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Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge

us Offline powernoodle

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Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
on: February 01, 2025, 07:17:29 PM
Inspired by Crunchie64's thread seeking input on a possible future ARC Challenge, and being desirous of getting on with it in February due to a lack of impulse control, I decided to venture forth and do a (probably/maybe) solo 30 day ARC/P4 Challenge.  There is no ARC badge, and this thread won't create one, but I will have the Challenge in the bank when a badge is created some day.

I encourage everyone so interested to follow Crunchie's thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,93559.0.html) to participate in the real ARC Challenge at some point in the future when it coagulates.  That should be a glorious Challenge with plenty of participants.  Thank you Crunch for the inspiration.  So follow that thread and join in with C-Dog.   :cheers:

But for now, I am venturing forth just for the fun of it.  Anyone is welcomed to join in of course, and you can start your own Day 1 if it doesn't match with the calendar.  But I am not asking for nor expecting other participants, though one member has expressed an interest.  So off we go . . .

Powernoodle Day 1





In the past I have had pretty good vibes about the P4, and mixed vibes leaning toward grumpy vibes about the ARC.  The P4 is a solid performer.  I'm not a huge fan of the magnetic deployment, but can live just fine with it.  There is certainly a serious serving of design excellence and awesome engineering going on there.  What made me grumpy about the ARC is the price.  Not that long ago - though it has been several years actually - I was paying $29.99 for a Leatherman MT (Blast, Fuse, etc.).  For me, those were the glory days of Leatherman MTs.  They were affordable and they were awesome.  At 10x the price, a $229.99 ARC is no longer affordable, nor even moderately-priced.  And just as Spyderco and Benchmade prices have ballooned far in excess of inflation, Leatherman seems to be undergoing a paradigm shift on pricing in concert with Tim Leatherman's diminished role in the company.  Powernoodle does not care for this.  And then there is the Obsidian ARC, and probably future ARC colorations to follow at even more inflated MSRPs.

I have largely gotten over my grief on the ARC pricing, but there is still a little bit of stink there in my memory cone.  I refused to buy a new ARC and got a like-new example off the secondary market.  That being said, the ARC is the flagship model of the flagship MT company, and any serious MT freakazoid has to have one or seven of them.

The P4 seems to be teetering on the edge of being discontinued.  This would be understandable from a business perspective, of course, as the ARC is really a P4 with lipstick.  You can no longer buy a P4 on the Leatherman website, nor at any vendor other than the Leatherman store on Amazon.  When I got a whiff that the P4 could be discontinued, I bought 3 or 4 of them to keep them NIB for a rainy day.  I get a real sick feeling when a Leatherman disappears forever and I don't have at least a few of them NIB in the Special Reserve Collection.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #1 on: February 01, 2025, 07:21:51 PM
This is going to be fun!   :ahhh :ahhh
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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #2 on: February 01, 2025, 07:30:54 PM
I have greatest respect for commenting on MTs and will monitor your thread. 
A ARC or FREE series models never caught my eye.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #3 on: February 01, 2025, 08:01:13 PM
I will enjoy following. I'm committed to the Modular Tool Challenge in February, or I would join you.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #4 on: February 01, 2025, 09:17:44 PM
Fantastic!

Glad to have inspired you, and I’ll certainly be following closely.

I won’t join in, as I’m on holiday for the next week with only my P2 (and the Surge kit and Raptor that live in the car, of course. And maybe an Opinel or two..)


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #5 on: February 01, 2025, 10:03:13 PM
Day 1



I am joining powernoodle in carrying one of the Free series Multitools for the month. It was also an excuse to pick up the Arc, which I just did this morning. I was also reluctant to pick up the Arc due to the price. I daily carry a pocket knife in addition to a Multitool, so I find a blade steel better than 420HC redundant.
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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #6 on: February 01, 2025, 10:57:55 PM
Col. Crunchie, I will post in your Challenge thread when the time comes.   :cheers:

Happy to see you here, E!   :tu:

Thanks Barry and LC.  :salute:


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #7 on: February 02, 2025, 12:35:28 AM
I will enjoy following. I'm committed to the Modular Tool Challenge in February, or I would join you.

I almost queried whether a Surge was modular enough for that challenge with its t-shank adapter, but then decided that it didn't really fit the spirit of the challenge.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #8 on: February 02, 2025, 03:21:02 AM
I almost queried whether a Surge was modular enough for that challenge with its t-shank adapter, but then decided that it didn't really fit the spirit of the challenge.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #9 on: February 02, 2025, 05:13:22 AM
 :woohoo: Can't wait to follow along :woohoo:

I may even post a pic or two during the month just to fit in with the cool kids :dd: :D

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #10 on: February 02, 2025, 06:33:48 AM
I've got a nib arc obsidian I haven't opened. I can't accept the price tag. My brother grabbed 2 more thinking I needed one before he knew i was sitting on one unopened... So in theory I have 2. I'm running out of time on the return window. But I've happily carried a P2 (so I like the Free technology). until recently switching back to a Charge Ti. For now the seals remain uncut on the obsidian(s). I think I'd love the arc since I love the P2. I just couldn't stomach the lack of bit holder on my P2 thus the switch to Ti. What we really need is a P1 which is a P2 with bit holder, full file, saw, anf lose the serrated blade and go with a P4 420 blade. Maybe it's a P3.  Cut the cost to $179 and sell a butt load. It's a win for LM and those of us who buy tools to use.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #11 on: February 02, 2025, 11:44:23 AM
I've got a nib arc obsidian I haven't opened. I can't accept the price tag. My brother grabbed 2 more thinking I needed one before he knew i was sitting on one unopened... So in theory I have 2. I'm running out of time on the return window. But I've happily carried a P2 (so I like the Free technology). until recently switching back to a Charge Ti. For now the seals remain uncut on the obsidian(s). I think I'd love the arc since I love the P2. I just couldn't stomach the lack of bit holder on my P2 thus the switch to Ti. What we really need is a P1 which is a P2 with bit holder, full file, saw, anf lose the serrated blade and go with a P4 420 blade. Maybe it's a P3.  Cut the cost to $179 and sell a butt load. It's a win for LM and those of us who buy tools to use.

Life’s too short - open the box and use that Arc!

If you like the P2, but miss the bit holder you really will love the Arc.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #12 on: February 02, 2025, 01:16:42 PM
Life’s too short - open the box and use that Arc!

If you like the P2, but miss the bit holder you really will love the Arc.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #13 on: February 02, 2025, 01:19:18 PM
Powernoodle Day 2


Many people like the bit adapter.  I prefer a real, long shank 3D phillips.  In lieu of that, I'll take a long 2D phillips.  I prefer the reach over the ability to change bits.  I don't think I have ever used a torx bit or other specialty bit with an MT, but people in certain trades might find those more useful.  So, for me at least, this is a small win for the P4 over the ARC.


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Reply #14 on: February 02, 2025, 01:23:03 PM
I may even post a pic or two during the month just to fit in with the cool kids :dd: :D

Do it.  Be cool.   :pok:   :cheers:


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #15 on: February 02, 2025, 01:40:56 PM
Anyone is welcomed to post random ARC/P4/P2 pics.   :tu:


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #16 on: February 02, 2025, 02:49:17 PM
Powernoodle Day 2

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Many people like the bit adapter.  I prefer a real, long shank 3D phillips.  In lieu of that, I'll take a long 2D phillips.  I prefer the reach over the ability to change bits.  I don't think I have ever used a torx bit or other specialty bit with an MT, but people in certain trades might find those more useful.  So, for me at least, this is a small win for the P4 over the ARC.

 I find the steel on the flat head and ling 2D Phillips is too soft. With any real use mine slightly rounded over on the P2.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #17 on: February 02, 2025, 04:08:45 PM
Good point (<< pun) . I always grab a "real" screwdriver when I can.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #18 on: February 03, 2025, 01:22:08 AM
Day 2



Carried the Arc with me today. No real use outside of pulling a couple of pictures hooks. I am still in the process of redoing sections of the house that haven’t been updated or touched in the past decade. Today, I ripped out the window trim in the kitchen and the dining room. Just need to finish sanding the putty tomorrow and the caulk it. Then it should be ready to paint on Tuesday. While I still had tools out, I did a few quick drywall repairs. Those will get sanded out tomorrow when I do the window trim.

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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #19 on: February 03, 2025, 02:57:34 AM
Excellent Day 2 pics :drool: :like: :like:


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Reply #20 on: February 03, 2025, 04:12:12 AM
 :iagree:
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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #21 on: February 03, 2025, 02:10:13 PM
Powernoodle Day 3


Mrs. Powernoodle and I are in the process of moving our residence, which means that I am deconstructing a ton of cardboard boxes.  I EDC a box cutter, and always use it on cardboard because there nothing better than a new utility blade for killing a box.  In comparison, and as one would expect, the ARC was fairly lame as a cardboard slicer.  The ARC's saber grind (with an unground portion near the spine) with DLC coating is grabby on cardboard, and doesn't want to slide through like a full flat grind.  But the ARC's  grind is also a little stronger than a full flat grind, and is more aimed at being a general-use blade than a slicer.  I am constantly reminded that MTs are almost never the best at a specific task, but excel at convenience. 


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Reply #23 on: February 03, 2025, 02:36:55 PM
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Reply #24 on: February 03, 2025, 02:50:27 PM
Good luck with the move PN!  It's hard to beat a box cutter with a fresh blade.
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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #25 on: February 03, 2025, 03:26:25 PM
Good luck with the move PN!

Thanks.  It is a daunting task to go through 31 years of stuff that comes in to a house and never leaves, but also an opportunity to go semi-minimalist during the move.


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #26 on: February 03, 2025, 03:29:15 PM
I can't imagine moving again :ahhh we have been at our current residence for close to 20 years now and we did have some water damage over a decade ago that made it similar to a move (we had to get everything out of the house and get repairs and then move everything back) and that was bad enough  :facepalm:

Good luck in the move and great pic as always :woohoo: :like: :like:


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Re: Powernoodle's spontaneous ARC/P4 Challenge
Reply #27 on: February 03, 2025, 03:54:23 PM
Powernoodle Day 3

Mrs. Powernoodle and I are in the process of moving our residence, which means that I am deconstructing a ton of cardboard boxes.  I EDC a box cutter, and always use it on cardboard because there nothing better than a new utility blade for killing a box.  In comparison, and as one would expect, the ARC was fairly lame as a cardboard slicer.  The ARC's saber grind (with an unground portion near the spine) with DLC coating is grabby on cardboard, and doesn't want to slide through like a full flat grind.  But the ARC's  grind is also a little stronger than a full flat grind, and is more aimed at being a general-use blade than a slicer.  I am constantly reminded that MTs are almost never the best at a specific task, but excel at convenience.  [/i]


Good luck with your move. Happy you got it all sorted out!

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Reply #28 on: February 03, 2025, 05:12:34 PM
Day 3



Office carry for me today. Went with a Never Summer Native 5 from Spyderco and the Free P4 today.

JonesE


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Reply #29 on: February 03, 2025, 05:14:49 PM
Great use of the blade on our Arc today PN!  :like:

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