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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3900 on: July 22, 2019, 06:11:38 PM
All you need to enter ICC #4 are a couple of shots of your traditional with your sharpening gear, a helpful hint or two, and a picture of the results of a sharpness 'test'. See my example post above. You can do it!  :tu:
I sharpen freehand. All I can say is practise, more practise, and still more practise. It´s taken me years to get it right.
Oh and I´m not entering the ICC but will see if I can do the pics anyway.


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3901 on: July 22, 2019, 06:19:20 PM
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Loewen, lion, that's me ! Gotta have one !
I already have some SimbaTec stuff and a nice damascus Lionsteel. Bonus pic !

Even has a lion stamped on the blade  :tu:
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3902 on: July 22, 2019, 06:21:39 PM
I sharpen freehand. All I can say is practise, more practise, and still more practise. It´s taken me years to get it right.

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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3903 on: July 22, 2019, 06:26:52 PM
Day 22



So i noticed a bit of vertical play a few days ago and thought it was getting worse, not bad for a locker but noticeable, after above picture i thought i better give it a good wash and i'm glad to say all play has now gone, it's now solid as a rock again  :cheers:
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3904 on: July 22, 2019, 06:34:12 PM
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3905 on: July 22, 2019, 06:43:11 PM
ICC #4: The Sharpening Challenge

I currently use a Lansky Controlled Angle Sharpening System with 3 stones.
It sharpened Soddy excellently  :tu:
I like it!

I'm sorry but cannot do the sharpness test any better with one and a bit hand only at the moment  :salute:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3906 on: July 22, 2019, 06:45:54 PM
Day 22
No tasks for the Mini Trapper today.
So here's a beauty shot with its sidekick...


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3907 on: July 22, 2019, 06:46:56 PM
I sharpen freehand. All I can say is practise, more practise, and still more practise. It´s taken me years to get it right.
Oh and I´m not entering the ICC but will see if I can do the pics anyway.
So I´m running into a little problem here. My trapper passes the paper cutting test even before touching it up.

Nevertheless here´s a pic of my stones.

My method:

I sharpen freehand, with stone in hand, and moving the knife towards me either in a straight or circular motion, depending on the state of the blade. I´m using 10 strokes on one side, then 10 on the other, and repeat, with one stroke less, until I reach 1 (actual times may vary). It helps if you´re ambidextrous; if not, stroke the other side with the knife moving away from yourself. Then the process is repeated on the whetstone, with a drop of Buck honing oil. I rarely strop but when I do it´s on the rough side of a leather belt with some toothpaste.
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3908 on: July 22, 2019, 07:06:54 PM
ICC #4  Sharpening challenge

If blades are real dull they get an edge put back with either a whetstone or a small diamond  stone. Then finished on my Lansky Turnbox. If they just need a touch up I'll either use the Lansky or a steel to bring back the edge.

One trick I learned is to use a piece of hardwood to debut the edge. You just draw the blade through the wood a couple of times when you are almost done.
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3909 on: July 22, 2019, 07:08:44 PM
Hmm i need to find my sharpening stone and take few pics while i sharpen my Opinel its feels bit dull on some parts


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3910 on: July 22, 2019, 07:16:29 PM
day 22



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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3912 on: July 22, 2019, 07:36:00 PM
ICC #4  Sharpening challenge

One trick I learned is to useca piece of hardwood to debut the edge. You just draw the blade through the wood a couple of times when you are almost done.

Nice deburring trick  :like:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3913 on: July 22, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
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That's a good one, Steve. Just knock the burr off by lightly running the blade across a bit of clean wood.  :tu:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3914 on: July 22, 2019, 07:53:48 PM
ICC #4, entries to date:

McStitchy
SteveC


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3915 on: July 22, 2019, 07:56:08 PM
And stand by awl you crazy Traditionalists.......

David has informed me that he is putting up a GAW prize for ICC #5.........This one might be fast and furious, so you'll need to pay attention.  :sa:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3916 on: July 22, 2019, 08:01:43 PM
Wim wins  :pok:  :D

Thanks a million David for your generosity and the excitement  :hatsoff:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3917 on: July 22, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3918 on: July 22, 2019, 08:20:28 PM
Heres my ICC#4 pics

I have two diffrent ways to sharpen knives, whetstone is my main way to sharpen knives. First on rough side then on to fine side where I make circular move towards me bout 8 times per side, i really rarely strop knives when i do strop i use leather to do it.


My second sharpening method is faster but not so good, only when i need fast sharpening i use this sharpener, it has ceramic and carbide slots for sharpening.





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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3919 on: July 22, 2019, 08:35:31 PM
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I agree that the "pull through" type sharpeners that use carbide or ceramic cutters in a 'V' shape aren't as effective, but they can be handy!  The difficulty for me is that since I usually freehand sharpen the angle of the carbides is usually different than my angle.  Still, a good technique to know about.  :tu:


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3920 on: July 22, 2019, 08:36:13 PM
And now on to ICC #4: The Sharpening Challenge.

I think most of us have a similar way of sharpening--take bit of metal off the edge to get a new keener edge. But we each have our own techniques and secrets.  ;)

So, to enter this challenge, you must 1) post a photo revealing the secret of your razor edges, and 2) post a photo demonstrating the sharpness of your edges. This photo must clearly demonstrate that your knife is sharp!

For safety's sake, do not attempt a photo of your knife shaving hair. (Although I do test my knives by shaving my limbs, much to Mrs Nix's displeasure.)  My preferred testing method is a clean paper slice. And slicing into a previous slice really demonstrates a knife's sharpness. If I can cut my cut, I feel my knife is sharp enough. Please, also state that you are entering ICC #4 in your post so I know.

ICC #4 will start...right now. A winner, drawn at random from the list of accepted entries, will be chosen on the 27th. This gives you guys a few days to break out the stones and touch up the edge on the traditional you've been using all challenge long. (And given Fuzzy's difficulty with cheese, I suspect that he for one will need to figure out how to sharpen a knife....)

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A challenge needs a prize. For this challenge I'm putting up a NIB Spyderco UK Pen Knife:

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This is a fantastic take on the Traditional slip joint, but conceived in a modern way. This really is a beautifully designed and executed pocket knife. There is a crisp half-stop and the 'walk and talk' is lovely. When the blade is fully deployed, the index finger works to 'lock' the knife open. A nice safety feature when getting aggressive with cutting.

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The steel used in the blade is interesting: CTS BD1N. I don't have any experience with BD1N, but I do like CTS-BD1. The addition of nitrogen (the 'N', here.) is meant to make it a bit harder and more corrosion resistant. This means better edge retention, but you'll need some sharpening skills...... 

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In case my rules have been written in my usual confusing manner, I'm going to use my Day: 22 entry as an example of an entry post:


I usually use wet stones or an Arkansas stone to keep my blades keen. One of the most effective finishing stones I have found is a 'Garnet Stone'. This is a fine stone with small bit of garnet stones in it. As the knife is worked over the stone with a little water, a fine slurry forms, polishing the edge. This stone is a finishing stone. For more serious edge work, I'll start with a 300-1000 grit water stone or diamond stone and go to town on the edge. In this shot there is some residual slurry visible on the edge of the Soddie:

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The damp paper towel is there to keep the stone from slipping around.

Between sharpenings and after each sharpening I use a strop to really clean and polish that edge. I know that over-stropping can dull an edge, but I find that stropping smooths any residual burrs. When shaving with a straight razor, I find that stropping makes a big difference to how the blade feels on my face.

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One last 'secret'. I've posted this photo before, but I'll do so again for this sample entry. Sometimes I find Im having a bit of trouble finding my edge when sharpening freehand. If that's the case, I'll paint my edge and part of the blade with a Sharpie marker. This lets me see where exactly I'm cutting steel. This seems to help me re-orient myself to getting the best angle for a particular knife.

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My sharpness test:

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You can see nice long slices, into other slices. The thin curly slices are a sure sign of sharpness. Success!   :tu:


OK, there's ICC #4 and my Day 22 entry. I hope I, and awl of us, can learn something from each other about sharpening with this little challenge. Even if you don't want to win the UK Pen Knife, please share your sharpening techniques and secrets with the other traditionalists--we have a duty to keep the tradition of a sharp traditional keen!

Nice! I was already planning on soaking the sharpening stones with water soon because the kitchen knives are getting dull  :D, so hopefully i'll have some time before the 27th to enter this challenge, sounds fun!  :cheers: :cheers:

I always sharpen freehand using different sharpening stones in an increasing grit, ending on a grit 5000 Japanese water stone which gets my knives shaving sharp.
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3921 on: July 22, 2019, 08:36:35 PM
ICC #4, entries to date:

McStitchy
SteveC
Antti Lammi


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3922 on: July 22, 2019, 08:48:03 PM
ICC #4

I use a Sharpmaker. I really would like the diamond and extra fine rods but not at the prices they're charging for them to be honest.



Then on to the strop that I made.



To test the sharpness I expect the blade to glide through receipt paper without catching or ripping.



There was a specific injunction not to show shaving pics but after the receipt test I always move on to shaving arm hair. I expect my thin blonde hairs to leap off my arm at the touch of the edge. I can achieve that level of sharpness with the above kit without too much effort if it's a normal steel. If the blade will do that it will glide straight through food packaging without tearing or ripping and that's my real world criteria.  I can do S35VN or lower easily enough with this system if the grind has already been set to the correct angle. Trying to use the regular sharpmaker with dull M390 was an experience I'd prefer not to remember.

My tip? Carry a SAK. It's so quick and easy to do, whatever the system.  :cheers:
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3923 on: July 22, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
...and yeah I know I have to do the fire challenge. Perhaps tomorrow. It won't be anything more exciting than fat wood shavings I'm afraid. Lighting fires in the open here is a big no no at the height of summer.
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3924 on: July 22, 2019, 09:11:18 PM
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I'll catch a plane. What times are ya serving.     :D
Sorry, didn't see your reply. It's all gone now :cheers:

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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3925 on: July 22, 2019, 09:11:45 PM
Day 15 for me

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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3926 on: July 22, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
Nice one Antti  :tu:
How old is your Opinel if I may ask?
My Opinel is about 25-30 years old now, i only know that it was bought early 90s


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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3927 on: July 22, 2019, 09:19:35 PM
ICC #4: The Sharpening Challenge

I currently use a Lansky Controlled Angle Sharpening System with 3 stones.
It sharpened Soddy excellently  :tu:
I like it!

I'm sorry but cannot do the sharpness test any better with one and a bit hand only at the moment  :salute:
I like the Lansky CAS as well for getting a nice, consistent angle. And it makes a sharp edge :like:

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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3928 on: July 22, 2019, 09:21:34 PM
ICC #4:The Charpening Challenge

Forgot my cutting test pic  :facepalm:
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Re: Bustin' out the traditionals, a 30-day challenge
Reply #3929 on: July 22, 2019, 09:23:01 PM
Day 22 - Model 66 Stockman is great carry for my needs.


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