   Go crazy guys.

[GearedForwards]

I tried posting a response to this before and the internet monster ate it.  Okay trying again.  You are entitled to a thinking process.  I'm just not interested in the process of elimination.  If you want to talk about individual tool choices you would liked to have had I can allow that.  I had hoped by allowing modded MT's would head off that issue. Talking about other MT's is considered waffling and that is why I only want to hear your final two.   You are completely free and encouraged to comment on other peoples choices without limit restraint.   

A flashlight is a single purpose tool so it doesn't enter into the equation.  I am seeing a lot of questions regarding single purpose tools.  I am only asking what two MT's you would choose to carry with you.  You aren't trapped on a desert island.  You can in theory go around the corner get a tool out of a tool box.  Just bear in mind that your first option is to reach to your belt, pocket, bag, whatever and use the MT's you have chosen. 

Okay I think I started a tool box thread a long time ago, but as a pressure valve this might help.
         NEW RULE!  What's in your tool box?   You can list the contents of a small tool box/bag.  I imagine there will be pliers and adjustable wrenches, and flashlights.  I'm curious to see what else you might have.  The only thing you can't have in the tool box is MT's.  If you aren't sure if it is a MT, ask.

Well, my answer would be Wave+ with bit kit and bit extension, along with an Explorer with plus scales.

That will be my last contribution to this thread, I think you misunderstand the spirit of a forum discussion and would have been better off making a poll.

[Rich_SD]

Wait, I change my picks again - a claw hammer and a flame thrower!  Note that a flamethrower can be classified as a multitool because you can open a bottle with the nozzle.