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The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread

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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #61 on: July 29, 2020, 01:32:32 PM
I've never seen that before! :like:

It's gotten suprisingly little press.  I can only find one review on it (on the Amazon site) and they give it 1/5 stars because apparently the liner lock is poorly designed (the tool next to the liner lock stands out higher than the lock itself so you can't reach it). 

It looks cool though.  I am a fan of the Camillus claw can opener (for nostalgic reasons) so its a bit of a bummer that they use the quarter circle - but I suppose adding the small SD is worth it. 


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #62 on: August 01, 2020, 06:46:56 PM
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #63 on: August 02, 2020, 12:19:19 AM
That's pretty cool. Though I'm partial to a beer and beans knife myself... Gotta have a can opener. 

I used to know a guy that had spent time in Europe, and had gotten into the habit of using tinned fish.  Who knows where he would find so many varieties of tinned herring, sardines, mackerel etc.  He'd bring them to work for lunch and drive everyone in the break room crazy.   Fortunately he had a SAK with a slot in the Phillips to help open those up. Just a random memory....


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #64 on: August 24, 2020, 05:57:41 PM
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #65 on: September 19, 2020, 02:55:20 PM
Well it looks like the Leatherman Crater lineup is being discontinued. Meanwhile, the Free series knife based tools like the T2 haven't really been all that impressive.  I'm really curious to see what they come up with in the future.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #66 on: September 26, 2020, 05:17:11 PM
Does this count?

It has a bottle opener built in.
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #67 on: September 27, 2020, 10:49:12 PM
This topic has been called "knife based multitools" but honestly I'm really confused what the definition is..seems like its getting mixed up with pocket knives etc.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #68 on: September 28, 2020, 10:52:54 AM
something that is mainly a knife/dominated by a knife that also has other tools.
Can be a Sanrenmu 763, a knife with a bottle opener or a Victorinox Camper etc., a knife with several other tools included
The multi part means more than one tool, dedicated function. A two blade folding knife will not be a multitool, based on the many discussions had previously here
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #69 on: September 29, 2020, 01:23:02 AM
This topic has been called "knife based multitools" but honestly I'm really confused what the definition is..seems like its getting mixed up with pocket knives etc.

It's been hotly debated on other threads.  But suffice it to say that...

- the handle is that of a knife, not pliers (or a hammer or wrench)
- the knife blade is the base of the tool as well... it runs the whole length of the handle (the aforementioned knife handle).  A knife that can stand on its own as a folding knife
- it is a multitool... it has multiple tools .... a pocketknife such as a Trapper or a Canoe doesn't count

A 91mm SAK doesn't count... But a 111mm or a 130mm SAK does.   :think:
My (somewhat half heartedly submitted) Skeletool KBX might count as it has a bottle opener on it... but frankly it's not the point.  A curious pocketknife combined with the occasional comb or bottle opener isn't going to derail the thread from the real focus. 

The focus of the thread is ... in a sense.... is.... most of the tools that have been pictured.  We can't always define it, but we know one when we see one.  They're out there. 


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #70 on: September 29, 2020, 01:04:17 PM
why the rejection of the 91mm?
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #71 on: September 29, 2020, 01:26:30 PM
why the rejection of the 91mm?

Just my gestalt of what a knife based MT is.  On a 91mm, the handle isn't categorially that of the knife, and any tool is as central to the device as any other - it may as well be an opener layer based MT, or a metal file based MT, or a saw based MT for that matter.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #72 on: September 29, 2020, 01:31:01 PM
It is knife dominated, what with being called a swiss army knife.

We also had the screwdriver based multitool discussion a few years ago, Gerber centerdrive
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #73 on: September 30, 2020, 12:56:48 AM
It is knife dominated, what with being called a swiss army knife.

We also had the screwdriver based multitool discussion a few years ago, Gerber centerdrive

Fair enough.  I just draw the line a bit farther along in my head when I'm looking for someting that is "knife based" - either when I want something with a more substantial knife, or just the usual day-to-day when my PioneerX  or Compact is as much a scissors based tool as it is a knife based tool.  I realize I'm being somewhat arbitrary.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #74 on: September 30, 2020, 09:30:44 AM
It is hard enough to define a multitool, let alone to define knife and pliers etc based categories. A LM skeletool has pliers and also a big blade, same with the SOG powerduo, so which one wins, the knife or the pliers?....
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #75 on: October 01, 2020, 02:36:05 AM
Ok lets simplify (for my own good)

- OHO locking knife (seems consistent)
- Knife handle shape and format
- Additional tools included besides the blade.

sound about right?

In that case how about these:






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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #76 on: October 01, 2020, 02:39:57 AM
Ok lets simplify (for my own good)

- OHO locking knife (seems consistent)
- Knife handle shape and format
- Additional tools included besides the blade.

sound about right?

In that case how about these:

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Sounds about right ... im unsure that the first one is a knife or a box cutter.  The second and third definitely fit the bill.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #77 on: October 02, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Knife based, but dominated by the comb....
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #78 on: October 02, 2020, 11:49:09 PM
Knife based, but dominated by the comb....

there it is in the flesh!


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #79 on: October 03, 2020, 01:41:52 AM
Sounds about right ... im unsure that the first one is a knife or a box cutter.  The second and third definitely fit the bill.

Lol, last time I checked a utility blade is still a knife..and in many cased you can do more with it than I can with a SAK blade (both because of shape and the fact that you don't care about hitting the edge on hard surfaces)


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #80 on: October 05, 2020, 01:36:57 AM
Knife based, but dominated by the comb....

Comb-based? :think:
Comb-ination tool! :tu:


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #81 on: January 24, 2021, 06:20:26 AM
Here is a selection of my knife-based plier tools.

If there are any you all want some details on please lmk and I’ll take a few pics and describe them.

My favorites for actual use are the modified CRKT bivy and the outu with the switchblade pliers (right above the red minigrip). Well, and the tire repair tool in the upper right hand corner. Definitely not an edc but supremely useful when needed.

Charles.

What is the little red Wenger tool on the bottom right?  and how strong are the pliers on it?  They look like they are always deployed, they don't fold up do they?


I have one of the Outu tool that was in the picture that ChopperCharles shared.  I like the tool set but it feels cheap to me.  I have never really carried it much because the blade doesn't really open or close very well with one hand.  I have been thinking about buying one of the similar Buck tools.  I know there is the 731 and the 732.  I saw a video with a 735 which doesn't appear to have any pliers on it.  Does anyone know how many of these sort of tools Buck made?  I cant find a website anywhere that has a proper list of their discontinued items.  I am leaning towards a Buck X-tract 732 but I was hoping to make sure there wasn't another model that I would like better.
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #82 on: January 30, 2021, 12:43:38 AM


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #83 on: February 11, 2021, 03:41:44 AM
I just got this one today!  Swiss+Tech 13-in-1 Multi Tool Knife.

(others in picture are for size comparison)

I wrote more details about it in the "cheap and cheerful" section. 
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86640.0.html

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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #84 on: February 11, 2021, 01:45:38 PM
I just got this one today!  Swiss+Tech 13-in-1 Multi Tool Knife.

(others in picture are for size comparison)

I wrote more details about it in the "cheap and cheerful" section. 
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86640.0.html

 :like:   It's good to have options!


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #85 on: February 11, 2021, 01:47:36 PM
Gerber Armbar Slim Drive.
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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #87 on: February 26, 2021, 02:14:05 PM
If the quality of the biviy wasn't so ....poop, I think it's got a solid toolset and form factor. The quality kills it.


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #88 on: February 26, 2021, 03:55:14 PM
I remember the Bivy being decent. Wasn't it ok? :think:


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Re: The Comprehensive Knife Based Multitool Thread
Reply #89 on: February 27, 2021, 12:38:29 AM
I just got this one today!  Swiss+Tech 13-in-1 Multi Tool Knife.

(others in picture are for size comparison)

I wrote more details about it in the "cheap and cheerful" section. 
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86640.0.html

I like the Leatherman KBX.  if only it had some attachment that could work as a rudimentary screwdriver, I'd REALLY like it. 

I've been fidgeting with it more lately, and it's piqued my interest in this genre of multitools again.
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