Has anyone ever had problems with the police about their mt / knife

[anditsgone]

It is every knife / mt user's worst dream, get body searched by cops in an area where you are not allowed to carry a knife.
Has anyone ever been held up by the police or security because of your knife or mt?
Like you run in to the police and you are body searched by them and they see you carry an mt or knife?

In the netherlands you are allowed to carry a knife, but not in public. Of course my day goes like almost every one's routine. From an private location to public location to private location. My knife rides in my pocket all day so it spends a lot of time in areas where it is not allowed.
I have never been held up by the police but if i would run in to a bad cop i think i will have a bad time+knife gone+ huge fine.

[dks]

We do have a Dutch policewoman as a member, I think. She may be able to help you with information.

[anon]

Once I was searched and a knife was found on my person by a cop when I was in a place where having weapons was prohibited by law. Things snowballed from there and lead to police finding other illegal weapons I had. I probably would have went to prison had I not been a minor and first time offender.

Nowadays I try to avoid carry knives altogether. If I want to use one I try to keep it at my workplace and have kept a Wenger SAK in a locker years ago and now I keep a Swisstool in my toolbox in a garage near where I work. Guns are ok to have here if openly carried or concealed with a permit but knives on the other hand lead to all sorts of trouble especially if its a lock blade with a longer blade. Someone told me its at officer's discretion to do anything about a knife but I've been through trouble before and it just put me off of carrying them.

[captain spaulding]

Never had that problem. I will not be searched unless I have committed a crime and since I do not break the law I will not be searched. Simple as that.

Back in my younger days I have been searched more than I like to admit, but the one and only time a police officer took any interest in the knife I was carrying was because he wanted to trade me his knife for mine.

[ctstannard]

Based on my experience I find they key is never to call it anything but a tool. So far that has worked here in Canada.

Officer - Why do you carry this knife?
Citizen - It's a weapon for personal protection.
-- WRONG ANSWER this will get you in trouble...

Officer - Why do you carry this knife?
Citizen - It's my everyday tool.
-- No need to elaborate but if they ask it is for "everyday tasks" opening packages etc.

I haven't ever heard of anyone who answered like that and who was being cooperative that got into any major trouble. Granted if you have already done something wrong that is probably when having a knife is going to go poorly for you. Heck I even carried a leatherman on me during my years in University, the whole time I only had one Teaching Assistant bark at me "IS THAT A KNIFE?!" and I just replied "Nope just a tool" and that was the end of that.

Granted each country, region, town, building etc is VERY different so what works for me might not work for you but I find it can't hurt to always politely emphasize that it is a TOOL.

[MadPlumbarian]

I got pulled over while walking with my older son to his doc appt, all because I was wearing a camo military coat and was with my son. Their had been break ins with the same description. So as he yelled I kept walking cause I didn't hear him with my hood up, my son had to tug on my sleeve to let me know, so I turned around and walked to him, saying yes officer, he got out of his car and walked to me asking for my ID, so I said I have a pocket knif and I have to reach for my wallet. He said it was ok, and didn't give me a problem, we had to wait for his comp in the car to work, but all was fine, and then he asked if we needed a ride to the docs office, I said no, it's right there, we were like right out front..

Another time back when I carried an arm, I got pulled over for idk what, but back when I could drive. When he walked up to the window and I rolled it down he asked before I could say anything, for my ID, and I said I have a piece on my hip, he said ty, for telling me and to remove it with two fingers, so I did, all while he had his hand on his holster. Then told me to put it on the dash and asked me if I have a license to carry which I did, so he looked at that with my drivers license, and I think he just handed them back and for complying with him I think he just let me go with nothing, I might have had a break light out other then that I didn't have anything with knives or arms, at least of that I can remember..
JR

[kirk13]

Funny enough....

I was talking to one of our temps last week. He was rather impressed that I was using a 'proper knife' to cut up boxes(it was my Okapi biltong knife,just for the record),
He then noticed I have an EDC

He then told me about the police confiscating his LM Wingman.

Now,before we go any further,he didn't say what the circumstances were,what he was doing,what neighbourhood he's from,or what he'd said to the cop...

I also pointed out that technically,the Wingman is illegal to carry,and he kinda went 

[Zephon]

I guess this is one of the reasons why I'm just carrying a Micra (and a Signature, lately...and thinking of getting an Executive or a Manager...wait wrong thread).  I've been stopped by security in a mall and brought to the office for carrying a friggin Spartan SAK!  I was about 16 then and good thing that we had a school activity which warranted my bringing a SAK.

I usually avoid the hassle involved with it but these days, but I have to admit that if you're "corporate looking", even if you buzz on the mall's detector or wand, security would just let you through.  Ironically, a Forester has been a good EDC for me lately, though I do follow the rules like in government buildings and such.

[captain spaulding]

I guess this is one of the reasons why I'm just carrying a Micra (and a Signature, lately...and thinking of getting an Executive or a Manager...wait wrong thread).  I've been stopped by security in a mall and brought to the office for carrying a friggin Spartan SAK!  I was about 16 then and good thing that we had a school activity which warranted my bringing a SAK.

I usually avoid the hassle involved with it but these days, but I have to admit that if you're "corporate looking", even if you buzz on the mall's detector or wand, security would just let you through.  Ironically, a Forester has been a good EDC for me lately, though I do follow the rules like in government buildings and such.

  You have to get searched to go to the mall?

[SAK Guy]

No I haven't.

[gregozedobe]

No, but I've never done anything to let the police think I needed to be searched (being searched is uncommon in Australia anyway, unless you hang around the "wrong" places or people).  My most common interaction these days is to have a breath test while I'm driving, and they usually ask to see my licence while they are testing me (no, I don't drive strangely, it's just that random breath tests are frequent in the city where I live).

I think being polite, helpful and non-threatening to any police you come across will greatly improve your chances of not being hassled.  Let's face it, their job can sometimes be very difficult, so if you are easy to deal with they are almost always going to let you go on you way with minimal fuss.

Mind you, even if I was searched, I doubt they will find my tiny little LM Squirt PS4 is very scary 

[Zephon]

I guess this is one of the reasons why I'm just carrying a Micra (and a Signature, lately...and thinking of getting an Executive or a Manager...wait wrong thread).  I've been stopped by security in a mall and brought to the office for carrying a friggin Spartan SAK!  I was about 16 then and good thing that we had a school activity which warranted my bringing a SAK.

I usually avoid the hassle involved with it but these days, but I have to admit that if you're "corporate looking", even if you buzz on the mall's detector or wand, security would just let you through.  Ironically, a Forester has been a good EDC for me lately, though I do follow the rules like in government buildings and such.

  You have to get searched to go to the mall?

It's fairly common here in the Philippines.  There's that buzzing thing at the door when you enter and there's a guard with a table where you open your bags while he takes a split second wave with his buzzing wand.  I personally think it's more of a deterrent than anything else. 

Case in point: last week I carried a Swisstool and Spirit in the bag kept in pouches away from the main opening and they didn't seem to mind.  I'm sure a wand would have picked that up.  There's also an upscale mall nearby where they do a front pocket and waist frisk (male guard for males, female for female) but like what I said, it's more of a deterrent than anything.  Their gloved hands just do a sweep and that's it.

...and if you're packing, just show them the C&C permit and the weapon and you're good.  There's even a mall where you can deposit your firearm and get a claim tag for it (it's near the army GQH to be fair).

[jerseydevil]

 New Jersey is surprisingly easy on what's legal to carry.  No autos or butterflies, keep it under a 4" blade, and good to go as long as you don't do anything stupid.  I carry a PM2 all the time with no problems, and a friend has carried his Buck 110 on his hip for 30 years now.

[anon]

New Jersey is surprisingly easy on what's legal to carry.  No autos or butterflies, keep it under a 4" blade, and good to go as long as you don't do anything stupid.  I carry a PM2 all the time with no problems, and a friend has carried his Buck 110 on his hip for 30 years now.

Shame their gun laws suck.

[Lynn LeFey]

I think Illinois and Missouri knife laws are about the same as what JD is reporting.

In any event, I've never been stopped and searched. I don't think I come across as all that menacing.

I think those of you who've seen pics get the idea.

"Oh no! She's waddling toward us... very... slowly..." 

Looking some things up: In Illinois, you can't have ballistic or auto opening knives, or throwing stars (really?). Otherwise, all good.

And in Missouri, you can own pretty much anything but a switchblade. And if you have only one arm, you can own a switchblade under 3".

[SAK Guy]

Texas carry, no blade length over 5.5 inches, no double edged, no gravity knives, Autos ok, no Bowie knives.

[gregpost]

Too many knife laws in The United States are vague, one could almost say purposely so.

[captain spaulding]

Too many knife laws in The United States are vague, one could almost say purposely so.

In my state they are pretty well defined. Not sure about others.

[Chako]

No issues here at all.

[hiraethus]

No problems with our 'draconian'* knife laws here.  But I'm a careful and conscientious white guy in his late 30's, who doesn't go to the pub, living in a small village that has one part-time police officer.

*

[aerojet]

My experience -

So i was out photographing trains, and the train has just past, and i was packing up my gear to move to another location when the LEO rolls up behind me and lights up. "NOW what?" I thought .. so this young gent comes up to me and asks for my paper work. The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

My experience shows that if you take it easy, don't act nervous, and are up front with Mr. LEO, the thing will go down well. He did not ask about knives or anything else.

Your CCW class should have taught you how to handle stops or contacts with Mr. LEO -- If you look like JOE ordinary, and act cool and collected and don't do anything stupid you should be okay.

Just my 2 cents worth ...

Just a side note, this is the same beat cop who seems to patrol this area where i usually photograph trains - LAST weekend he passes me with a wave and a smile. He knows now who i am and the fact that it is a pretty good guess that I am carrying.

[SAK Guy]

My experience -

So i was out photographing trains, and the train has just past, and i was packing up my gear to move to another location when the LEO rolls up behind me and lights up. "NOW what?" I thought .. so this young gent comes up to me and asks for my paper work. The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

My experience shows that if you take it easy, don't act nervous, and are up front with Mr. LEO, the thing will go down well. He did not ask about knives or anything else.

Your CCW class should have taught you how to handle stops or contacts with Mr. LEO -- If you look like JOE ordinary, and act cool and collected and don't do anything stupid you should be okay.

Just my 2 cents worth ...

Just a side note, this is the same beat cop who seems to patrol this area where i usually photograph trains - LAST weekend he passes me with a wave and a smile. He knows now who i am and the fact that it is a pretty good guess that I am carrying.

The reason he checked you out (and you probably already know this) is the DHS directive about people photographing infrastructure. Since 9/11, anybody paying undue attention to anything considered critical infrastructure is subject to being checked. Hell, one directive years ago said to suspect people wearing blue jeans, with binoculars, maps and notepads in their cars as potential terrorists....more potential birdwatchers were probably checked out than anyone else.   

[Gerhard Gerber]

The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

Don't go anywhere near there.

TBH, that sounds too much like a threat.
I guess it gets up my nose because I do not like, respect or indeed expect very much from our Police force.....even if its probably one of the better examples in Africa.

Just a question - does CCW not require that the weapon be on your person and under your control at all times?

I was recently patted down by a bouncer, Skeletool in my pocket.
Realized it too late and figured I'd go put it in the car if they squealed.......turns out the Fire Stash clipped onto the Skeletool confused his fingers completely 

[shark_za]

Once the pistol is legally explained the knife or multitool blade become irrelevant.


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[captain spaulding]

The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

Don't go anywhere near there.

TBH, that sounds too much like a threat.
I guess it gets up my nose because I do not like, respect or indeed expect very much from our Police force.....even if its probably one of the better examples in Africa.

Just a question - does CCW not require that the weapon be on your person and under your control at all times?

I was recently patted down by a bouncer, Skeletool in my pocket.
Realized it too late and figured I'd go put it in the car if they squealed.......turns out the Fire Stash clipped onto the Skeletool confused his fingers completely 

You can leave the firearm in your car if you like.

[Etherealicer]

The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

Don't go anywhere near there.

TBH, that sounds too much like a threat.
I guess it gets up my nose because I do not like, respect or indeed expect very much from our Police force.....even if its probably one of the better examples in Africa.

Just a question - does CCW not require that the weapon be on your person and under your control at all times?

I was recently patted down by a bouncer, Skeletool in my pocket.
Realized it too late and figured I'd go put it in the car if they squealed.......turns out the Fire Stash clipped onto the Skeletool confused his fingers completely 

You can leave the firearm in your car if you like.

That makes more sense. Am I correct to believe that there are certain places where you are not allowed to take your gun like bars (because of the alcohol) and of course government buildings. So, you are forced to leave your gun behind in your car.

[ducttapetech]

The first thing I said to him was - "I have a CCW and I am carrying, how do you want to proceed?"

He asked where it was. I told him and he said - "Don't go anywhere near there." Okay I can do that -- pulled my wallet, produced my CCW and license, and my paper work packet - registration and insurance card - and he went into his cruiser for a bit. Came back in about 10 minutes and said -- "Have a nice day! Just be careful out there."

Don't go anywhere near there.

TBH, that sounds too much like a threat.
I guess it gets up my nose because I do not like, respect or indeed expect very much from our Police force.....even if its probably one of the better examples in Africa.

Just a question - does CCW not require that the weapon be on your person and under your control at all times?

I was recently patted down by a bouncer, Skeletool in my pocket.
Realized it too late and figured I'd go put it in the car if they squealed.......turns out the Fire Stash clipped onto the Skeletool confused his fingers completely 

You can leave the firearm in your car if you like.

That makes more sense. Am I correct to believe that there are certain places where you are not allowed to take your gun like bars (because of the alcohol) and of course government buildings. So, you are forced to leave your gun behind in your car.

Correct. Some places you cannot carry your firearm and you can leave it in your vehicle.

That's us mobile.
Nate

[Lynn LeFey]

That makes more sense. Am I correct to believe that there are certain places where you are not allowed to take your gun like bars (because of the alcohol) and of course government buildings. So, you are forced to leave your gun behind in your car.

This is essentially correct.

Although, any business can post signs saying no firearms allowed. If you disobey those signs in Missouri, you can be politely asked to leave. If you do it multiple times, they can have law enforcement escort you off the premises.  If you disobey them in Illinois, you are stripped of your right to carry concealed, and may face jail time. BIG difference depending on what side of the Mississippi I'm on. Not that I'd intentionally carry into a business that prohibited it.

You also can't carry into public events, and a few other restricted areas. Then there are some weird 'you can't carry in pubic events, unless you're just passing through them...' kind of oddities. In Illinois, you can also carry a firearm unloaded, but with a loaded magazine in a 'separate container' in your vehicle, in which case it's not concealed carry but 'transporting'.

The laws are... uhh... 'confusing', and vary state to state.

[NG VI]

Actually never, not once, with a single exception.

 When I was a kid and bought my first knife, my silly little brother told my parents I 'pulled it on him', rather than that I showed it to him.

Police talked about it as though I was grilling him about my girlfriend while pointing a gun at him.

Otherwise only  a few loser rentacops have ever given me a hard time, and usually over a Victorinox, sometimes the 58mm on my keyring at a specific terrible nightclub here.

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[NG VI]

I'm sorry, if you can't have your knife in public what do you mean you are 'allowed' to carry a knife?

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