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Any love for Wenger?

it Offline basilio

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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1290 on: September 09, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1291 on: September 09, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).

They were at least sold in Japan, as I get a lot of hits on Japanese sites and Amazon.co.jp if I google "wenger 19230". I agree we should come to a consensus of how to call them before creating the pages. Footballeur sounds good to me, maybe with a side reference "also known as Soccer"

We'd need to change the existing Soccer page title then too to Footballeur 32.






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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1292 on: September 09, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).

They were at least sold in Japan, as I get a lot of hits on Japanese sites and Amazon.co.jp if I google "wenger 19230". I agree we should come to a consensus of how to call them before creating the pages. Footballeur sounds good to me, maybe with a side reference "also known as Soccer"

We'd need to change the existing Soccer page title then too to Footballeur 32.

I have the impression the smaller model ( 1 92 32) was probably the only one sold in North America, so the name "soccer" could be correct (and even "official") for that one.
However, should be confirmed the two other models were never imported in North America, the footballer (or in french "footballeur") name could have much more sense.
I don't see the reason Wenger wanted to use the word "soccer" for a knife sold in a market outside USA.
So yes, perhaps the best solution could be to use both words, like "Soccer/Footballer" or "Soccer /Footballeur".
« Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 10:02:04 PM by basilio »


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1293 on: September 09, 2013, 10:12:57 PM
I like using the footballer name, and soccer can be a see reference and a note in the main description about Canada and Usa naming.

Separate pages; these are very different and taking about knives when more than on configure on a page is very confusing.  It's easy to link the pages and it can be done in more than 1 place if needed like right in the main description with some text. We can look at it again in the future when we have it more complete as it will no longer be expanding.

Can't use soccer series or footballer series as these are not official they have sports series Swiss rider series and other official ones. Can word the descption and just say a series of knives.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1294 on: September 09, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
I like using the footballer name, and soccer can be a see reference and a note in the main description about Canada and Usa naming.

Separate pages; these are very different and taking about knives when more than on configure on a page is very confusing.  It's easy to link the pages and it can be done in more than 1 place if needed like right in the main description with some text. We can look at it again in the future when we have it more complete as it will no longer be expanding.

Agreed. :cheers:

Can't use soccer series or footballer series as these are not official they have sports series Swiss rider series and other official ones. Can word the descption and just say a series of knives.

:think:

It says Footballeur série (Footballer series) right there on the page I posted from the 1992-1995 dealer information, page 31. :shrug:



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Reply #1295 on: September 09, 2013, 11:09:45 PM
OK I read that differently.  I'll investigate more.

It's easier to have something concreate to refer to so I modified the 85mm alpha listing and renamed the Soccer page. 

UPDATE: Went with the English spelling

Take a Look, that's the general idea. 

UPDATE: Used a Series Heading although, not crazy about it for 3 basic knives.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 11:49:36 PM by ICanFixThat »


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1296 on: September 10, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
Francis, looks good.
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To help everyone understand the different Product Lines and each series for a single product line,
I'm sharing few pages that I use for myself.
In each page the name on top near the Wenger logo is the product line. The single names listed below with the numbers are the series.
These pages were part of the original 1995 catalog I posted a while back, but I came in possesion of them later.
They are basically the catalog index, and were supposed to be replaced by the dealers as soon as more products were added.
Sorry, but some of them have the names added by me.
Also since some pages are missing, some had been "created" by me for self reference.
I double checked all my edits and they seems correct.
However, if you find any error just let me know.
I'm in the process of re-uploading the whole catalog as the pages order is not correct, plus I found few more pages.
Also some series which came out later are missing, like the "Max" and probably others.
Images link
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Wenger_catalog_index?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIWj1YCY2_t4&feat=directlink

Preview of a page attached
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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1297 on: September 10, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Looks good i think this does help show the big picture.  The manual entries can be edited out of the images and replaced with new type font ones maybe in a different color to show they are additions.

I think though an interactive page like this that links to the catalog pages would be nice.

I have a new NA 92-95 catalog i will try to scan and send you. Maybe you can help pin point the date better, but us releases don't always correspond with swiss releases, although with wenger they seem much closer than with vic.

If existing dates i have are accurate then it would be 92/93, but could be later.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1298 on: September 10, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
Looks good i think this does help show the big picture.  The manual entries can be edited out of the images and replaced with new type font ones maybe in a different color to show they are additions.

I think though an interactive page like this that links to the catalog pages would be nice.

I have a new NA 92-95 catalog i will try to scan and send you. Maybe you can help pin point the date better, but us releases don't always correspond with swiss releases, although with wenger they seem much closer than with vic.

If existing dates i have are accurate then it would be 92/93, but could be later.

Yes, sure would love to see your catalog.
I don't have the skills to edit the fonts of the index.
I have, however, a copy of the pages without my notes, should someone wanted to try.
Unfortunately, I can't do anything about the quality of the scans, as they were given to me in this condition.


I double checked all my edits and they seems correct.


Found an error, already.  :ahhh
Completely forgot about the catalog page I saw on EDCSource about the Tactile series.
So, the Product Line 1.5 "Fantaisie" should go on with:
1.5.6  unknown
1.5.7  unknown
1.5.8  Tactile
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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1299 on: September 10, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
Added a SwissGrip catalog page to the wiki.




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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1300 on: September 11, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
Nice! Thanks. Made me dig out my Swissgrip.
I never had the Bit adaptor - any chance anybody has a spare?!  ::)


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Reply #1301 on: September 11, 2013, 09:44:39 AM


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1302 on: September 12, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
My black Wenger terrain belt came today! I'm allergic to nickel which is in most belt buckles but this buckle is stainless steel. I think it is a great belt and will wear it for years.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1303 on: September 16, 2013, 12:57:02 AM
New wood scales for an EVO 14 limited edition designed with more of the French side of Swiss Army knives. Cool Wenger Shield design inside of the "O". The small letters are Suisse inside of the bar at top of knife.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/wenger-wood-evo-14-jura-loriginal.html


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Reply #1304 on: September 16, 2013, 02:45:47 AM
Wenger certainly received some love from me today. I carried a Wenger mountaineer, had a Wenger wallet on me, wore a Wenger belt, and ordered a Wenger water bottle. I just can't pass up anything that says Wenger. :D


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1305 on: September 16, 2013, 06:16:19 AM
Wenger certainly received some love from me today. I carried a Wenger mountaineer, had a Wenger wallet on me, wore a Wenger belt, and ordered a Wenger water bottle. I just can't pass up anything that says Wenger. :D

I bet you had the Giant hidden in there somewhere :rofl:
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Reply #1306 on: September 16, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
New wood scales for an EVO 14 limited edition designed with more of the French side of Swiss Army knives. Cool Wenger Shield design inside of the "O". The small letters are Suisse inside of the bar at top of knife.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/wenger-wood-evo-14-jura-loriginal.html
(Image removed from quote.)

Nice!
I believe, however, that the shield designed inside the "O" is not the Wenger logo.
It is just the logo of "Jura l'original suisse", which basically promotes many brands from the Jura canton.
http://www.jura.ch/Carrousel/Jura-l-original-suisse.html


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1307 on: September 19, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
SM5000, I like that 14  :tu:

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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1308 on: September 19, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Wenger's United Woods Serie flyer.... in german

http://swissknives.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/United-Woods.pdf


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1309 on: September 19, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
United Woods Series looks amazing but £400 is out of my budget. Will they sell singles?


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1310 on: September 22, 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Why is a Wenger Minathor 702 so expensive? Anyone owns one?
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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1311 on: September 22, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
I don´t know which version and or price you have in mind, but:

The Minathor is a collaboration of Wenger an Bergeon, one of teh best renowned Watch-Tool making companies in switzerland.

Their tools are not cheap and they packed a bunch of tehm into this Wenger - apart from that, there are some Wenger tools only used on taht knife, so they are produced in small numbers and add to the price.

The Minathor is quite a capable watchmaking tool.
I bought one as a present to myself, as I like to tinker with watches, too and it merges the 2 Hobbies nicely.

I guess there are more expensive Multis with less real funcionality.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1312 on: September 22, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Wenger's United Woods Serie flyer.... in german

http://swissknives.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/United-Woods.pdf
The last paragraph of the flyer is a touching epigraph for Wenger.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1313 on: September 22, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Why is a Wenger Minathor 702 so expensive? Anyone owns one?
The 700 series (Club Series) comes with octagonal scales of steel with leather inserts, leather pouch, & presentation box.


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1314 on: September 24, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
I just spotted this on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-1-77-86-822-RangerGrip-Series-Knives-Swiss-Army-Folding-Knife-/281161619184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417689d6f0
The RangerGrip 86 is extremely difficult (I would say impossible) to find outside Russia


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Reply #1315 on: September 24, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
SAW


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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1316 on: September 26, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
I just got an evogrip s18












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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1317 on: September 27, 2013, 05:25:08 AM
I just got an evogrip s18


I've been looking at that one for a while. I just read your comments about the locking mechanism in another thread. It's making me think twice about getting one.
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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1318 on: September 27, 2013, 05:36:59 AM
Yeah, I see that the lock button does stick out even when the knife is closed.  I'm not sure I'd like it sticking out like that.  It seems like it could get caught on something or get in the way somehow :think:
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Re: Any love for wenger?
Reply #1319 on: September 27, 2013, 05:48:23 AM
I just traded off my red evo 18. I am going to try replace it with a evo s16 .

I like the lock.
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