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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #60 on: February 15, 2022, 02:02:43 AM
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #61 on: February 15, 2022, 02:17:33 AM



Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet

Weight
Ratchet: 55g
Extension: 33g
Set: 190g

Length: 114mm
Extension length: 100mm
Head width: 18mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 28mm (adds 3mm)
Teeth count: 60
Minimum swing arc: 6°
Bit retention: spring detent
Extension bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $40 with 12 bits and extension
Bits: Torx 10/20/25/30, Phillips 1, Allen 2/2.5/3/4/5/6/8

Accessories
The Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet comes with twelve Chrome-Vanadium standard 1/4" bits, a long extension, and a nylon wallet to carry everything.
There are elasticated loops for everything. The wallet is single-stitched, with a double-stitched belt-loop. There is also a 65mm x 100mm flat pocket for additional items. The wallet has velcro closure. The wallet is a simple folding one, and bits may slip out of their loops and fall out of the wallet is shaken hard enough.



Dimensions
This is the longest edc ratchet so far. At 55g, it is still lightweight enough for an edc pouch, although to utilize the T-handle special feature, the extension will also be necessary, and this is another 33g. Not the best option for lightweight back-packing, but quite capable. At 18mm, the head is still among the narrowest available, and helps keep the ratchet quite compact.



Teeth Count
The Prestacycle has 60 teeth. Quite high for such a narrow head, this allows a minimum arc swing of six degrees. This is almost as good as it gets with these small ratchets.

Bit Retention
The ratcheting end has a spring, which provides a firm detent on bits even for bits without retention notches.
The in-line driver socket and the extension have magnets. These are way too strong for short bits to be removed with fingers.



Bit compatibility
The ratchet head can be used with double ended bits, be they Leatherman or standard. Thanks to the ratcheting head being almost a pass-though one, pretty much every sort of double ended bit will work. Leatherman bits can be inserted so that the spring engages the side-notches, but can be pushed through if pressing hard enough. They can be inserted so that the small tooth marked with the red dot can prevent them from being pushed through, but the retention spring will not be engaging, so they will fall out from the front.
Stubby bits are easy enough to remove, thanks to the hole in the head. Push from the back to get the bit started.
Bits and extensions with a grooved neck will have a lot of play, although they will not fall out and can still be used.

The in-line driver and extension have strong magnets and are somewhat deep, so stubby bits cannot be removed with just fingers.
Leatherman bits can be kind of used, but they barely engage and will have too much play left and right.
Standard double-ended bits cannot be used for in-line driving or the extension. They do not engage and cannot be turned with the tool.



Switch action
The switch is quite small and has a strong detent. It cannot be operated with a fingertip, and will require a fingernail. The switch sits flat against the body, and does not protrude in any way.

Ease of use
The Prestacycle can exert a great amount of torque thanks to its length. It is easy to grip for people with large hands, as some edc ratchets can be a little too compact.
There is a knurled finger wheel, to quickly turn loose fasteners that do not have enough drag for the ratchet.
The in-line driver is also quite handy.
Thanks to the almost pass-through head, any double-ended bit can be used with the tool.

Examining the ratchet head hole and the extension a little closer reveals the namesake of this ratchet. The hole is a 1/4" hex, that has a single tooth in one corner, which is marked with a red dot on either side of the ratchet head. This corresponds with the seven-sided extension rod. The edge that matches the dotted corner is marked with a step and a dotted line. Assembling the T configuration employs the same principle as the shape sorter toy. The extension only fits through the ratchet in one orientation. Any other position, and the extension will just sit in the ratchet like any other extension in any other ratchet.

This does mean that only one corner of the ratcheting head pushes against a bit, so this should be taken into account when bearing down on a fastener.

The T-Handle configuration provides far more torque than the ratchet head could, and safely so. If that much torque were to be applied on the ratchet  head itself, the teeth might get damaged.
As this ratchet's head is wider than the typical compact bit ratchet, with a stem to match, this ratchet is among the strongest of this design, able to withstand greater abuse. Do not be a hero, though. It is still a small ratchet, designed for the bicycle community.

Construction Quality
The Prestacycle is a high quality tool. The fit and finish is immaculate. The magnets are perfectly centered. The polished finish is crisp and consistent. Everything is nicely chamfered. The ratchet mechanism works flawlessly. The T-handle feature works beautifully and is very easy to configure. All bit sockets are funneled to aid bit insertion. The extension has retention notches at the tip, and in the middle, for the T-handle configuration.

Portability
The Prestacycle is still a thin and narrow design, but a little long. It will fit nicely in an edc pouch along with the extension. It could be persuaded to fit in the side-sleeve of a multi-tool pouch with the extension, but this will not be perfect. The larger than average opening in the back of the head allows for larger carabiners than other compact ratchets. It will still fit into a pen sleeve.



Value
The Prestacycle ratchet with the extension and nothing else is $30. This is a little steep, but it is still a decent deal, considering everything the ratchet has to offer. The soft case set, which consists of the above wallet and twelve bits is $40, which is quite good, and the hard case set is $50. There are enough options to choose from, should you decide to get this.

Conclusion
The Prestacycle is a contender for the best compact bit ratchet. It is nicely made, with a high teeth count, the ability to convert it into a fixed T-handle driver, a good assortment of bits, and a carry case if you need one.

The most impressive thing of this ratchet is the lack of negative qualities, especially compared to other ratchets we have seen. The issue of the soft case not holding the bits perfectly securely can be solved by getting just the ratchet and extension, or using another case, or getting the hard case. Chrome Vanadium is not a premium bit material, but they do the job. If it is not up to your standards, you could get just the ratchet and extension, and then supplement those with a premium bit set.

The only reason not to get this ratchet would be something very specific, like space limitations, since it is the longest yet. Or if 60 teeth are simply not enough for a very particular application. As it is, this is a phenomenal tool that is simply better than the rest.


Pros
-High quality.
-High number of teeth.
-T-handle configuration allows for additional torque.
-Nigh pass-though head works with all double-ended bits.
-Better grip for people with large hands.
-Many purchase options to choose from.

Cons
-The soft case does not hold bits securely enough.
-Bits are only Chrome Vanadium.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2022, 02:00:53 PM by SteveC »


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #62 on: February 15, 2022, 12:00:07 PM
Really enjoying this thread m'dude  :like: Thanks for all your effort
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #64 on: February 25, 2022, 01:34:34 PM
I've got two more reviews written. I'll find some time to take pictures and post them soon. :cheers:


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #65 on: April 21, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
I've got two more reviews written. I'll find some time to take pictures and post them soon. :cheers:

any updates?  :pok:






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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #66 on: April 21, 2022, 10:53:26 PM
I have five reviews written. Working on pictures now. I apologize for taking such a long break from this. Trying to keep up. But it turns out that I might not need surgery anymore. I'll have one posted today and the rest will follow. :salute:


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #67 on: April 22, 2022, 12:00:26 AM


Topeak Ratchet Rocket Lite
(can also be found branded Granite)
Warranty: 2 years (with original purchaser receipt)
Weight: 29g
Set weight: 161mm
Length: 93mm
Head width: 15mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 25.5mm (adds 0.5mm)
Teeth count: 48
Minimum swing arc: 9.5°
Bit retention: spring detent
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: S2 Steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $31 with 11 bits, two tire levers, extension, nylon case
Bits: Allen 2/2.5/3/4/5/6/8, Phillips 2, Torx 10/15/25

Accessories
The Topeak Ratchet Rocket Lite DX comes with eleven S2 steel standard bits, an extension, two tire levers, and a nylon case to carry it all.
The bits, tire levers, and the extension sit in elasticated loops. The ratchet itself snaps into a plastic holder. There is a flat 40x50mm pocket for additional gear, and a very narrow elasticated loop that can hold something thin. The case has velcro closure. The stitching is single for the sides and double for the top of the belt loop. The belt loop has velcro on one side, to allow adding or removing the case on a belt without needing to take off a belt, and it can also be attached to a bike frame. The belt loop velcro does not overlap 100% when the belt loop rests flat. To get it to overlap completely the belt loop has to be loose.
This case does work, and although the ratchet will not come off its holder, the bits may slip out with enough movement.



Dimensions
The Topeak is absolutely minuscule. Only 93mm long, and with a 15mm wide head. It can fit in any edc pouch and will occupy very little real estate.



Teeth Count
The Topeak has 48 teeth, which equals to a 9.5 degree minimum swing arc. This, combined with the narrow head, allows the ratchet to reach places and turn fasteners other ratchets cannot.

Bit Retention
The ratchet head has a spring. This is very secure and holds bits firmly. It is in fact not easy to pull out bits that have retention notches. However, simply poking the bit from the back, through the hole of the ratchet head, pops the bit out of the spring, and it can then be removed very easily. This is an interesting feature, given that the Giant and PK Tools ratchets share the same head and spring design, but bits cannot be disengaged as easily by poking them from the back.

The in-line driving socket has a magnet that is quite strong, making stubby bits and bits with thin tips a little hard to remove. This is the same size magnet as the PK Tools ratchet. The Giant had a smaller magnet.



Bit compatibility
Stubby bits are not easy to remove from the in-line driving socket.
Standard double-sided bits and Leatherman bits can be used with the ratcheting head, as long as one end is thin enough to clear the hole in the back. Leatherman bits have to be inserted properly, with the spring engaging their retention notches.
Double-sided bits cannot be used in the in-line driver. They do not engage the sides, and thus cannot be turned.
Leatherman bits can be used a little, but they barely engage the sides and have a lot of play left and right.
Bits with the grooved neck do not engage the ratchet spring, so they will have a lot of play back and forth, but they do not fall out.

Bits with a more rounded back sit flush with the ratchet head, allowing the clearance to be whatever the bit length is.



Switch action
The action switch is ribbed, small, and with excellent detent. It does not wobble at all, it does not protrude enough to get caught on anything, and it will not be bumped accidentally, reversing the action by accident. The switch can be operated by just a fingertip, but a fingernail may be necessary, as the detent is quite strong and the switch itself quite small for it to be operated just by skin.

Ease of use
The switch can be operated quite easily with a fingernail; maybe not so easily with just a fingertip.
Stubby bits cannot be removed from the in-line driver easily.
Standard bits can be removed extremely easily, despite the ratchet having a strong spring.
The tool is small, with an extremely narrow head, and excellent head clearance with a bit inserted. The tool is still long enough and strong enough to perform well within the bicycle community.
The in-line driver is a much appreciated feature and works well. It would have been even better if the stem of the driver had some knurling, to provide traction.
The high teeth count and knurled finger wheel make things quick.
Both bit driver sockets are funneled to make bit insertion easier.
The spring keeps the bits in place, and also holds the ratchet mechanism in the head, so this can be disassembled if needed.

Construction Quality
The Topeak is a high quality tool, with excellent fit and finish. Machining, assembly, finish, tolerances, centering, everything is flawless on this. There are no issues with this ratchet. It is very well-made, and it shows.

The bit extension is not branded by Topeak, or anyone else, and it did not look new. There are scratches and dents all over it. This does not affect performance, but it looks rather out of place, next to a brand new and high quality ratchet and bits.



Topeak offers a two-year warranty for their tools. Obtaining warranty service requires the original sales receipt. This is not the best warranty out there. Having the receipt is not always possible, and the warranty is only for two years. Still, this is much more than most ratchets we have seen.

Portability
Sharing first place in the weight department with the PK Tools ratchet, at only 29 grams, the Topeak is microscopic, and will disappear in edc pouches. It will not even be noticeable until needed. Thanks to the thin stem and narrow head, it will sit comfortably in all sorts of pouches, containers, pockets, etc. Nice and streamlined, it is a winner as far as portability goes.



Value
At $31 US, this is a good deal. The ratchet is high quality, the bits are high quality and there are eleven of them, there is a bit extension included, there are two tire levers, and the case is quite good, holding the ratchet securely, and it even has an extra pocket. There are other ratchets of very similar design and dimensions that cost less, but they will not include all that this set does. Of course the two tire levers may be of little use to some, but even then, this ratchet set is worth the investment.


Conclusion
Arguably the most well-known edc ratchet, the Topeak is undoubtedly a big player and already the edc ratchet of many. No surprises here. It is of great quality, absolutely tiny, with a high teeth count considering how narrow the head is, it has a finger wheel, an in-line driving socket, great bit retention, and comes in a nice kit.

The best thing about the Topeak Ratchet Rocket is arguably its reliability. This is not a new tool. It has been around for many years, and it will definitely appear in any search for an edc, bike, compact, etc bit ratchet. It is a proven design, and is often the first recommendation for a compact ratchet kit for cyclists.

It should be obvious that I recommend this. The form factor and quality of these micro ratchets is pretty much the same, so getting this or the PK Tools ratchet, or the Giant ratchet, or the Granite, Liv, Smato, etc, will be a very similar experience. It will come down to price, the set they come in, and of course availability.

As it is, the Topeak is a great buy. You may not need the tire levers, but even then, they are useful on their own, or you could just gift them to a cyclist friend, and use the freed space for something else. The fact that bits can be removed so much more easily compared to ratchets that have the exact same head is also quite neat.


Pros
-Excellent fit and finish.
-Absolutely tiny.
-Knurled disk allows quick turning of loose fasteners with fingertips.
-Ratchet end compatible with many double-ended bits.
-Thin and narrow head combined with high teeth count can work in the tightest of places.
-Bits can be removed more easily compared to ratchets with the same head.

Cons
-Sides of case remain open; bits can fall out.
-Extension did not look new.
-Warranty is only 2 years, and requires original sales receipt.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 12:23:02 AM by ReamerPunch »


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #68 on: April 22, 2022, 08:26:09 PM
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #69 on: April 22, 2022, 11:05:59 PM
I have to say, I'm still scared of losing my Topeak bits... but I've had it twisting and bounding around in my pockets for quite some time now, and not once found a bit even out of place, let alone fallen out.
My extension was (and remains) unmarred, too.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #70 on: April 24, 2022, 02:32:25 AM
Prestacycle Review Edited

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Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet

Weight
Ratchet: 55g
Extension: 33g
Set: 190g

Length: 114mm
Extension length: 100mm
Head width: 18mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 28mm (adds 3mm)
Teeth count: 60
Minimum swing arc: 6°
Bit retention: spring detent
Extension bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $40 with 12 bits and extension
Bits: Torx 10/20/25/30, Phillips 1, Allen 2/2.5/3/4/5/6/8

Accessories
The Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet comes with twelve Chrome-Vanadium standard 1/4" bits, a long extension, and a nylon wallet to carry everything.
There are elasticated loops for everything. The wallet is single-stitched, with a double-stitched belt-loop. There is also a 65mm x 100mm flat pocket for additional items. The wallet has velcro closure. The wallet is a simple folding one, and bits may slip out of their loops and fall out of the wallet is shaken hard enough.



Dimensions
This is the longest edc ratchet so far. At 55g, it is still lightweight enough for an edc pouch, although to utilize the T-handle special feature, the extension will also be necessary, and this is another 33g. Not the best option for lightweight back-packing, but quite capable. At 18mm, the head is still among the narrowest available, and helps keep the ratchet quite compact.



Teeth Count
The Prestacycle has 60 teeth. Quite high for such a narrow head, this allows a minimum arc swing of six degrees. This is almost as good as it gets with these small ratchets.

Bit Retention
The ratcheting end has a spring, which provides a firm detent on bits even for bits without retention notches.
The in-line driver socket and the extension have magnets. These are way too strong for short bits to be removed with fingers.



Bit compatibility
The ratchet head can be used with double ended bits, be they Leatherman or standard. Thanks to the ratcheting head being almost a pass-though one, pretty much every sort of double ended bit will work. Leatherman bits can be inserted so that the spring engages the side-notches, but can be pushed through if pressing hard enough. They can be inserted so that the small tooth marked with the red dot can prevent them from being pushed through, but the retention spring will not be engaging, so they will fall out from the front.
Stubby bits are easy enough to remove, thanks to the hole in the head. Push from the back to get the bit started.
Bits and extensions with a grooved neck will have a lot of play, although they will not fall out and can still be used.

The in-line driver and extension have strong magnets and are somewhat deep, so stubby bits cannot be removed with just fingers.
Leatherman bits can be kind of used, but they barely engage and will have too much play left and right.
Standard double-ended bits cannot be used for in-line driving or the extension. They do not engage and cannot be turned with the tool.



Switch action
The switch is quite small and has a strong detent. It cannot be operated with a fingertip, and will require a fingernail. The switch sits flat against the body, and does not protrude in any way.

Ease of use
The Prestacycle can exert a great amount of torque thanks to its length. It is easy to grip for people with large hands, as some edc ratchets can be a little too compact.
There is a knurled finger wheel, to quickly turn loose fasteners that do not have enough drag for the ratchet.
The in-line driver is also quite handy.
Thanks to the almost pass-through head, any double-ended bit can be used with the tool.

Examining the ratchet head hole and the extension a little closer reveals the namesake of this ratchet. The hole is a 1/4" hex, that has a single tooth in one corner, which is marked with a red dot on either side of the ratchet head. This corresponds with the seven-sided extension rod. The edge that matches the dotted corner is marked with a step and a dotted line. Assembling the T configuration employs the same principle as the shape sorter toy. The extension only fits through the ratchet in one orientation. Any other position, and the extension will just sit in the ratchet like any other extension in any other ratchet.

This does mean that only one corner of the ratcheting head pushes against a bit, so this should be taken into account when bearing down on a fastener.

The T-Handle configuration provides far more torque than the ratchet head could, and safely so. If that much torque were to be applied on the ratchet  head itself, the teeth might get damaged.
As this ratchet's head is wider than the typical compact bit ratchet, with a stem to match, this ratchet is among the strongest of this design, able to withstand greater abuse. Do not be a hero, though. It is still a small ratchet, designed for the bicycle community.

Construction Quality
The Prestacycle is a high quality tool. The fit and finish is immaculate. The magnets are perfectly centered. The polished finish is crisp and consistent. Everything is nicely chamfered. The ratchet mechanism works flawlessly. The T-handle feature works beautifully and is very easy to configure. All bit sockets are funneled to aid bit insertion. The extension has retention notches at the tip, and in the middle, for the T-handle configuration.

Portability
The Prestacycle is still a thin and narrow design, but a little long. It will fit nicely in an edc pouch along with the extension. It could be persuaded to fit in the side-sleeve of a multi-tool pouch with the extension, but this will not be perfect. The larger than average opening in the back of the head allows for larger carabiners than other compact ratchets. It will still fit into a pen sleeve.



Value
The Prestacycle ratchet with the extension and nothing else is $30. This is a little steep, but it is still a decent deal, considering everything the ratchet has to offer. The soft case set, which consists of the above wallet and twelve bits is $40, which is quite good, and the hard case set is $50. There are enough options to choose from, should you decide to get this.

Conclusion
The Prestacycle is a contender for the best compact bit ratchet. It is nicely made, with a high teeth count, the ability to convert it into a fixed T-handle driver, a good assortment of bits, and a carry case if you need one.

The most impressive thing of this ratchet is the lack of negative qualities, especially compared to other ratchets we have seen. The issue of the soft case not holding the bits perfectly securely can be solved by getting just the ratchet and extension, or using another case, or getting the hard case. Chrome Vanadium is not a premium bit material, but they do the job. If it is not up to your standards, you could get just the ratchet and extension, and then supplement those with a premium bit set.

The only reason not to get this ratchet would be something very specific, like space limitations, since it is the longest yet. Or if 60 teeth are simply not enough for a very particular application. As it is, this is a phenomenal tool that is simply better than the rest.


Pros
-High quality.
-High number of teeth.
-T-handle configuration allows for additional torque.
-Nigh pass-though head works with all double-ended bits.
-Better grip for people with large hands.
-Many purchase options to choose from.

Cons
-The soft case does not hold bits securely enough.
-Bits are only Chrome Vanadium.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #71 on: April 24, 2022, 02:40:45 AM
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CyclingDeal Cigar Tool Kit ratchet
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(can also be found branded by JCool, OG Evkin, RockBros, and X-Tools)
Weight: 52g
Kit weight: 151g
Length: 104mm
Head width: 17mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 30mm (adds 5mm)
Teeth count: 72
Minimum swing arc: 5°
Bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: S2 steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $36 with 6 S2 steel impact bits, bit holder cylinder, aluminium container, and mounting bracket)

Accessories
This comes with six bits, a bit holder, a waterproof aluminium case, and a bracket to mount it on a bicycle frame.
The bit holder resembles a revolver's cylinder and holds six standard bits. In the middle is a metal peg, held in by friction. This protrudes into the in-line driving socket, to allow the ratchet to hold onto it with the magnet.



Dimensions
This is the longest ratchet yet. The head is relatively narrow, and it is still short enough for an edc pouch. The stem is robust, lending to the tool's strength.



Teeth Count
The ratchet has 72 teeth, which is impressive for such a narrow head. This allows for a five degree swing arc which makes turning fasteners a quick process.

Bit Retention
The bits are held in place with magnets in both driving sockets. The magnets are strong, but both sockets are shallower than most, so stubby bits can still be removed easily.

Bit compatibility
Stubby bits are easy to remove, thanks to both bit sockets being shallower than usual. Neither standard double-ended bits nor Leatherman bits can be used with this. Both driving sockets are way too shallow for these long bits to engage and be able to turn.

The bit holder cylinder holds the bits by friction. The bits that came in the set are held firmly, but some bits from other sets were loose in the holder, and will fall out the holder and bang around in the capsule.



Switch action
The switch is oversized, making it extremely easy to operate. It has a strong detent and does not protrude from the sides of the frame, so it will not get turned accidentally. It does protrude a bit at the top, and may catch on things during use.

Ease of use
The high teeth count allows for a low swing arc, making it quick to turn fasteners, even in limited space.
There is a knurled finger wheel for quick work.
The tool is long, providing excellent torque and grip.
The switch is large, very easy to operate.
The driver sockets are shallow, so even though the magnets are strong, bits can be removed with no issues.
The ratcheting assembly is held in place with a plate and a Torx 6 screw, making it easy to disassemble for maintenance.



Construction Quality
This is a high quality tool. The finish is flawless. The ratcheting mechanism has a minuscule amount of wobble in the frame. It has a high teeth count in a narrow head, and the mechanism works beautifully. The bits are S2 steel and finished perfectly.
The aluminium case has a screw-cap on each end. All parts are machined exceptionally well, making it waterproof.
The ratchet sits on the magnetized bit holder, and the whole assembly fits in the tube perfectly and silently.

Portability
The aluminium capsule comes with a mounting bracket, and holds the ratchet and bits tightly. Still, there is a lot of unused space. The bit carrier could be longer, offering more bit positions, to make it more of an attractive option.
The ratchet itself is on the larger side as far as mini ratchets go. It is still compact, and will still fit nicely in a pen slot or an edc pouch.



Value
A high quality item, this set costs a fair amount. It comes with high quality bits and a nice aluminium capsule.
Still, for the price, it could have more bits, or at least a larger bit holder, to offer more bit storage. As it is, users will have to add bits as they see fit, since this comes with only six of them.

Conclusion
This is a very well-made tool. It has many nice features, and it comes with good quality bits and a good carrying option.
Still, this is larger than the typical compact ratchet, it is fairly expensive, it comes with only six bits, and the included aluminium capsule leaves a lot of unused space. Because the ratcheting driver has a magnet, this adds 5mm of length to an inserted bit, compromising the head clearance.

Some compact ratchets may be too compact for people with larger hands, so this may be perfect. It is longer, stronger, nicely made, and has a high teeth count, an in-line driver, a knurled finger wheel, and a nice container. It is easy to use and to disassemble. It also comes under many different brands, so it may be found for less.
 


Pros
-S2 steel impact bits.
-Exceptional quality and finish.
-Robust and long handle provides excellent torque.
-Comes with high quality container and mounting bracket.
-Very high teeth count in a narrow head.
-Easy to disassemble.
-Knurled disk allows quick turning of loose fasteners with fingertips.

Cons
-High price.
-Heavier and bulkier than other options.
-The aluminium capsule leaves a lot of wasted space.


A couple of notes regarding this.
There is a lot of unused space in the tube. I am going to get the amartisan screwdriver and see if I can modify the bitholders to fit in the ratchet tube. Of course, this increases the already high price of the CyclingDeal ratchet, but I would like to see if it can be done. And the ratcheting screwdriver is quite inexpensive.

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Also the Wiha and CyclingDeal ratchets have the exact same ratcheting head. But they are almost the same price, and the Wiha has a ton more bits. But no in-line driver. I do think the Wiha is a better deal, but I already have that ratchet head, so I do not know if I will bother getting it. From what I have seen in the CyclingDeal ratchet, that particular ratchet head is fine. 72 teeth, and the switch is easy to operate. But the head adds a lot of length to a bit, and the switch is a little too big.

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I have received the Amartisan screwdriver. The bit cylinders are a little smaller in diameter compared to the CyclingDeal ratchet bit cylinder. It does seem possible to trim the centers and make them fit in the CyclingDeal tube. The thing is, these Amartisan cylinders are very cheap. After removing a few bits only once, they no longer fit tightly in their spots. Plus getting them adds to the already high price of the CyclindDeal ratchet. So this is not recommended.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #72 on: April 24, 2022, 03:01:53 AM
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Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet

Weight
Ratchet: 55g
Extension: 33g
Set: 190g

Length: 114mm
Extension length: 100mm
Head width: 18mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 28mm (adds 3mm)
Teeth count: 60
Minimum swing arc: 6°
Bit retention: spring detent
Extension bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $40 with 12 bits and extension
Bits: Torx 10/20/25/30, Phillips 1, Allen 2/2.5/3/4/5/6/8

Accessories
The Prestacycle Pro T-Handle Ratchet comes with twelve Chrome-Vanadium standard 1/4" bits, a long extension, and a nylon wallet to carry everything.
There are elasticated loops for everything. The wallet is single-stitched, with a double-stitched belt-loop. There is also a 65mm x 100mm flat pocket for additional items. The wallet has velcro closure. The wallet is a simple folding one, and bits may slip out of their loops and fall out of the wallet is shaken hard enough.



Dimensions
This is the longest edc ratchet so far. At 55g, it is still lightweight enough for an edc pouch, although to utilize the T-handle special feature, the extension will also be necessary, and this is another 33g. Not the best option for lightweight back-packing, but quite capable. At 18mm, the head is still among the narrowest available, and helps keep the ratchet quite compact.



Teeth Count
The Prestacycle has 60 teeth. Quite high for such a narrow head, this allows a minimum arc swing of six degrees. This is almost as good as it gets with these small ratchets.

Bit Retention
The ratcheting end has a spring, which provides a firm detent on bits even for bits without retention notches.
The in-line driver socket and the extension have magnets. These are way too strong for short bits to be removed with fingers.



Bit compatibility
The ratchet head can be used with double ended bits, be they Leatherman or standard. Thanks to the ratcheting head being almost a pass-though one, pretty much every sort of double ended bit will work. Leatherman bits can be inserted so that the spring engages the side-notches, but can be pushed through if pressing hard enough. They can be inserted so that the small tooth marked with the red dot can prevent them from being pushed through, but the retention spring will not be engaging, so they will fall out from the front.
Stubby bits are easy enough to remove, thanks to the hole in the head. Push from the back to get the bit started.
Bits and extensions with a grooved neck will have a lot of play, although they will not fall out and can still be used.

The in-line driver and extension have strong magnets and are somewhat deep, so stubby bits cannot be removed with just fingers.
Leatherman bits can be kind of used, but they barely engage and will have too much play left and right.
Standard double-ended bits cannot be used for in-line driving or the extension. They do not engage and cannot be turned with the tool.



Switch action
The switch is quite small and has a strong detent. It cannot be operated with a fingertip, and will require a fingernail. The switch sits flat against the body, and does not protrude in any way.

Ease of use
The Prestacycle can exert a great amount of torque thanks to its length. It is easy to grip for people with large hands, as some edc ratchets can be a little too compact.
There is a knurled finger wheel, to quickly turn loose fasteners that do not have enough drag for the ratchet.
The in-line driver is also quite handy.
Thanks to the almost pass-through head, any double-ended bit can be used with the tool.

Examining the ratchet head hole and the extension a little closer reveals the namesake of this ratchet. The hole is a 1/4" hex, that has a single tooth in one corner, which is marked with a red dot on either side of the ratchet head. This corresponds with the seven-sided extension rod. The edge that matches the dotted corner is marked with a step and a dotted line. Assembling the T configuration employs the same principle as the shape sorter toy. The extension only fits through the ratchet in one orientation. Any other position, and the extension will just sit in the ratchet like any other extension in any other ratchet.

This does mean that only one corner of the ratcheting head pushes against a bit, so this should be taken into account when bearing down on a fastener.

The T-Handle configuration provides far more torque than the ratchet head could, and safely so. If that much torque were to be applied on the ratchet  head itself, the teeth might get damaged.
As this ratchet's head is wider than the typical compact bit ratchet, with a stem to match, this ratchet is among the strongest of this design, able to withstand greater abuse. Do not be a hero, though. It is still a small ratchet, designed for the bicycle community.

Construction Quality
The Prestacycle is a high quality tool. The fit and finish is immaculate. The magnets are perfectly centered. The polished finish is crisp and consistent. Everything is nicely chamfered. The ratchet mechanism works flawlessly. The T-handle feature works beautifully and is very easy to configure. All bit sockets are funneled to aid bit insertion. The extension has retention notches at the tip, and in the middle, for the T-handle configuration.

Portability
The Prestacycle is still a thin and narrow design, but a little long. It will fit nicely in an edc pouch along with the extension. It could be persuaded to fit in the side-sleeve of a multi-tool pouch with the extension, but this will not be perfect. The larger than average opening in the back of the head allows for larger carabiners than other compact ratchets. It will still fit into a pen sleeve.



Value
The Prestacycle ratchet with the extension and nothing else is $30. This is a little steep, but it is still a decent deal, considering everything the ratchet has to offer. The soft case set, which consists of the above wallet and twelve bits is $40, which is quite good, and the hard case set is $50. There are enough options to choose from, should you decide to get this.

Conclusion
The Prestacycle is a contender for the best compact bit ratchet. It is nicely made, with a high teeth count, the ability to convert it into a fixed T-handle driver, a good assortment of bits, and a carry case if you need one.

The most impressive thing of this ratchet is the lack of negative qualities, especially compared to other ratchets we have seen. The issue of the soft case not holding the bits perfectly securely can be solved by getting just the ratchet and extension, or using another case, or getting the hard case. Chrome Vanadium is not a premium bit material, but they do the job. If it is not up to your standards, you could get just the ratchet and extension, and then supplement those with a premium bit set.

The only reason not to get this ratchet would be something very specific, like space limitations, since it is the longest yet. Or if 60 teeth are simply not enough for a very particular application. As it is, this is a phenomenal tool that is simply better than the rest.


Pros
-High quality.
-High number of teeth.
-T-handle configuration allows for additional torque.
-Nigh pass-though head works with all double-ended bits.
-Better grip for people with large hands.
-Many purchase options to choose from.

Cons
-The soft case does not hold bits securely enough.
-Bits are only Chrome Vanadium.

Given the choice between this and the Topeak, all things considered, which do you choose?
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #73 on: April 24, 2022, 03:18:01 AM


GreaTalent Ratchet Set

Weight: 55g
Kit Weight: 283g
Length: 110mm
Head width: 19mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 30mm (adds 5mm)
Teeth count: 36
Minimum swing arc: 10°
Bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $17 with 36 bits and case (also available for $13 with 24 bits and no case)
Bits:
Phillips: 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3
Pozidrive: 0, 1, 2, 3
Slotted: 3, 5
Allen SAE: 3/32, 1/8, 5/32, 3/16, 7/32, 1/4
Allen Metric: 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6
Robertson: 1, 2, 3
Torx Tamperproof: 8, 9, 10, 15, 20, 25, 27, 30, 40


Accessories
The GreaTalent comes with 36 standard 1/4" S2 steel bits, and a simple plastic case lined with foam. Below each bit there is the corresponding bit specification, to allow easy identification. The text is black, against the black background, so these are not that easy to read. The bits are arranged in a 4x9 grid, and are spaced. They are easy to remove from the case, although this means that there is quite a lot of unused space in the case.



Dimensions
The ratchet is 110mm, certainly on the longer side of edc ratchets. It is also 55g, despite most of it being made out of plastic. This is the same weight as the Prestacycle ratchet, but bulkier and with fewer features. The Ares, which is much shorter than this, is 58g, just 3g heavier but it has more to offer as a ratchet. The CyclingDeal ratchet is 52g, so even lighter and also offers more.



The plastic in-line driver socket hurts the tool. It is made out of plastic, and it is quite bulbous, ruining what would have been a streamlined design. Also, it is made out of plastic, with the casting line very visible along the sides. This should be relegated to lightweight use, because it will not survive much more.



Teeth Count
The GreaTalent ratchet has 36 teeth. This is quite low. The minimum swing arc to engage the next tooth and turn a fastener is ten degrees. This may be too much in certain situations. The upside is that the teeth are exposed and quite large. This allows easier maintenance.

Bit Retention
The bits on both driving sockets are held in by magnets. The ratchet head magnet is quite strong, so bits with thin ends and stubby bits are not easy to remove. The in-line socket driver magnet is rather weak.

Bit compatibility
Stubby bits are difficult to remove because the ratchet magnet is too strong and the in-line driver is too deep.
Double ended bits cannot be used in the ratcheting end. It is too shallow for them to engage and be turned.
Leatherman bits kind of engage in the in-line driver, but they barely do so and have a lot of play side to side.



Switch action
The GreaTalent has an oversized and exposed spring-loaded pawl that acts as its own switch. Pushing it to engage in the left or right position comes with a confident click. The detent is quite good. It does not change positions by simply being bumped.

Ease of use
The GreaTalent has an exposed gear wheel and can be used as a finger wheel for more speed on a somewhat loose fastener. The pawl has a good detent and does not change positions accidentally. The tool is long, offering a good grip and decent amounts of torque. The in-line bit driver is always a welcomed addition, but in this instance, perhaps less so. It is integrated into the plastic of the body, and to make up for it, it is quite bulbous. It may not fit in deep, confined spots, and even if it does, it is plastic, so it may give before the fastener does.



Construction Quality
As part of an inexpensive kit, the ratchet is not the best ever made. It is unbranded, bulky, clunky, and covered in imperfections. There are casting marks, heat treatment marks, dents, scratches, and gaps all over it. It has developed pitting in just a few weeks as well. It almost looks out of place in its nice, crisp case, with the shiny, new S2 bits.

The body consists of two metal plates that sandwich a plastic filler. Not the most robust approach we've seen. Structural integrity relies heavily on the plastic filler piece. This extends beyond the metal plates, to form the in-line bit driving socket. This is a first so far, and preferably the last. It is undoubtedly the weakest in-line driver yet.

Portability
This is the widest ratchet so far, as the in-line driver is quite thick and wide. It sits comfortably in its case, although this is a prerequisite, so it does not count. It will fit in an edc pouch, but will take the most space out of all ratchets we have seen. It does not fit in pen sleeves, and it will stretch out multi-tool case side-sleeves.
Still, as far as bit ratchet kits, the case is not overly bulky. It will easily fit in a pocket, bag, toolbox, etc.



Value
At $17, this is not a bad purchase. There are 36 S2 steel bits, a ratchet that works, and a decent case to store it all.

Conclusion
This shares its construction and ratchet head with the Jackly key-chain ratchet. The main body is also very reminiscent of the Mulwark and Neiko ratchets. The GreaTalent offers a few more features. The gear wheel acts as a finger wheel. It has an in-line driver. It has 36 teeth compared to the 16 of the Mulwark. It comes with 36 S2 steel bits and a case for $17, compared to the Mulwark which costs $16 for 19 Chrome-Vanadium bits and no case. There is some undeniable value to this set.

Still, being better than the absolute worst does not mean much. The teeth count is still low. The tool is heavier than it needs to be. Its structural integrity relies on plastic. It is crudely made. The in-line bit driving socket is entirely made out of plastic. It is thick and wide for edc. The case leaves too much unused space.

This is a nice kit with an average ratchet. It is quite inexpensive, and it comes with 36 S2 bits, including 9 Tamperproof Torx, and both SAE and Metric Allen bits. This is the main selling point. The ratchet is secondary, and rightly so. It works as part of this kit. As far as edc is concerned, there are much better options out there. If you are looking for a decent kit for around the house, this may be all you need. If you are looking for a micro ratchet for your Maxpedition or Leatherman case, you will be better off looking elsewhere.


Jackly key-chain ratchet, GreaTalent, Mulwark

Pros
-36 standard S2 steel bits, including 9 Tamperproof Torx, and both SAE and Metric Allen bits.
-Excellent price for the set.
-Geared wheel is exposed, able to be used as a finger wheel.

Cons
-In-line bit socket is plastic and bulbous.
-Half the ratchet is made of plastic.
-Average fit and finish on the ratchet.
-Case leaves a lot of unused space.
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #74 on: April 24, 2022, 03:48:25 AM
Given the choice between this and the Topeak, all things considered, which do you choose?

Tough question. Let's see if I can break it down for everyone. :think:

This is by order of preference. It may change though.

Ares
I recommend this first and foremost. It is wonderful. Short, strong, in-line driver, 72 teeth, no added length to inserted bits, great price.

Giant
Amazing micro ratchet. Tiny, comfortable, S2 bits, in-line driver, finger wheel. Amazing.

PK Tools
Topeak
Essentially the same, and very closely related to the Giant. The Giant is just a little bit more comfortable. These are also exceptional. Which one you should get depends on what you need and what they come with, and availability. Just a ratchet? The PK Tools ratchet is excellent and even in Amazon.com.au for us down under. Do you want a flat box? Giant. A pouch and tire levers and more bits? Topeak. These are all good, and of the same top quality.

Prestacycle
My only gripe with this is unfair. This is a little too big for edc. And to get the full value, you have to use the extension, which is also longer, aka heavier and bulkier than the average extension that comes with these. It also comes with Chrome Vanadium bits, so the Topeak and Giant have it beat there. But still, I do recommend this. It is excellent.

Victorinox
As good and thin and high quality as this is, it is still expensive. It costs a fair amount, and it is not easy to find to begin with. It is also a true pass-though head, so that may be annoying. Still excellent of course, and I do recommend it if you can find and afford it.

CyclingDeal
Torn. This is a good ratchet, but it has issues. Good quality, in-line driver, great head, and 72 teeth, but it adds too much length to inserted bits. The tube is cool but it comes with only one bit cylinder and six bits. And it is the second most expensive. You'd be better off getting the Topeak or Prestacycle.

Mulwark
Well, cheap beaters have their place. I carry the stubby bits with me in my wallet every day. The ratchet works too. Also cheap.

Bosch
Trojan
GreaTalent
Not the best for edc, which this thread attempted to investigate. I like the Bosch bit set. A ton of S2 bits and an extension. The Trojan is built like a tank, and has excellent ergonomics and an in-line driver and an extension. Quite good.
The GreaTalent also has an excellent bit set. S2 steel, Imperial and Metric Allen, tamperproof Torx. No extension and an average ratchet though.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #75 on: April 28, 2022, 03:52:52 AM


Titan Swivel Head micro ratchet

Weight: 78g
Length: 110mm with driver at 180° (105mm with driver at 90°)
Head width: 23mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 38mm (adds 13mm)
Teeth count: 90
Minimum swing arc: 4°
Bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: yes (swivel head)
In-line driver socket bit retention: magnet
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $17 with two bits
Bits: Stubby Phillips #1 and #2

Accessories
The Titan swivel head ratchet comes with two stubby Phillips bits. The bits tend to cam out easily. It was much more efficient to use other standard bits with the ratchet than the two it came with.



Dimensions
At 78g, this is the heaviest ratchet yet. Not exactly heavy enough to build your biceps, but it will definitely be noticed in a pocket or pouch. This ratchet is also quite long. With the ratcheting head at 90° the ratchet measures 105mm, but the bit socket will protrude to the side quite a lot. The socket can of course be turned to 180°, but then the ratchet is 110mm long.

The head is 23mm wide, due to the forked end of the body holding the ratchet head. This may interfere with reaching into things.
Because of the swivel head design, the switch is also on the back of the ratchet head. The head adds 13mm to the length of a bit. This may also interfere with trying to fit the head into tight spots.



Teeth Count
The Titan has 90 teeth, which give an impressive four degree minimum swing arc. This is the highest teeth count yet, and will allow the ratchet to turn fasteners with minimum swinging.

Bit Retention
Bits are held in place with a magnet, which is extremely strong. Standard stubby bits are not easily removed from the driving socket, despite it being rather shallow.

Bit compatibility
Standard stubby bits are difficult to remove. The driving socket is too shallow for double-ended bits to engage and be turned.



Switch action
The switch on this is unlike anything so far. The entire back plate of the ratchet head is the switch. It has a raised shape to allow it to be gripped and turned. This is not ideal, and makes it just a little tiresome to turn the switch.
The whole thing twists along with the ratcheting bit driver socket. There are no indicators as to which position has been selected and which direction it has to be turned towards to change settings. It is easy enough to find out, but it becomes tedious to have to check every time.

I usually press against the back of a ratchet head with my thumb, to improve control and keep the bit in the fastener. This is not possible with the Titan, since the whole back plate is the switch. Pressing against it prevents the ratcheting driver from spinning.

Ease of use
The body has some knurling to aid with grip when driving in-line.
The tool has a decent length to provide good torque. The 90 teeth allow for a four degree minimum swing arc.
The swivel head allows for many different angles of driving fasteners. All other ratchets so far have been right-angle.
The Titan can also drive in-line, although a fixed in-line driver that many ratchets offer is quite preferable.
The switch is not ideal, as it prevents users pushing on the back of the ratchet head, and has no way of indicating the selected position and which way it has to be turned. And it is not even easy to turn to begin with.
The head is quite wide, and it adds 13mm to a bit's length, which is the most we have seen so far.

Driving in-line does not provide much torque for tight screws, and may put too much strain on the fine teeth of the ratchet. A fixed in-line driver may have been a better option.

The major issue with the Titan swivel head is that the swivel head is not locking. When driving at a right-angle, or close to a right angle, the swivel head tends to fold. It is almost impossible to turn tight fasteners with one hand, like with fixed-head ratchets. When driving in-line, this is even more apparent, as the swivel head will start folding, until the bit cams out of the fastener. This is less of an issue with bits that have tight fitment into fasteners, like Allen bits, but since Phillips #2 is the most common fastener in most places, the issue still remains.



Construction Quality
The ratchet is well-made. The finish is consistent. The swivel head pivots around nicely and is quite tight. The knurling is effective. There are a couple of dents on the edges of the tool, and the ratchet back-plate seems a little roughed up, but is still looks and feels like a quality tool.

Portability
Not as streamlined as most ratchets we have seen. The head is wide and the driving socket protrudes a little. It can be turned to 180°, but then the tool becomes longer. It is also the heaviest yet, at 78g. The main body is still thin enough to fit in the usual sleeves and pouches.



Value
At $17, this is arguably expensive for what it is. It only came with two mediocre bits and nothing else. The main selling point is the swivel head feature, but considering everything we have seen, it still feels like it should cost a little less or come with more.

Conclusion
The Titan swivel-head ratchet is undeniably interesting. It has features no other ratchet so far has. The swivel head will undeniably reach fasteners no fixed-head ratchet will. The Titan also has the highest teeth count so far, with 90 teeth. This is unbeatable. The minimum swing arc is only at four degrees.

Unfortunately, the Titan comes last or second last in many other lists. It is the heaviest yet, at 78 grams. It has the widest head yet, at 23mm. It adds the most to the inserted bit length, at 13mm. It has the worst switch. It has the worst price-to-accessories ratio, at $17 with only two mediocre bits.

The selling point was the swivel head feature, and the high teeth count. Sadly, these mean little when using the ratchet is cumbersome. The Phillips #2 bit that came with the ratchet is the worst fitting bit I have used. Even with Wiha bits though, the Titan was not easy to use. The swivel head seemed to create more problems than it solved. I get much better performance out of much cheaper ratchets. Even the Mulwark, with its humble 16 teeth was easier to use. It is low-profile, it takes double-ended bits, I know which position the ratchet is in, and which way the switch has to go to select the other direction, and it came with 19 bits for a dollar less than the Titan. For the same price as the Titan, you can get the GreaTalent ratchet, which comes with a case and 36 S2 bits.

Considering everything so far, I do not think I would recommend this. The swivel head feature is neat, and will work where no other right-angle ratchet will, but if the fastener is a little too tight, and users are pushing the bit in the screw, the head will simply start to swivel. A locking swivel head would have been even more interesting and much easier to use. Users will have to get used to the quirks of the swivel head to get the most out of it.


Pros
-Swivel head allows right-angle driving, in-line driving, and everything in between.
-90 teeth provide a minimum swing arc of 4°.
-Good build quality.

Cons
-Comes with only two mediocre bits.
-Swivel-head is not locking; folds when pushing into fastener.
-Head adds 13mm to bit clearance.
-Switch has no direction or position indicators.
-Heavy.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #76 on: April 29, 2022, 01:23:46 PM
Well, you won't be seeing this ratchet in here any time soon. :o



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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #77 on: April 29, 2022, 06:30:59 PM
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I wonder how expensive is it for someone to ship items from the US to Australia?


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #78 on: May 11, 2022, 05:19:14 AM


Jackly key-chain ratchet

Weight: 42g
Bit holder with 6 bits: 40g
Length: 60mm
Head width: 19mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 30mm (adds 5mm)
Teeth count: 36
Minimum swing arc: 10°
Bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: no
In-line driver socket bit retention: -
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $9 with 6 bits and a bit holder
Bits: Phillips 0/1/2/3, Slotted 4, 1/4" square socket adapter

Accessories
The Jackly comes with four Phillips bits, a slotted bit, a square socket adapter, a bit holder with six bit slots, a 10mm split-ring, and a 30mm split-ring. The bits are interesting. They all have a colored, knurled collar. This does assist extraction from the holder and ratchet, and they can also be used as finger spinners, although the ratchet has a knurled gear head anyway.



Dimensions
At 60mm, this is the shortest ratchet yet, with the Ares ratchet being the second shortest, at 85mm. The Jackly is still quite wide and thick. At 42g, this is lightweight, but the Topeak and PK Tools ratchets are a mere 29g.



Teeth Count
The Jackly ratchet shares its design and construction with the GreaTalent ratchet. The Jackly has 36 teeth, for a minimum swing arc of ten degrees. This is not the best, but the short body and low profile head allow for some maneuverability, so not all is lost.

Bit Retention
The bits are held in place by a magnet. It is not overly strong, so it will do its job without making bits hard to remove.

Bit compatibility
Stubby bits can be removed easily. The ratchet is not compatible with double ended bits.



Switch action
The Jackly ratchet has an oversized and exposed pawl, which is its own switch. It is spring-loaded, and the retention is excellent. When in one position, it will not switch positions by bumping into something. Its sides are also knurled to offer traction when operating it.

Ease of use
The Jackly has 36 teeth, which provide a 10 degree minimum swing arc. This is far from impressive, but expected of an inexpensive ratchet of this size. As long as it has enough room to engage a few teeth, this will do. The wheel and pawl engage each other convincingly, with no tolerance issues.
The Jackly has an exposed gear wheel and can be used as a finger wheel for more speed on a somewhat loose fastener. The pawl has a good detent and does not change positions accidentally. The ratchet is rather short, which is understandable, as it is intended for key-chain carry. It has a stocky body with a flared end, which helps fill the hand and be comfortable. It does not provide exceptional comfort or torque, but it is not meant to. As it is, it is perfectly usable for a quick fix.



Construction Quality
Much like the GreaTalent ratchet, the Jackly consists of two metal plates riveted together to hold the internals. It is rather thick and wide compared to other compact ratchets. The lanyard hole end is plastic. This may cause some concern, but the plastic piece is wide and it only houses the pawl's spring. It is not the best arrangement, but it does appear strong enough to hold the spring and a lanyard.
The wheel and pawl have precisely ground teeth and engage perfectly.The pawl has excellent detent in both positions. The lanyard hole is chamfered and will not damage cords. The body plates have some grind marks and a few burrs.


Portability
This is the main selling point of this ratchet. It is short, lightweight, has a lanyard hole, and it comes with a key-chain set-up bit holder. Admittedly, we have seen other ratchets that weigh even less. Some even have a pass-through head that allows key-chain carry. Still, the Jackly is the shortest ratchet yet, and will be at home on a key-chain. If you only want a few bits, those can be on your keys as well.
Of course, the ratchet is so short, that is will take little space in an edc pouch.



Value
Costing only $9, there is some undeniable value to this ratchet set. It is short, it has a knurled finger wheel, a good magnet, and a nice lanyard hole. It also comes with a bit holder and six bits.

Conclusion
The main attraction of this is the key-chain compatibility. It is not the strongest mini ratchet, or the most fancy. It is not the best when it comes to fit and finish. It does not offer many features. Most if not all ratchet we've seen so far offer more.

Still, this ratchet is unbeatable when it comes to key-chain carry. It does not win the portability category altogether. There are slimmer, lighter ratchets out there. But it is the shortest and most inexpensive. It works as intended, and it is plenty strong for what its intended use.

At $9, with a key-chain bit holder and six bits, it is hard not to recommend this. It will make a nice addition to a key-chain, it works as intended, and at its price point, it will make an excellent little gift or stocking stuffer.





Pros
-Gear wheel is exposed, able to be turned with fingers.
-True key-chain set-up, with short length, large ring hole and double key-ring bit holder.
-Inexpensive.

Cons
-Somewhat heavy for its length.
-No warranty or other information of listed brand.
-Structural integrity relies on plastic.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #79 on: May 12, 2022, 11:15:59 AM
I received the Wiha mini ratchet.  :drool:
So the pending reviews are of the Wiha, Rujoi flex-head, Klein, and Ovatt.

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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #80 on: May 12, 2022, 12:10:37 PM
I received the Wiha mini ratchet.  :drool:
So the pending reviews are of the Wiha, Rujoi flex-head, Klein, and Ovatt.

I have both the Wiha and the Klein. Can't wait to hear your opinions on them  :popcorn:


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #81 on: May 16, 2022, 02:20:30 PM
I have decided not to get the Wiha one.

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I am glad I decided to get the Wiha. The case is tiny for what it has. I got the TerminatorBlue go-box for $40, and two days later I saw it for $36. :o
Just excellent. Great ratchet, nice locking extension, amazing bit selection, and the tiny case is just sweet.
I am writing the review now. I do recommend this, of course. It is an excellent investment, and miles better than the cheap sets you will find on Amazon.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #82 on: May 17, 2022, 05:32:55 PM
Some great choices here and lots of great info, RP :salute: :like:


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #83 on: May 18, 2022, 02:03:50 AM
A great set of reviews.  Hope you don't need that surgery.
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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #84 on: May 19, 2022, 05:12:03 AM
Thanks, guys! :cheers:
It looks like I may not need the surgery, which is a huge relief. This is unrelated to my fractured toe, but when it rains, it pours, so what can you do.

Question: Why are stubby bits not more of a thing? :think:
I've come to appreciate the Mulwark ratchet more and more, because it comes with 19 bits, of which 13 are stubby bits. These are great. I know it's not that much of a job to just cut down standard bits, and I may end up doing it. Still, what's going on? Amazon has only one stubby bit set, and it's $112. I cannot find anything else. The next best thing is indeed the Mulwark ratchet.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #85 on: May 19, 2022, 06:10:02 PM
Here's a breakdown of the ratchets I have so far. Pending reviews are the Wiha, Rujoi flex-head, Ovatt, Klein.

Keep in mind that there are things that do not show up in here. The Titan costs $17, but comes with only two stubby bits. The GreaTalent also costs $17, but it comes with a case, and 36 S2 steel bits. For more information on accessories, ergonomics, fit and finish, etc, refer to the reviews. I am in the process of quantifying the subjective categories.

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Reply #86 on: May 23, 2022, 11:04:13 AM
very interesting, as usual :)


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #87 on: May 24, 2022, 07:17:19 AM
Just received three more! :like:
Wera Zyklop
Anex low profile ratchet
Jadeshay ratchet

So excited for these!  :cheers:

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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #88 on: May 25, 2022, 08:37:44 AM


Ovatt Ratchet
(can also be found branded by Hilitand, Omninmo, Utoolmart)
Weight: 74g
Kit weight: 218g
Length: 105mm
Head width: 24mm
Head clearance with standard bit: 32mm (adds 7mm)
Teeth count: 60
Minimum swing arc: 6°
Bit retention: magnet
In-line driver bit socket: no
In-line driver socket bit retention: -
Bit material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Handle material: Chrome Vanadium steel
Price: $20 with 10 bits
Bits: Phillips 0 and 2, Slotted 3 and 6, Spanner 4 and 6, Triangle 2.3, Allen 5 and 6, Tri-wing 2

Accessories
The Ovatt comes with ten bits, an extension, a plastic carrying case, and a zippered nylon pouch that has a clear plastic presentation side. The case sits in the pouch, with its belt clip exposed. The case can be removed from the pouch and used separately. The bits are stored in a moving part that is released with a latch. The bits are held in by friction, which is not much, but when this part is closed, the bits cannot escape. The extension snaps into place, but the two tines that retain it are already white with stress, and do not inspire confidence. The part that houses the extension has a hole, so users can poke the holder from the underside to release it.
The bits include two spanner bits, a triangle bit, and a tri-wing bit. A little unusual to find such specialty bits in a ratchet kit that is targeted to the bike community.



Dimensions
The Ovatt is a little on the long side of edc ratchets, though certainly not by much. It is rather heavy, at 74g, currently at third place behind the Titan swivel-head at 78g and the Klein at 76g. The Ovatt has the widest head so far, at 24mm. It also adds 7mm to an inserted bit's clearance. All this may result in the Ovatt being just short of accessing a fastener in a tight spot.



Teeth Count
The Ovatt has 60 teeth, which is on the higher side. This gives it a minimum swing arc of six degrees for the head to engage the next tooth and turn a fastener. This would have been fine, but there are many other compact ratchets with much slimmer heads, with the same or even more teeth.

Bit Retention
The Ovatt and its extension use magnets to hold bits in place. These are adequate for their purpose. They are not overly weak or strong.

Bit compatibility
The ratchet socket is too short for double-ended bits to engage.
The extension it comes with is too deep for stubby bits. Double-ended bits will turn, but they barely engage, and have a lot of play.



Switch action
The switch is short but relatively thick. It sits and swings in its own little scallop. It has a good detent and does not seem to change positions when bumped accidentally, which itself is not easy to do.

Ease of use
The Ovatt is long, thick, with a coke-bottle shape body. It is nicely rounded and comfortable to hold. It provides a decent amount of torque. It even has a lanyard hole so it can be tethered if needed. It has 60 teeth, which may come in handy if a fastener is in a tight spot. Still, the Ovatt has the widest head yet, so this may cause issues. The head also adds 7mm to a bit's clearance, so stubby bits may be needed to compensate.

The knurled finger wheel is thin and much shorter in diameter than the ratchet head. As such, it is extremely difficult to spin it with your fingertips.

To access the bits, the latch mechanism must be pressed down. When doing this, the bit holder shoots open, and because the bits are held in with some friction, they can simply be catapulted across the room. Care must be taken to prevent the bit holder compartment from opening as violently as it does.



Construction Quality
Average. The Ovatt is an inexpensive tool and it shows. The ratchet body has dings, scratches, and imperfections all over. The ratchet mechanism has a lot of wobble in the head. The lanyard hole has a burred edge that will make quick work of cords.

The bits are simply painted, and the paint did not survive one single screw.

The extension, much like the ratchet, is covered in dings and scratches.

The nylon sheath is single-stitched and the lining is stitched unevenly and crooked at places. There are already loose threads.

The plastic case is thin and there are stress marks already. The bit holder spring is too strong but the bit retention very weak. There are burrs and imperfections as well.

Portability
A mixed bag. The case has a belt clip, and the nylon pouch will catch any components that manage to fall out of their spot when on the move. This happens often. Having two mediocre containers working together is an inefficient and inelegant solution. It seems like the nylon pouch was an afterthought, to counter the mediocre plastic case. Any loose components will still remain in the pouch, but that means little. Users will have to open the pouch carefully and be mindful of any items ready to drop.

Of course, it does not help that the bit holder shoots out, launching bits away.

The ratchet is a good thickness for multi-tool pouch side-sleeves. It will fit in edc pouches. Tethering will require clips, as the lanyard hole will wear through cords.



Value
A prime example of "you get what you pay for", the Ovatt ratchet is inexpensive and it shows. This was bought for $20, and for that much, it is disappointing. The price has dipped at as low as $14, which is far more appropriate.

Conclusion
Mixed bags are not worth it in most cases, but at least there are some positives. The Ovatt is not a mixed bag. The only positives are the 60 teeth, and that it comes with 10 bits and an extension. Poor fit and finish; a below average holder and nylon pouch; black paint for the bits, that did not survive a single screw; ratchet and extension covered in imperfections; a lanyard hole that will wear down any cord that can fit through it; a knurled finger wheel that cannot be turned with fingers; the widest ratchet head we have seen thus far.

Does it work? Yes, it does work. You can put bits in it, and use it to turn screws. Is that good? Well, it's not bad, but it was a given that a bit ratchet would be able to use bits. It is thick, long, and round, so it does not do a half-bad job. Still, there is more to a bit ratchet than ratcheting bits. Compared to other ratchets we have seen, the Ovatt offers less than most. Sure, some ratchets have fewer teeth, but even then, they cost less, weighed less, and came in a much better set. Are you actually in the market for a cheap, unbranded bit ratchet? Get the GreaTalent. It costs $17, and comes with 36 S2 steel bits, a nice flat plastic case, and it has a perfectly usable knurled wheel (actually one of the best so far). Not a good enough brand for you? Get the Bosch mini ratchet. It costs $20 too, and comes with 20 S2 steel impact-rated bits, four sockets, an extension, and a nice plastic case.

There are many better options out there, that cost less and offer more. I do not see any reason to recommend the Ovatt over anything else. If you have settled on the Ovatt, keep looking. Go back in this thread and find something else. Keep browsing Amazon. Something better will undoubtedly appear.
Much can be said about the Ovatt bit ratchet; very little will be favorable. 



Pros
-High teeth count.
-Bits include spanner, triangle, and tri-point.

Cons
-Heavy.
-Knurled finger wheel is hard to operate.
-Average fit and finish.
-Head adds a lot of length to bit.
-Low quality sheath and holder.
-Head is very wide.
-Bit holder compartment spring too strong; shoots bits away when used.
-Lanyard hole is unfinished and sharp.


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Re: EDC Bit Ratchets
Reply #89 on: May 26, 2022, 09:03:36 PM
Damned, when I started reading the review, I thought "cool! that grey and orange case would match nicely with my Juice(s) S2 and Fiskars tools" ...
Then I followed along, got to the conclusion and ... "okay, not for me then"  :dunno:
not all reviewed tools can be good  :cheers:

Just received three more! :like:
Wera Zyklop
Anex low profile ratchet
Jadeshay ratchet

So excited for these!  :cheers:

So am I ! (mostly for the Wera, and maybe that blue boxed one, that wouldn't match with above mentioned tools  :rant:)


 

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