Access to Power -SOG 30-day Challenge! Starting June 1st! Access & Access Deluxe

[gerleatherberman]

On that last pic GLBM, how solid was the sensation you got from the PAD when tightening the bolt? Haven't tried that yet...

The only thing I wasn't too thrilled about is the slight looseness of the tool inside the socket. But, that is not a problem with the tool, it is just an issue with having 1/2 of a 1/4" driver to do it. 

[powernoodle]

don’t know how Powernoodle got away with cutting that nail he did 

Skill.  Talent.  Good looks.  Its all part of the same continuum.

In Nutnfancy's Youtube review of the Swisstool several years ago, he cut a nail in half too with no damage.

PN shouldn't have done it either. Makes little to no sense.

Now, you know that MTO is not about making sense.  A bunch of semi-grown men posting pictures of MTs on the internet makes no sense.   

For one, I did not care if I destroyed the PAD because I just didn't like it, and because I own more MTs than I can ever use.  That is to say, I was prepared to totally destroy the hard wire cutter.  And, its fun to cut a framing nail.  We do this stuff for fun.  Further, it like what "Tim" does on the Military Arms Channel on Youtube.  He dunks a gun in water, dirt, sand and mud, and then sees if it still goes bang.  That's not the intended usage of a firearm, and not really "fair" to the maker, but that's how you see where its failure point is.  You do what's not fair.

Fair or not, its just a data point.  You might remember that I've buried more than one MT in the ground for a year to see if it will rust. 
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=61008.0   Again, that's outside the MTs design parameters, just like cutting a 10-penny nail may be, but this is not about being fair to SOG.  Its about having fun, and maybe learning what your MT can do and what it cannot.  My PAD would cut a big, fat nail in half, but that is something I would never do for real.

[powernoodle]

I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did 

I honestly did, though. I would lie to you about most things  , but not that.  I could not take a pic of the actual cutting because it took two hands to bear down on the PAD.

[gerleatherberman]

powernoodle,

I cannot disagree with your excellently written reply. However, with that said, I should restate my assertion to make more sense.

I should have been clear with my original comment. In essence, regarding the current thread, this particular challenge is about seeing if the PAD can handle routine multitool tasks. Cutting big-smurfin' nails IS fun to try an MT on, but isn't something a majority of us will EVER need to do.

[Wspeed]

Day 11 continued

Here are some close ups of the damage
I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did 

I gotta call ya out on the nail thing, W.
PN shouldn't have done it either. Makes little to no sense.
That is not a fair test to be honest.  SOG doesn't advertise the cutters as "hard nail cutters".
That will not likely be covered under warranty. It is basically abuse.

Edit: For the record, and I emphasize this, I am not cutting hardened nails with my PAD. I don't do it with any other MT, so why ruin my PAD warranty? I urge anyone to NOT void their warranty by cutting hardened nails.

I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limits
I just wanted to test the cutters with the nail
As Powernoodle cut that large nail
After his test I thought it would
be no problem to cut a 2.5 mm nail
I also tested this with my LM Supertool
And no problems or damage

I will say that it’s only a small bit of damage
As I made close up pics to show the damage
I tested the cutters again with the bit of damage
And they still cut everything I used for the test
Just didn’t try a nail again as I now know it’s limit

I am not saying that the cutters are no good
As they work and cut everything I tried and still work
I am more a bit surprised after
Powernoodle cutting that large nail
That my cutters got that bit of damage

But I totally agree don’t try and cut nails with the hard wire cutters

[Dutch_Tooler]

On that last pic GLBM, how solid was the sensation you got from the PAD when tightening the bolt? Haven't tried that yet...

The only thing I wasn't too thrilled about is the slight looseness of the tool inside the socket. But, that is not a problem with the tool, it is just an issue with having 1/2 of a 1/4" driver to do it. 

[Wspeed]

I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did 

I honestly did, though. I would lie to you about most things  , but not that.  I could not take a pic of the actual cutting because it took two hands to bear down on the PAD.

I believe that you cut that nail
I was more surprised that a
2.5mm nail would of been a problem
I didn’t even use a lot of force to cut the nail
This is why I said I don’t know
how you got away with no damage 

[gerleatherberman]

I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limits
I just wanted to test the cutters with the nail
As Powernoodle cut that large nail
After his test I thought it would
be no problem to cut a 2.5 mm nail
I also tested this with my LM Supertool
And no problems or damage

I will say that it’s only a small bit of damage
As I made close up pics to show the damage
I tested the cutters again with the bit of damage
And they still cut everything I used for the test
Just didn’t try a nail again as I now know it’s limit

I am not saying that the cutters are no good
As they work and cut everything I tried and still work
I am more a bit surprised after
Powernoodle cutting that large nail
That my cutters got that bit of damage

But I totally agree don’t try and cut nails with the hard wire cutters

Fair enough. I had misread your point earlier. Apologies for that. Now I understand you were curious as to why someone else did the cut w/o issue and you had slight damage cutting a nail.

I don't know how it will affect the cutters, but if it does affect the performance, there is a solution. A flattened diamond coated needle file works well at fixing the deformation in the cutters. It may at least prevent any "catching" when the jaws close. That is, of course, if an issue with the cutters were to arise.

[Wspeed]

I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limits
I just wanted to test the cutters with the nail
As Powernoodle cut that large nail
After his test I thought it would
be no problem to cut a 2.5 mm nail
I also tested this with my LM Supertool
And no problems or damage

I will say that it’s only a small bit of damage
As I made close up pics to show the damage
I tested the cutters again with the bit of damage
And they still cut everything I used for the test
Just didn’t try a nail again as I now know it’s limit

I am not saying that the cutters are no good
As they work and cut everything I tried and still work
I am more a bit surprised after
Powernoodle cutting that large nail
That my cutters got that bit of damage

But I totally agree don’t try and cut nails with the hard wire cutters

Fair enough. I had misread your point earlier. Apologies for that. Now I understand you were curious as to why someone else did the cut w/o issue and you had slight damage cutting a nail.

I don't know how it will affect the cutters, but if it does affect the performance, there is a solution. A flattened diamond coated needle file works well at fixing the deformation in the cutters. It may at least prevent any "catching" when the jaws close. That is, of course, if an issue with the cutters were to arise.

Thanks GLBM 
The cutters still work perfectly
I haven’t had any problems with cutting 

[gerleatherberman]

Glad the damage didn't have any negative effects, W!

So how are you all doing with your checklists?

I have the can opener, cap lifter, plain blade carve/food/rope/eyc, ruler, and final task left.

[Wspeed]

The list is going well got about 10 tasks left
Going to test the can opener tomorrow 

[gerleatherberman]

The list is going well got about 10 tasks left
Going to test the can opener tomorrow 

I did some research and found a few canned products with small circumferences. Just got to go buy them.

[Dutch_Tooler]

I'm pretty well along on my list too

Haven't done the tasks with the can opener, the second ones with the bit grip and driver, the large, small and eyeglass screwdrivers, the wire cutting and the ruler yet, the rest is checked off.

[Dutch_Tooler]

Day 11 - continued

Decided to check some more tasks off the list. In sequence:

Had a cable with a cigarette lighter plug with a blown fuse. Used the appropriate bit in the plier grip to open the plug.

While I was at it, I decided to test the wire cutter on some chicken wire I had lying around, no damage to the cutters, then to bend it at a pretty sharp angle, where the compound leverage helped a lot. (Pics are swapped around, sorry...)

In the last pic I cheated by using the medium Phillips bit via a bit driver extender on the adaptor and bit diver stub to fit a maglite clamp. The 90° position is great and the amount of torque you can bring to bear is a pleasant surprise.

[Wspeed]

The list is going well got about 10 tasks left
Going to test the can opener tomorrow 

I did some research and found a few canned products with small circumferences. Just got to go buy them.

I found some old style cans today
Bought 3 cans 2 normal size and 1 large size
And will open all 3 tomorrow and use
the contents of the tins for pudding 

[Nix]

You guys are well ahead of me........ 

But I'll catch up!

 

[Nix]

Day 06:

Used the PAD's medium driver (cap lifter) to remove and replace a light switch cover with a solid cover. No issues with the driver for this light-duty task.





For the checklist, I used the serrated blade to cut through some webbing. This webbing is 5cm wide--according to the PAD's ruler--and is doubled over. The serrated blade cut this fairly easily, but I had a bit of a tearing impression. I cut it a few times just to test it out. The width of the material makes this a bit of a difficult task, but I think the SOG did well here. I have the impression that the serrated blade would make a good emergency rescue tool for getting out of a seat-belt or harness.

[Nix]

I'm going to be doing some car camping up in Glacier National Park and/or northern Montana over the next couple of day. So, I may be a bit tardy posting up my required photos for the next few days.

But, rest assured, the PAD is going along and will continue to serve as my primary tool (Vic Classic is back-up). Hopefully I'll have some decent photos to share from the trip. 

[Wspeed]

Sounds fun Nix
Hope you have a good time 

[Nix]

Day 06 (continued):

I'm taking a small daypack on the trip. I decided to attached the SOG sheath to the pack using MOLLE attachment points.

The Blackhawk clips make attaching it quick and simple. And I think a bit more secure than just the one snap. The Blackhawk clips can fail, but I've never seen them do so. I do have some more secure MOLLE attachment clips, but they tend to be a pain to use, so the Blackhawk clips make a good compromise.




You can see the tip of the clip peeking up in this next photo. And you can see how the velcro closure flap on the sheath sits off at an angle when the bit set is also stored in the sheath.

[gerleatherberman]

Looking forward to seeing how the PAD does for you out there, Nix!

[gerleatherberman]

I am not, usually, one to rock the boat. But, curiousoty got the best of me today.

I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch.

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:


Apologies for the video being crappy. I am not a youtube person.

Edit: I think that qualifies as using the file. One more checked off. And I just realized I hadn't used the medium driver yet! Will do that one tomorrow.

[Wspeed]

Nice test GLBM 
I will try that and use the file from the LM Supertool
For comparison and take some pics 

[ThePeacent]

You guys are well ahead of me........ 

But I'll catch up!

 

have a very nice trip! 

Thanks GLBM 
The cutters still work perfectly
I haven’t had any problems with cutting 

not that I didn't tell you, before cutting the nail, that your cuters would probably be damaged like my SOG PL suffered, and I even provided pics of the damage on mine!    which was very similar to what happened in your PAD cutters.

As a side note, I watched some reviews on the PowerPint and it looks like the same problems (semi bad locks with wiggle, horrible scissors as typical from SOG, etc.) that other modern SOGs have are still there, 

but surprisingly the blade on it seemed very good compared to that of the PAD, 
and the file seems to be excellent!!    So it seems that even newer Chinese SOGs can have good, working files and not this pseudo-nail scraping implement    As to why SOG didn't put it in this tool, who knows 

[gerleatherberman]

Nice test GLBM 
I will try that and use the file from the LM Supertool
For comparison and take some pics 

Thank you, W! I look forward to reading your report.

As far as the file on my particular PAD goes, I have had to admit that I stuck my foot in my mouth in public. It is pretty embarrassing. 
It is in no way a "good" or even "mediocre" file, but (at least in my case) it did work.

[Wspeed]

Nice test GLBM 
I will try that and use the file from the LM Supertool
For comparison and take some pics 

Thank you, W! I look forward to reading your report.

As far as the file on my particular PAD goes, I have had to admit that I stuck my foot in my mouth in public. It is pretty embarrassing. 
It is in no way a "good" or even "mediocre" file, but (at least in my case) it did work.

I am really surprised that you got the file to work
And I want to test the file on aluminium
As you tested mild steel and wood with ok results
I will see if I can do the test tomorrow 

[ReamerPunch]

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I am not, usually, one to rock the boat. But, curiousoty got the best of me today.

I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch.

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:


Apologies for the video being crappy. I am not a youtube person.

Edit: I think that qualifies as using the file. One more checked off. And I just realized I hadn't used the medium driver yet! Will do that one tomorrow.

Thanks for taking the time to record and upload these. 

[RF52]

Great challenge and pics guys And good idea with the checklist

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[gerleatherberman]

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I am not, usually, one to rock the boat. But, curiousoty got the best of me today.

I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch.

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:


Apologies for the video being crappy. I am not a youtube person.

Edit: I think that qualifies as using the file. One more checked off. And I just realized I hadn't used the medium driver yet! Will do that one tomorrow.

Thanks for taking the time to record and upload these. 

I am really surprised that you got the file to work
And I want to test the file on aluminium
As you tested mild steel and wood with ok results
I will see if I can do the test tomorrow 

I look forward to reading about your experience with SOG-filing aluminum. Primarily, because it clogs(for my lack of a better term) even the best files in short order.

Whatever the results, please don't file them away.

[gerleatherberman]

Great challenge and pics guys And good idea with the checklist

Thank you, RF52!
Nix did a stellar job with creating the checklists. It seems to have made the challenge feel very official-feeling.