Will the removable bit driver fit on the P series Phillips shank?
Of course not, that way they can sell a new one Not that LM is alone in that. Other companies (not only MT related) do the same smurf.I had not heard before that LM is attacking their own MT to promote sale of the P series. Someone has a link?Not sure what the reasoning behind that is. Doesn’t make sense in my mind to thumb your own product. Especially sine it is still on the market! If i did not know the wave my thinking would be: “Ok, so you are telling me the Wave sucks, but you want me to buy your new product that costs almost 50% more, in the hopes that you got it right this time?”
I don't know if attacking is as far as they went. They more so said that the P series is the best MT out there, and the implication is that the Wave isn't as good. Most of the agitation over the promotion came in the form of the huge-biceps tatto-guy saying "you see someone with the grey sheath, you know he has the best multitool out there" and variations of the statement.And he didn't say it once, twice, or three times. He said it almost every time he was being recorded.My personal opinion is that the Wave is a superior EDC tool to the P series. And that the P series is superior in fidget-fun flippy-dippy poppy-doppy skipp-pippy action. That leaves the P series in a different subset of MT users(though, because of the toolset the subsets can overlap). Moderate users who want a 'side-piece' to show off and play with, that would still be useful in daily life. Kind of like a butterfly knife, but for MT guys.
Ok, thanks for clarification
Timmy L must have slipped some Rohypnol in my drink, because when I woke up this morning I discoverer that I had ordered a P4 from the Leatherman website.
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can't wait to hear what you think PN
Translation, they know and hoped not a lot of owners would complain . They had to have known .
Passion makes great members. Perceptions, well..... we all have them and so I like to remember that we all come here to discuss these wonderful tools called Multitools. Moving forward and continuing forward I am happy these tools are in the hands of you passionate members. I am happy that LM for all our sake has decided to show us that they can produce a quality tool regardless if it is for everyone. Heck we all know there is no perfect tool unless its a modded one I love a lively discussion even to the extent of one side getting ruffled, so long as both sides respect each other. I believe this continues to be very true within these pages of discussion. I cannot wait for you GLBM to test the living smurf out of these tools. It serves all of us, LM included. Breaking it or damaging it however wont tell the whole story. We've seen tools break. I just want to see the limits to which the tool can be pushed. Yeah a little sadistic
So...out of curiosity I emailed Leatherman about the tools popping out when you cut hard wire or snap the pliers open too hard. They said, “It’s a normal function of the tool.”
Considering the time spent on this tool, I can think a number of solutions off the top of my head that might fix this.
If someone gets injured from that, they need their license to use tools revoked. IMOThe cutting blades don't pop out and couldn't if they wanted.Tried to see if I could hurt myself doing that in several different ways, but haven't been able to. Not saying it is ok that the drivers play peekaboo, just saying it probably isn't a serious problem. Most likely why they put a flat driver tip on the awl, since that would have been the only poking culprit. The opener/flat edge, and awl/driver edge face inwards to the handles, so the likelyhood of cutting oneself that way would be virtually impossible, unless someone intentionally set it up.
We live in an age where cups of coffee have to warn the person who ordered it that the contents may be hot, and bags of peanuts say "Warning: Contains nuts". Even among tool enthusiasts, there are people who consider non-locking blades to be unsafe. No matter how foolproof you make something, there's always a higher calibre of idiot waiting just around the corner, but with this, they didn't even try. Making tools that accidentally deploy this easily, is not acceptable for a tool maker today, no matter how you try and window dress it.
The flat on each tool is the same size as the magnet. I don't think removing any metal would help. The gap between the tool and the magnet is tiny. Just enough to ensure the magnet doesn't get slammed into the tool upon closing. I don't know if the magnets inside are the highest strength or not, but one easy mod would be to replace them with maximum strength N52 class magnets.
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