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The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!

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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #330 on: August 22, 2016, 03:48:56 PM
Traditional Challenge Days 5&6

#31SAB Case Swell End Jack Knife, 1976 w/CV saber & pen blades & Delrin scales.

When working around the property like it did over the weekend, I like to carry a heavy-duty plier multi and knife combo.  This large Case jack fit the bill!!  The saber blade is thick and heavy, and there's something about the CV on all the Case knives I've had from this era that it keeps a WICKED sharp edge.  It cut a good quantity of sisal rope and cardboard, and just took a bit of stropping to bring it right back.

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I like that one, looks like a good working combo!
May it be as the Pattern has chosen.


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #331 on: August 22, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
Thanks.  I like that little Swayback as well!  I have the Case/TB Swayback jack that I frequently carry in my watch pocket that will show up on here sooner than later.
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #332 on: August 22, 2016, 04:01:54 PM
Traditional Challenge Days 5&6

#31SAB Case Swell End Jack Knife, 1976 w/CV saber & pen blades & Delrin scales.

When working around the property like I did over the weekend, I like to carry a heavy-duty plier multi and knife combo.  This big Case jack fit the bill!!  The saber blade is thick and heavy, and there's something about the CV on all the Case knives I've had from this era that it keeps a WICKED sharp edge.  It cut a good quantity of sisal rope and cardboard, and just took a bit of stropping to bring it right back.

I like that pattern  :drool:


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Reply #333 on: August 22, 2016, 04:03:41 PM
I like seeing the Mercator's that's one I haven't seen before. It's always nice to see something new.
Day 6
Today it's an Old Timer 80T, I bought some time back in the 80's. This is the last 1095 I bought as a user knife.
Last time I used it was on a pheasant hunt, the temperature was in the 20's & I came in from the cold & sat it down someplace. I think it moisture condensed on it & spotted the blade. I'm still sick about that. It's a good ole knife walk & talk is good & the springs are reasonably flat.


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #334 on: August 22, 2016, 04:05:14 PM
I like that pattern  :drool:

Yeah, you know when I bought that one I thought, "This is probably something I will never use.  It's too large and impractical for my uses". 

How wrong I was.  ;) :D

I'm going to have to find myself an Old Timer--those and Old Henries just bring back so many memories of my childhood.  You mention the spots--I've experience that as well, and that is why I tend to put a "forced" patina on any new carbon-blade knife that I know I will carry frequently.
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Reply #335 on: August 22, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
I don't need one, I don't need one, I don't need one, I don't need one, I don't need one, I don't need one,  :rofl:


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Reply #336 on: August 22, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
I like that pattern  :drool:

I'm going to have to find myself an Old Timer--those and Old Henries just bring back so many memories of my childhood.  You mention the spots--I've experience that as well, and that is why I tend to put a "forced" patina on any new carbon-blade knife that I know I will carry frequently.


I never established a taste for patina, so every time I stropped or sharpened I'd polish a bit if needed.
I switched to stainless after that knife.


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #337 on: August 22, 2016, 04:24:06 PM
Can get the new old timer and uncle henry down here (China made) ; worth looking at or a waste of time?
 


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Reply #338 on: August 22, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
Traditional Challenge Day 7

I'm back to my favorite #66 GEC Stockman today.

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Reply #339 on: August 22, 2016, 04:29:19 PM
Can get the new old timer and uncle henry down here (China made) ; worth looking at or a waste of time?

IMO, if you can't get an older US-made one, I think your money is better spent elsewhere.  That might just be nostalgia talking, though...  I've honestly not had experience with the China-produced ones.
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #340 on: August 22, 2016, 04:31:38 PM
Some Chinese knives are pretty bad, but I think they are getting better. The traditional patterns are definitely better than the plastic handled Spyderco copies that have come out of China for the last 30 years or so, for example, and there are several Bucks and Schrades that come from China these days.  This one is a Frost Uncle Lucky.  A $10.00 equivalent to the any of the Schrades or Rough Riders.  Probably made in the same factories.
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #341 on: August 22, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Awesome carries guys!!!!!  Some really beautiful patterns and scale choices!!! :cheers:

Soddie Jr and S16 today.  Overcast and rainy outside.....
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #342 on: August 22, 2016, 05:29:49 PM
I like seeing the Mercator's that's one I haven't seen before. It's always nice to see something new.
Day 6
Today it's an Old Timer 80T, I bought some time back in the 80's. This is the last 1095 I bought as a user knife.
Last time I used it was on a pheasant hunt, the temperature was in the 20's & I came in from the cold & sat it down someplace. I think it moisture condensed on it & spotted the blade. I'm still sick about that. It's a good ole knife walk & talk is good & the springs are reasonably flat.

Hard to beat!!!! My Dad's favorite for 50+ years!!!!  :cheers:
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #343 on: August 22, 2016, 05:44:29 PM
Can get the new old timer and uncle henry down here (China made) ; worth looking at or a waste of time?

IMO, if you can't get an older US-made one, I think your money is better spent elsewhere.  That might just be nostalgia talking, though...  I've honestly not had experience with the China-produced ones.

In the last 4-5 years of my Dad's life, after he had lost another Shrade Walden, we both tried the Taylor Schrade 8OT's. These were some of the very first ones over here and the quality was fine for a EDC/work knife. Not near the fit and finish of a USA Schrade (or that awesome 1095)  but not bad. I didn't care much for the stainless blades (I'm old fashioned on Old Timers) but they kept an edge ok, similar to some Case SS I've had. Dad said they were just fine and carried his everyday.

I bought him a yellow one for Christmas 3 years ago and it approached the overall F&F of a a Schrade 881Y...it was a nicer knife than I expected for a Taylor. 

I have no experience with the newer ones but I just read that Smith and Wesson bought Taylor so that may bring some changes to the Schrade line.....
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #344 on: August 22, 2016, 05:59:02 PM
Some very fine stuff being carried today so far :cheers:


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #345 on: August 22, 2016, 06:06:19 PM
Can get the new old timer and uncle henry down here (China made) ; worth looking at or a waste of time?

A lot of old smurfs won't look at Taylor Brands since they bought out Old Timer but I don't blame Taylor Brands for that. It was poor management on the part of Taylor/Schrade that caused them to go bankrupt. Taylor just came along after the fact and bought the rights to the name, design and patterns.
The same can be said for Camillus.

Having said that the current Old Taylor brand knives aren't copies of the old knives. They are different so Taylor Brands isn't trying to duplicate the old models. Stainless steel only.
The new Taylor Brand has thinner blades than the old & long match strike pulls.

There were some early QC issues but I believe those have been worked out now.
Uncle Henry maybe, maybe not, don't know I have never seen one. But Old Timer line should be a good knife, it is supposed to be Taylor Brands high end line.
The Old Timer 80TB has 9Cr18MoV steel and bone handles, it's there high end knife.
The Old Timer 80T has 7Cr17 steel and synthetic handles I believe there's a wood model as well.

9Cr18MoV is the Chinese equivalent to 440C.
7Cr17 is the Chinese equivalent to 440A, which would put it a small step above 420HC.


In the picture the Taylor Brand 80TB is on the right and bottom.



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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #346 on: August 22, 2016, 06:20:33 PM
Yes, that is two very different designs.  There's not much comparison...
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #347 on: August 22, 2016, 06:43:03 PM
A portuguese navaja-inspired small folder from ICEL. The Tube is for size reference.

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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #348 on: August 22, 2016, 07:24:59 PM
Day 7

GEC #79 Montana Workhorse Whittler in Jobillo wood. Absolutely beautiful knife, the walk and talk is just about perfect. The big blade I've found extremely useful for spreading things on bread, while the other two blades are large enough so as not to be relegated only to jobs where a tiny blade is needed. Deserves to be carried more than it is. More expensive than my average knife, which is why it has spent most of its life in a drawer, but that's no way to live, is it?

May it be as the Pattern has chosen.


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #349 on: August 22, 2016, 07:34:05 PM
Day um...Monday?

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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #350 on: August 22, 2016, 07:44:08 PM
Day 7

GEC #79 Montana Workhorse Whittler in Jobillo wood. Absolutely beautiful knife, the walk and talk is just about perfect. The big blade I've found extremely useful for spreading things on bread, while the other two blades are large enough so as not to be relegated only to jobs where a tiny blade is needed. Deserves to be carried more than it is. More expensive than my average knife, which is why it has spent most of its life in a drawer, but that's no way to live, is it?

Cruel and unusual punishment for such a fine knife.
Give it to me & I'll make sure it has other knives to play with and gets out weekly for fresh air & to cut things.   ::)


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #351 on: August 22, 2016, 08:18:07 PM
A portuguese navaja-inspired small folder from ICEL. The Tube is for size reference.

Nice little lockblade.  :cheers: :cheers:
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Reply #352 on: August 22, 2016, 08:32:29 PM
Day 7

GEC #79 Montana Workhorse Whittler in Jobillo wood.

Not exactly something I would "whittle" with, but :drool:
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #353 on: August 22, 2016, 08:37:47 PM
Day 7

GEC #79 Montana Workhorse Whittler in Jobillo wood. Absolutely beautiful knife, the walk and talk is just about perfect. The big blade I've found extremely useful for spreading things on bread, while the other two blades are large enough so as not to be relegated only to jobs where a tiny blade is needed. Deserves to be carried more than it is. More expensive than my average knife, which is why it has spent most of its life in a drawer, but that's no way to live, is it?

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That's very nice!!!!   :cheers:
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #354 on: August 22, 2016, 08:41:58 PM
Traditional Challenge Day 7

I'm back to my favorite #66 GEC Stockman today.

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Again!!!!  Very nice!!!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #355 on: August 22, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
Day um...Monday?



Slim and sublime John!!!!!!  :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #356 on: August 22, 2016, 09:07:23 PM
Day um...Monday?



Slim and sublime John!!!!!!  :cheers: :cheers:

Cheers Robert,the 379 is a surprising good cutter for it's size!
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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #357 on: August 22, 2016, 09:53:01 PM
I have to go with what is available locally.
New Buck traditionals are made in China from 420J2; 3Cr and the like are just too soft for me, less than 420HC is just no go.

7Cr can get a little harder and there are Old Timer and Uncle Henry models I can try.

I could also get a Joseph Rodgers or two....



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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #358 on: August 22, 2016, 10:14:09 PM
I have to go with what is available locally.
New Buck traditionals are made in China from 420J2; 3Cr and the like are just too soft for me, less than 420HC is just no go.

7Cr can get a little harder and there are Old Timer and Uncle Henry models I can try.

I could also get a Joseph Rodgers or two....

Buck has a line of their cheaper knives made in China but most are still made in the U.S.

The U.S. knives may not be available to you locally but it is still their main line.


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Re: The 30 Day "Traditional" Challenge!
Reply #359 on: August 22, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Here's a Schrade USA 881Y vs an older Taylor Senior 8OTY

Schrade is at the top


Pretty close copy (if they weren't side by side) and the Taylor doesn't have China anywhere on it except the box.
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