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[JAfromMn]

I heartily agree that MT.O is a haven among net forums...  And you are special Boss... this place shows it.   

Nope, not me.  I don't make this forum what it is- everyone here makes it what it is.  But thanks for the sentiment!

Def

He's also humble. 

Yup Grant get's Two thumbs up from me.

[Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

I heartily agree that MT.O is a haven among net forums...  And you are special Boss... this place shows it.   

Nope, not me.  I don't make this forum what it is- everyone here makes it what it is.  But thanks for the sentiment!

Def

He's also humble. 

Yup Grant get's Two thumbs up from me.

Hear hear!!!

 

[ironraven]

Nope, not me.  I don't make this forum what it is- everyone here makes it what it is.

We couldn't do it if you hadn't made it. Now shut up and take a compliment, or I'll get the wiffleball bat. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yes dear. 

Def

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[Ashley]

The only forum I've only had a good deal of trouble on is the worst forum period......jerzeedevil. I can't stand a few of the people there. I received a 70 point infraction for posting a joking comment like others were but it caught me 70 points. Anything I did on there I had an smurfhole named soupy moving, changing, or put everything I said down! I've had a few infraction on BF for stupid things like language, and insulting a member. He stole a knife from me and I called him an idiot and received an infraction for it. Also I've reposted to soon before. But all in all forums are fun. I really like here, esee, and bf for marketplace.

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[Grant Lamontagne]

Points? Wow, that's different.

Def

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[Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

Points? Wow, that's different.

Def

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Right on the tops of their little heads!   

[J-sews]

Points? Wow, that's different.

Def

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Right on the tops of their little heads!   

You just earned yourself 50 points for that little remark mister!!    

[Steinar]

I'd just like to chime in with a  for MT.O and Grant. I came here simply because I wanted to discuss knives and MTs, and life is too short to waste on frequenting places where people who disagree with the local consensus are shouted down or worse. 

(And... points? WTF? Shouldn't we make our online communities mimick the best real-life communities and promote behavior which helps the community, not play out like some parody of the Stanford prison experiment?)

[BIG-TARGET]

Nope, not me.  I don't make this forum what it is- everyone here makes it what it is.

We couldn't do it if you hadn't made it. Now shut up and take a compliment, or I'll get the wiffleball bat. 

REALITY CHECK!!!!  We don't use wfflrball bats here. We use "PUNISHMENT CHICKENS"!!

[JAfromMn]

I never heard of the Stanford prison experiment.

Very Interesting read thanks  for posting it Steiner

[Ashley]

Yea if I were to get 5 more I'd been ban for life. OH well. BF gives point infractions also. They use 1 to 5 normally. 20 is an auto ban I believe.

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[Lynn LeFey]

I got banned from a site called CortexSystemRPG.org for calling someone out on a 'gay' comment that was clearly against stated site policy. When said poster whined to the head mod, I got dressed down. In a PM to the head mod, I told him it was site policy, and he was being a smurfing smurftard. That mod was an a-hole, straight-up, but it was his little kingdom, so off I went.

I'm not very good at subtle and playing politics.

[JAfromMn]

How many point,likes, or ? Do I get for picking up a SwissTool RS in trade of MTO and taking a crappy pic of it

Post 300

Some would Ban me. Some think I'm Fun.
 All of you got to put up me.

Awesome forum thanks everyone who makes it work. It can't be easy to put up with all of us. LoL

[Grant Lamontagne]

We used to have a thing called Karma that allowed you to rate other members and that member's score would show up under their names.  It was kind of a pointless thing in my mind, but some folks got terribly upset when they got a negative vote.  I also think I was prejudiced against because I got very few negative votes.

I could see how one could use a system like that to keep track of banning people- get a score below a certain point and you are gone.  We would never institute a thing like that though, largely because even unpopular opinions are important.  You'd get members getting into a heated debate over Spirit Vs Charge and you'd end up with everyone on the Leatherman side giving bad votes to everyone on the Vic side and vice versa, then you'd have the Gerber and SOG guys negatively voting on both of them and soon we have no Charge or Spirit enthusiasts left! 

Def

[Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

I'd just like to chime in with a  for MT.O and Grant. I came here simply because I wanted to discuss knives and MTs, and life is too short to waste on frequenting places where people who disagree with the local consensus are shouted down or worse. 

(And... points? WTF? Shouldn't we make our online communities mimick the best real-life communities and promote behavior which helps the community, not play out like some parody of the Stanford prison experiment?)

Phil Zimbardo's wife teaches social psych at Cal Berkeley, she the a professor for one of my undergraduate upper division specialty electives.

Glad to see more people with interest in psychology here, even if it is that squishy, touchy-feely social psych stuff...   

I myself need more quantifiability and objectivity... that's why my degree is in cognitive neurophysiology and visual perception.   

Okay, sorry for the hijacking... you may return to your regularly scheduled thread now!   

[JAfromMn]

 Heinz gets - 100 points for being to dam smart.

And a like from me.

I never got the whole points and likes.

I just post what I want. I like it so points from me to me.
 

[Nikos]

Oh and by the way, LMs rust, Vics rule!

[Steinar]

I myself need more quantifiability and objectivity... that's why my degree is in cognitive neurophysiology and visual perception.   

Actually, one of my best friends has a master's in psychophysics, studying visual perception from a physicist's point of view, as opposed to the psychological. Myself, I need more quantifiability and objectivity, so my own degree is in biophysics.

(Though I work as a software engineer/codemonkey and have done so for all my professional career. A fully absurd discipline, IMHO. And the friend I mentioned is working in computer security. http://xkcd.com/1052/ hits the nail on the spot.)

Sorry about the rehijacking, back to.. Err... Vic is pretty much the only company delivering acceptable F&F on relatively cheap tools and knives. You need to move onto high end stuff to get anything noticeably better. There, just let me get my asbestos underwear.

[Mercury]

Oh and by the way, LMs rust, Vics rule!

 




 

[Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

I myself need more quantifiability and objectivity... that's why my degree is in cognitive neurophysiology and visual perception.   

Actually, one of my best friends has a master's in psychophysics, studying visual perception from a physicist's point of view, as opposed to the psychological. Myself, I need more quantifiability and objectivity, so my own degree is in biophysics.

(Though I work as a software engineer/codemonkey and have done so for all my professional career. A fully absurd discipline, IMHO. And the friend I mentioned is working in computer security. http://xkcd.com/1052/ hits the nail on the spot.)

Sorry about the rehijacking, back to.. Err... Vic is pretty much the only company delivering acceptable F&F on relatively cheap tools and knives. You need to move onto high end stuff to get anything noticeably better. There, just let me get my asbestos underwear.

A lot of my grad school training was in classic psychophysics!  Small world!  We're sort of a dying breed these days, which is a shame.  I see lots of methodological errors in a lot of research papers on attentional function, visual selection, and so on.  Not just minor issues either, but things that are serious confounds because basic aspects of the mechanical and optical function of the eyes have been overlooked or taken for granted. 

Hermann von Helmholtz is one of my great intellectual heroes!  Unlike most people in psychology, I have actually read a lot of Principles of Optics... my advisor made me do it, and it was an eye opener... no pun intended!   (Also unlike a lot of modern psychologists, I've also read almost all of William James' Principles of Psychology.)

For example, there's this paper published by these two guys, Klein and Farrell, in 1989, that supposedly tests whether the eyes need to move to do a visual attention search task.  They conclude that saccadic eye movements aren't necessary to do a visual attention search task.  But, their method is horribly, and I mean fatally, flawed... all of their search items were presented in a space no larger than 2.5 visual degrees in diameter.  The reason that's a problem is that the effective area of high acuity vision around the macula and fovea in the retina is, what do you know... about 1.8 to 2.4 visual degrees in diameter!!!  In other words, the task was one that didn't even require people to have to move their eyes to find the target to begin with!!!  No wonder they concluded it wasn't necessary...  I'm amazed these guys got that research through peer review with that kind of confound!!! 

I've been wanting to replicate that study to control for that confound, as well as introduce a backward white noise mask to disable any effects from visual persistence once the stimulus is extinguished.  I'd bet a month's pay that my results would blow them out of the water...  Well, eventually I'll get around to it.  But that's the direction the research I'm interested in (what little I've been able to do so far) has gone, finding and resolving psychophysical confounds in visual attention research, because so many vision scientists these days are purely cognitive psychologists, or neurophysiologists, and have no training or background in how to properly design, implement, and measure valid psychophysical tasks.

[powerring]

I'd just like to chime in with a  for MT.O and Grant. I came here simply because I wanted to discuss knives and MTs, and life is too short to waste on frequenting places where people who disagree with the local consensus are shouted down or worse. 

(And... points? WTF? Shouldn't we make our online communities mimick the best real-life communities and promote behavior which helps the community, not play out like some parody of the Stanford prison experiment?)

Phil Zimbardo's wife teaches social psych at Cal Berkeley, she the a professor for one of my undergraduate upper division specialty electives.

Glad to see more people with interest in psychology here, even if it is that squishy, touchy-feely social psych stuff...   

I myself need more quantifiability and objectivity... that's why my degree is in cognitive neurophysiology and visual perception.   

Okay, sorry for the hijacking... you may return to your regularly scheduled thread now!   

They did a spot on the Stanford Prison Experiment on Dark Matters on the Science Channel in the last couple of weeks.  You may be able to catch it in reruns.

[JAfromMn]

My ban on EDCF was made permanent.

O well.

I asked that all my posts be removed. I was told no.

I might delete my photobucket album with my edcf pic's but I'm still unsure.

I just don't feel they deserve my work.

Lame forum with lame people running it.

I like people who work for a living.

 I just got a job back. I put in work to get it.

MTO has good working people not a bunch of rich kids playing with there expensive toy's. We use our tools here.

Some like to have a selection of them to pick from like me. Nice to fit in.

[J-sews]

Just out of curiosity, did they say why your "temporary" ban was made permanent?

[tattoosteve99]

Basically because its ok to talk about it here without repercussion from mods. Whats the use in a open conversation if it gets locked away or deleted. The only way to solve a problem is to talk about it. Even if you do it privately, you shouldn't be punished for a difference of opinion. I know I have had several brain farts, but I kept on going.   

[JAfromMn]

I was banned for talking about a banned member. TT pockeTools owner has become a friend of mine and I showed of his tools.

I'm not going to miss the bs

[tattoosteve99]

I was banned for talking about a banned member. TT pockeTools owner has become a friend of mine and I showed of his tools.

I'm not going to miss the bs

[tattoosteve99]

For us here at MTO a discussion of this nature is looked upon with open minds and conscience thought processes. If it were a multi, or sak, regardless of how it was. It would still be treated in a respectful way, even if we personally thought something else. That's just the general feel here. Talk about what you want, when you want, how you want, minus smurf words and its always good. I love this place. Even when I have digressions and short comings, it's never a big deal. Everyone just agrees, laughs it off, or just moves along without even as much as a thought.   

[Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

Basically because its ok to talk about it here without repercussion from mods. Whats the use in a open conversation if it gets locked away or deleted. The only way to solve a problem is to talk about it. Even if you do it privately, you shouldn't be punished for a difference of opinion. I know I have had several brain farts, but I kept on going.

+1!   

[AHB]

I was banned.....

I got nothing to add, just that "Practice" is one of my all time favorite Testament albums..


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